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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 07:53 AM
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Putting Brembo's on

Has anyone ever put the Acura Brembo from a manual 04-06 TL on an Automatic. I know the Type S auto has them. Just curious.
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 07:54 AM
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Search man, search. I've seen plenty of threads on it. From what I remember, it's not really that easy.

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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 02:52 PM
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I'm sure at least one person has. Is that your only question or are you looking into details of it?
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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so why we automatic get no love for the brembo and get cheap rotos brake with ugly calibers?
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by eduardmc
so why we automatic get no love for the brembo and get cheap rotos brake with ugly calibers?
We get MORE love (maybe out of necessity) than the Brembo guys. Search around and you'll see.
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by eduardmc
so why we automatic get no love for the brembo and get cheap rotos brake with ugly calibers?
believe it or not, back in the early days after the 3g TL was released, there was much more aftermarket support for auto brakes compared for us brembo guys...i remember this very well when i searched for rotors and pads for my car...it wasn't until later when some companies started releasing pads and then rotors came after... if i remember correctly, EBC was the first to have available pads for our brembo calipes..

now on the subject, i think you're better off going with an aftermarkt BBK then try get factory brembos, since its much more involved to do so, and by the end, you'll end up with the same cost.

im sure guys that have already done this will chime in
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 10:32 PM
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The Brembo conversion is in the 3G Service Dept formerly known as the Garage.
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Opel
believe it or not, back in the early days after the 3g TL was released, there was much more aftermarket support for auto brakes compared for us brembo guys...i remember this very well when i searched for rotors and pads for my car...it wasn't until later when some companies started releasing pads and then rotors came after... if i remember correctly, EBC was the first to have available pads for our brembo calipes..

now on the subject, i think you're better off going with an aftermarkt BBK then try get factory brembos, since its much more involved to do so, and by the end, you'll end up with the same cost.

im sure guys that have already done this will chime in
I'm one of them, just trying not to repeat myself twice in the same week lol.

It's cheaper and easier to do an aftermarket BBK than to go with the factory Brembo conversion. Instead of the 12.2" Brembo rotors you get 12.6-13" depending on which kit you get.

The Brembos are perfectly fine for 99% of the drivers out there but if you're going to spend the money, why not go with the better brakes when they're cheaper.

I found my 13" 4 piston drilled and slotted Rotoras for $800 used in the BM.

There are no larger brake kits offered for the 6mt cars that I know of. Part of the reason is likely they don't need it as badly as the auto cars.
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 10:40 PM
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I'm one of them, just trying not to repeat myself twice in the same week lol.

It's cheaper and easier to do an aftermarket BBK than to go with the factory Brembo conversion. Instead of the 12.2" Brembo rotors you get 12.6-13" depending on which kit you get.

The Brembos are perfectly fine for 99% of the drivers out there but if you're going to spend the money, why not go with the better brakes when they're cheaper.

I found my 13" 4 piston drilled and slotted Rotoras for $800 used in the BM.

There are no larger brake kits offered for the 6mt cars that I know of. Part of the reason is likely they don't need it as badly as the auto cars.
Twice in a week isnt that bad, sometimes i do it everyday lol...

and you're absolutely right, its cheaper and better, and u get a bit of a bigger rotor too...if i didnt have brembos i would've went the aftermarket BBK route myself, without hesitation or thinking twice about factory brembos.

In the mean time, i'm gonna be working on something for the rear. I will let you in that once i know
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 10:59 PM
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Don't forget you can also just get the RL calipers just need the bracket made. A lot cheaper than going TL oem brembo, the part list for this seems endless.
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by acura_dipset_tl
Don't forget you can also just get the RL calipers just need the bracket made. A lot cheaper than going TL oem brembo, the part list for this seems endless.
thats true, but the same applies to the TL brembo caliper, or other calipers. With a bracket made, you can pretty much use the stock TL Brembo calipers.
A custom bracket is what you need, just like for the RL caliper. Whatever the price of the RL calipers, plus pads, and rotors (those pads need a bigger rotor surface than the rotors on the auto TL) plus 2 custom brackets, its still going to run up there, to where you can get a used BBK like IHC said.

You can pretty much retrofit anything in there, as long as room is available (rim size)
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Opel
thats true, but the same applies to the TL brembo caliper, or other calipers. With a bracket made, you can pretty much use the stock TL Brembo calipers.
A custom bracket is what you need, just like for the RL caliper. Whatever the price of the RL calipers, plus pads, and rotors (those pads need a bigger rotor surface than the rotors on the auto TL) plus 2 custom brackets, its still going to run up there, to where you can get a used BBK like IHC said.

You can pretty much retrofit anything in there, as long as room is available (rim size)
Sorry, I did forget to mention rotors and pads.

BTW I also thought you needed the knuckles along with other parts to do the oem brembo conversion. https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/d-103-tl-s-brembo-swap-parts-list-716463/
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by acura_dipset_tl
Sorry, I did forget to mention rotors and pads.

BTW I also thought you needed the knuckles along with other parts to do the oem brembo conversion. https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=716463
Knuckle *should* not be necessary with the correct adaptor bracket.
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by I hate cars
Knuckle *should* not be necessary with the correct adaptor bracket.
Wow, good to know I've always though all those parts in the link above were needed to do the swap.

Has anybody's done the brembo swap using the adaptor bracket?
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by acura_dipset_tl
Wow, good to know I've always though all those parts in the link above were needed to do the swap.

Has anybody's done the brembo swap using the adaptor bracket?
I may be wrong but I think the purpose of the knuckle was to locate the Brembo caliper in the right spot so the adaptor should eliminate the need. AFAIK there have been no Brembo caliper adaptors made but I may be wrong. There's always the chance that there flat out is not enough room to do the adaptor and keep the 5at knuckle.
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by acura_dipset_tl
Sorry, I did forget to mention rotors and pads.

BTW I also thought you needed the knuckles along with other parts to do the oem brembo conversion. https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=716463
yes that's correct...doing the stock brembo conversion, you will need the knuckles...this is where the bracket comes in, enabling the caliper to be mounted on the knuckle of the auto TL if you wanted, say the RL calipers, or a diff caliper...like IHC said, you don't need knuckles if you can fab a bracket, and that applies to the oem brembo calipers as well.
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by I hate cars
I may be wrong but I think the purpose of the knuckle was to locate the Brembo caliper in the right spot so the adaptor should eliminate the need. AFAIK there have been no Brembo caliper adaptors made but I may be wrong. There's always the chance that there flat out is not enough room to do the adaptor and keep the 5at knuckle.
that's kind of what I thought, because if not why would all those people that have done the conversion not just got a braket made instead of going the hard route?

From my understanding you can do an rl calipers conversion for around $600 or less depending on how cheap you can get the calipers for. Calipers go for $150-$300, the bracket can be made for around $120, and you can use Nissan 350z brembo rotors that go for $180-$200, pads I think sell for $80-$100 (not sure too much about the pads just an estimate).
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by acura_dipset_tl
that's kind of what I thought, because if not why would all those people that have done the conversion not just got a braket made instead of going the hard route?

From my understanding you can do an rl calipers conversion for around $600 or less depending on how cheap you can get the calipers for. Calipers go for $150-$300, the bracket can be made for around $120, and you can use Nissan 350z brembo rotors that go for $180-$200, pads I think sell for $80-$100 (not sure too much about the pads just an estimate).
Usually when parts are available, its a convenience and most people don't think of fabricating anything, when things can be as simple as a SWAP.

I agree with IHC, its possible that there's not enough room for a bracket to sit between the auto knuckle and where the brembo caliper has to sit...but also a way accomplish this could be with a bigger rotor, which means the caliper would have to sit farther away from the knuckle, which means it would create more space for a bracket.

again, i haven't tried. just speculations based on my visualizations of that part of the car for the 1349549947445555 times i've been behind the front wheels lol
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 01:19 AM
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The reason why RL calipers are popular is because they're radially mounted, so basically any sized rotor 12.5" and greater could fit them by simply adding washer/spacers to the. mounting studs. I currently have 12.6", but easily have enough thread left to do 13" in the future. If I get longer bracket studs, I may be able to do 14" without redesigning the bracket.

I remember seeing some photos of the brembo knuckle vs the non-brembo knuckles. The brembo knuckles are more recessed than the non-brembo ones, so it'd be easy to create a bracket for brembo to non-brembo, but not vise versa. I could be wrong but from the pictures I saw, this appeared to be the case so new knuckles are required.
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 09:14 PM
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All those talk about the front conversion about the front brakes, what about our small ugly wimpy and weak rear rotor or caliper in our tl?
Sh*t, I'm still trying to figure it out how to get the custom bracket from the rear caliper from the evoX or the 350z to the tl
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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by cokorote
All those talk about the front conversion about the front brakes, what about our small ugly wimpy and weak rear rotor or caliper in our tl?
Sh*t, I'm still trying to figure it out how to get the custom bracket from the rear caliper from the evoX or the 350z to the tl
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/rear-brake-modification-789931/

This is what I'm still interested in as well. Our best bet would be the Rotora kit at $1400 shipped currently or Stoptech kit.

Last edited by binhsterbinh; Sep 8, 2010 at 12:22 AM.
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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 07:57 AM
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Has anyone ever put the Acura Brembo from a manual 04-06 TL on an Automatic. I know the Type S auto has them. Just curious.
I did this a lil over a yr ago. Got both 100% complete knuckles/brembos from an 07 type s w/12k miles for $600. Did the work myself, paid $60 for an alignment.
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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Sandals
Has anyone ever put the Acura Brembo from a manual 04-06 TL on an Automatic. I know the Type S auto has them. Just curious.
I have a friend who purchase the brembo rotors and calipers and brake lines and pads for his conversion. I dont think he is going to have time for the conversion and he might be selling all the set up. let me know if you interested and i could give you his contact info.
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