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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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I know this is technically a problems & fixes, but WTF am I gonna do now? the socket rounded off this nut on the front cat, and then I destroyed it further with vice grips, etc. Help!!!

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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SRT-11
I know this is technically a problems & fixes, but WTF am I gonna do now? the socket rounded off this nut on the front cat, and then I destroyed it further with vice grips, etc. Help!!!


Try slamming a smaller socket on it or got to sears and pick up a set of extractor sockets. I would avoid using 12pt sockets for the rest of them.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 07:52 PM
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how the hell did you do that? atleast it isn't the rear....

don't stress it... it could be worse..
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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spray some wd40 from above the nut
then vise grips and try to tighten the nut slightly- maybe a tap or 3 with the hammer to the tool, that will usually break the rust bond - then you can spin it off and replace
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Richie v6
Try slamming a smaller socket on it or got to sears and pick up a set of extractor sockets. I would avoid using 12pt sockets for the rest of them.
X2 on the extractor sockets!!
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 09:47 PM
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yeh I'll be hittin up sears after church tomorrow, xtractor socket FTW. lame. Richie, you're right no more 12 pointers on that soft ass metal. it's like metal butter, but I guess hard metal would become brittle with all that temperature change.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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I do Not mean to rub salt into any wounds...

I offer the following to all readers as a friendly reminder.

Never use a 12-point socket. Always use 6-point sockets. The 12-point sockets should had never been invented. The 12 point does not offer enough gripping surface on the bolt/nut. Whereas, the 6 point is great. I have NEVER stripped the head of a bolt or nut with a 6 point. However, I have snapped entire bolts with the 6 point.... but that is a testimony to the awesome grip of the 6 point. Never use a 12 point. I don't even own any of those worthless things. All of my sockets are 6 points.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
spray some wd40 from above the nut
then vise grips and try to tighten the nut slightly- maybe a tap or 3 with the hammer to the tool, that will usually break the rust bond - then you can spin it off and replace
Or Deep Creep

One of the most useful substances in the world!
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Inaccurate
I do Not mean to rub salt into any wounds...

I offer the following to all readers as a friendly reminder.

Never use a 12-point socket. Always use 6-point sockets. The 12-point sockets should had never been invented. The 12 point does not offer enough gripping surface on the bolt/nut. Whereas, the 6 point is great. I have NEVER stripped the head of a bolt or nut with a 6 point. However, I have snapped entire bolts with the 6 point.... but that is a testimony to the awesome grip of the 6 point. Never use a 12 point. I don't even own any of those worthless things. All of my sockets are 6 points.

AMEN. thats great advice

SRT-11 soak that puppy in some wd40 and give it another shot. it should come loose
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 10:54 PM
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Go to Sears or find a Snap on truck and buy a socket for stripped bolts/nuts. Find one the same size as the nut or one slightly smaller if you really rounded the nut and hammer it on. Then put your ratchet on it and take it off by hand. It should come off just fine then.
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 12:59 AM
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I will point out that 12 point sockets are designed for use with 12 point bolt heads...
as found on most airplanes--- that way they make sure to use the special hi grade bolts- they all have 12 point heads.

So they are not worthless- you have the wrong tool for the job!!
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 01:28 AM
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12 points' automotive use should be limited to tight spaces where you have very little room to move the wrench or 12 point bolts. Otherwise 6 point should be exclusively used.

I was a transmission R&R guy from the age of 17 to 21 and speed was extremely important. Stripping a bolt (especially Ford torque convertor bolts) would sometimes double the time requried to R&R. In my experience, WD-40 and other liquids don't help until the bolt starts turning. Then they will help lube it for the rest of the way. I've never seen it penetrate into threads but it helps the wrench/vice grips to slip on the nut even more.

Your problem isn't that big. You have plenty of room to get a small cutoff wheel in there on the nut if you have to.
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 12:00 PM
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Try heating it up with a torch.... alot. Then get out those trusty vice grips. Heat makes the nut expand.
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 12:48 PM
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got it, the sears kit worked like a champ. I'll just put 3 nuts back on and get the 4th tomorrow at the honda dealer.
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 01:08 PM
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got it, the sears kit worked like a champ. I'll just put 3 nuts back on and get the 4th tomorrow at the honda dealer.
Make sure to use antisieze on the threads when you reinstall and you won't have this problem again.

On a side note, I guess us Cali people are somewhat lucky. I was wondering how you got so much rust on your exhaust but I guess that's normal in other places.
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 04:40 PM
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yyikes.... good luck on that...
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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so they're in, but i'm not sure if I have an exhaust leak somewhere or not, what does an exhaust leak sound like? also I stripped out the threads for one of the bolts that holds the rubber mount for the j-pipe hanger, it's on with one bolt right now, how the heck am I going to remedy that?
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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so they're in, but i'm not sure if I have an exhaust leak somewhere or not, what does an exhaust leak sound like? also I stripped out the threads for one of the bolts that holds the rubber mount for the j-pipe hanger, it's on with one bolt right now, how the heck am I going to remedy that?
Well, you are missing a nut on the exhaust, so that is probably your leak. An exhaust leak sounds like a very wet fart!
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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I used a nut temporarily, I'll swing by the honda dealer tomorrow and snag a new nut
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SRT-11
also I stripped out the threads for one of the bolts that holds the rubber mount for the j-pipe hanger, it's on with one bolt right now, how the heck am I going to remedy that?
get this bolt from the dealer aswell...
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 08:13 AM
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right, but I didn't strip the bolt, I stripped the threads on the frame that the bolt bolts into. not sure how I'm going to fix that, should I drill through that member of the frame and run a long bolt all the way through it and put a nut on the other end?
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 08:29 AM
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No couldn't you just go to ur local hardware store and find a bolt slightly larger and drill that in there?

Why did you remove that bracket anyway? Sooo not part of my instructions.. Dw40 would have made the rubber hanger a quick uninstall
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
I will point out that 12 point sockets are designed for use with 12 point bolt heads...
as found on most airplanes--- that way they make sure to use the special hi grade bolts- they all have 12 point heads.

So they are not worthless- you have the wrong tool for the job!!
They are also used on 97-99 Ford F-150, F-150 light dutys on the front drive axles! I know, I had to change mine. The 12pt worked great!
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 10:50 AM
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They are also used on 97-99 Ford F-150, F-150 light dutys on the front drive axles! I know, I had to change mine. The 12pt worked great!
They were on pretty much every Ford truck including Explorers and Rangers. There was even a special Snap-on 12pt impact tool just for these. I broke many chrome 12pt sockets until I finally bought this tool back when I did transmissions.
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by stillhere153
No couldn't you just go to ur local hardware store and find a bolt slightly larger and drill that in there?

Why did you remove that bracket anyway? Sooo not part of my instructions.. Dw40 would have made the rubber hanger a quick uninstall
it would have taken like another half hour otherwise cuz I couldn't move my catback out of the way enough to get the j pipe off the hanger.
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by stillhere153
No couldn't you just go to ur local hardware store and find a bolt slightly larger and drill that in there?

Why did you remove that bracket anyway? Sooo not part of my instructions.. Dw40 would have made the rubber hanger a quick uninstall
it would have taken like another half hour otherwise cuz I couldn't move my catback out of the way enough to get the j pipe off the hanger.
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