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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 10:57 PM
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looking to upgrade brakes....

I'm thinking to go with Stoptech Rotors... but cant decide if i should go with drilled only or drilled slotted. I'm looking for good performance and also what would look best. Can you recommend me some good pads that will not make more dust then OEM or equal... I have a 2005 TL AT
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 12:23 AM
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drilled/slotted
hawk pads
motul brake fluid
stainless steel brake lines
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 12:28 AM
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For looks, you want to go with drilled/slotted. For performance, you want to go with just slotted.

RacingBrake is my favorite, and get their pads to match the rotors, as well.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 12:29 AM
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I wouldn't waste your time with the hawk pads.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by princelybug
For looks, you want to go with drilled/slotted. For performance, you want to go with just slotted.

RacingBrake is my favorite, and get their pads to match the rotors, as well.

^^ That's what I'd say too.

I don't think Racing Brake makes a Drilled & Slotted though. And those definetly look the best and can improve performance over blanks. I n which case Rotora or StopTech.

I've run StopTech with Racing Brake ET Series pads .... good combo.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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I am in the same boat as the OP. You mind sharing the info on your setup? ie, part numbers with descriptions, where to purchase..etc. thank you very much!

Originally Posted by Bearcat94
^^ That's what I'd say too.

I don't think Racing Brake makes a Drilled & Slotted though. And those definetly look the best and can improve performance over blanks. I n which case Rotora or StopTech.

I've run StopTech with Racing Brake ET Series pads .... good combo.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 11:44 AM
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Also, would changing an aftermarket brake system affect the ABS and VSA sensors? I spoke to the dealership, and apparently that those modules are different between the AT base model and the MT sport/dynamic model (which has the brembo setup).


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I am in the same boat as the OP. You mind sharing the info on your setup? ie, part numbers with descriptions, where to purchase..etc. thank you very much!
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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I am in the same boat as the OP. You mind sharing the info on your setup? ie, part numbers with descriptions, where to purchase..etc. thank you very much!

I don't have the AT that the OP, and I assume you, have, so part numbers would not do any good.


I ran on the 2007 TL-S fronts:

- StopTech OE Replacement 1-piece slotted Rotors
- Racing Brake ET500 Pads

Also had SS Brake Lines & Amsoil DOT3 Fluid.



On the '02 TL-S (which is VERY similar to the '04 - '08 base AT), I have:

- Racing Brake UP 1-piece slotted Front Rotors
- StopTech OE Repalcement 1-piece slotted Rear Rotors
- Racing Brake ET500 Pads all around
- SS Brake lines


Both are excellent combinations. After break-in and several hundred miles of street use, they "stop like crazy". Lower dust (not no dust), no noise.

Got both from Marcus (Mr. HeelToe) at www.heeltoeauto.com and could not be happier. Josh at Excelerate Performance also sells StopTech as well as Rotora which have a slotted or drilled/slotted offering.

Call or PM these vendors. They will hook you up with the right product for your applicaiton and driving style.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by c2pid
Also, would changing an aftermarket brake system affect the ABS and VSA sensors? I spoke to the dealership, and apparently that those modules are different between the AT base model and the MT sport/dynamic model (which has the brembo setup).

I don't see how. Those systems rely on wheel speed measurements and differentials. Regardless of the brake rotors/pads you are running, you're either in lock up or not in lock up and ABS will act accordingly. ymmv.

Some one with a better technical understanding may offer more insight. I just don't see the logic in the dealer statement.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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In the majority of brake upgrade threads people recommend ss brake lines. What is the benefit of these? and, for a daily driver that's not raced or taken to the track, how much of a brake upgrade is overkill or just for looks?

I have about 26k on my original brakes and rotors with no signs of decreased performance, I don't brake hard very often. Manual tranny could have something to do with that. I haven't actually measured the pads but will take a look when I do the next tire rotation. I don't feel like I need a real "upgrade" over stock when the time comes but will likely go with a slotted rotor with some new pads. I know the rears don't need to be changed at the same time but do most people get new rear rotors when changing the fronts from stock to slotted or slotted and drilled?

Also, what's the correct way to measure the pad thickness?

Thanks guys!
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jweb12
In the majority of brake upgrade threads people recommend ss brake lines. What is the benefit of these? and, for a daily driver that's not raced or taken to the track, how much of a brake upgrade is overkill or just for looks?

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Stock lines are rubber. You press the peddle and part of the effort goes into expanding the rubber brake line. As the fluid and parts get hot, the rubber is able to expand even further, so even more of your effort is lost.

SS lines do not expand - whether hot or cold - so the lost braking effort from rubber lines is applied to the brake piston(s).

In a daily driver there is slight improvement to brake feel, but little (if any) performance gain. Back-road/mountain/canyon runs - yes; track - yes. I think of them as a part of the overall brake sytem upgrade.

Otherwise, on the daily commute, more show. And they DO look good.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 01:33 PM
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Great explaination Bearcat. Thanks. May look into this when it comes time, depending on cost. But, it doesn't sound like I "need" them.....of course I don't "need" a lot of things that I put on/in the car
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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Thanks Bearcat! Much appreciated.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jweb12
In the majority of brake upgrade threads people recommend ss brake lines. What is the benefit of these? and, for a daily driver that's not raced or taken to the track, how much of a brake upgrade is overkill or just for looks?

I have about 26k on my original brakes and rotors with no signs of decreased performance, I don't brake hard very often. Manual tranny could have something to do with that. I haven't actually measured the pads but will take a look when I do the next tire rotation. I don't feel like I need a real "upgrade" over stock when the time comes but will likely go with a slotted rotor with some new pads. I know the rears don't need to be changed at the same time but do most people get new rear rotors when changing the fronts from stock to slotted or slotted and drilled?

Also, what's the correct way to measure the pad thickness?

Thanks guys!
Any input on these? Probably basic knowledge for most but this is the first vehicle I'm investing more time into learning more than just the basic maintenance with. And, for measuring the pads, I assume they can be measured without taking them out? In the past I focused on modifications and had shops do the other maintenance, trying to change that......means more money for mods afterall!
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
I don't see how. Those systems rely on wheel speed measurements and differentials. Regardless of the brake rotors/pads you are running, you're either in lock up or not in lock up and ABS will act accordingly. ymmv.

Some one with a better technical understanding may offer more insight. I just don't see the logic in the dealer statement.
I checked with heeltoeauto.com and he is selling the willwood kit 4piston for $ 777 shipped to NJ. its Special introductory price on this new kit! 12.76 inch 4 piston kit featuring the Wilwood Superlite Forged calipers. This kit will include the calipers, 1 piece slotted/dimpled rotors, Hawk HPS pads, mounting brackets and braided steel brake lines.

Im not sure on the pads as many people said they didnt like them as they were squeeky. Its something i definitely wanna avoid...
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 09:18 AM
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Which brand has both the slotted and drilled rotors. I can't seem to find any
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 09:34 AM
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was wondering... will stock oem pads work with aftermarket cross drilled/slotted rotors?

or would it be better to uprgrade to Type-S brake pads... cuz i kind of want the black acura caliper too xP
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 12:55 PM
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Which brand has both the slotted and drilled rotors. I can't seem to find any
Rotora rotors come both drilled and slotted. I just installed mine and they look great, I got them from Excelerate a vendor here.

I have the H2 pads which are ceramic and seem to work pretty well, I chose a pad made to work with the rotors.
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 01:52 AM
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Which brand has both the slotted and drilled rotors. I can't seem to find any
ROTORA offers them. See our web store at http://store.excelerateperformance.com

Originally Posted by MobTownTL
was wondering... will stock oem pads work with aftermarket cross drilled/slotted rotors?
Yes they will.
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 04:23 AM
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Anyone have any info on the Nuespeed rotors for an '08 types s?

I have an '08 type s. Who makes the best rotor & pad upgrade?
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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Go with EBC Sport Rotors and EBC Red Stuff Pads. Real nice... and $272 shipped from AutoAnything.com. I installed them this morning:

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Old May 17, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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looks nice, good job on the set up! how long did it take you?
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Old May 18, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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When braking, I heard that slotted rotors makes a slight humming sound. Is this correct?
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 04:45 PM
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Acura brake recommendations wanted

I have an 08 TL s type with manual tranny, 25K miles. I am toild I need new front brakes and rotors. The dealer recommended that I buy power slot brake rotors and hawk pads, adn he would install them. any thoughs are appreciated. BTW. I can't seem to find power slot front brake rotors for this car?


thanks
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Old Aug 16, 2009 | 02:37 PM
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I have the cryo power slot and hawk pads on my F-250 superduty, worth every penny! Don't know if they make them 4 the TL?
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