DC Sports with their dry flow filter. It made a bigger difference in my 1/4 than my j-pipe did and you can get it for 120 shipped at ultrarev.

 

Whaaaa? No way. Lol

 

WOW really ???

did you have pnp-d manifold/runners/TB before you got the CAI ???

 

Nope, my pnp is a work in progress. My runners are almost sanded to perfection but I have to wait a few days for the blisters on the tips of my fingers to heal so I can make another run at them. I will eventually getting my spare TB maxbored and my upper manifold extrusion honed.

 

I don't even see that as being debatable. I had a 5AT loaner for a week and let's just say it's no SMG or DCT in the shifting department.

And Swoosh, what are you running for wheels? I thought you had some heavy 19's. While it's true the effect of the rears won't show on the dyno, the drive wheels will and that could cost you 3-5 whp. I'm gonna come in conservative and guess mid 250's SAE. That's a big jump in itself from the 205-210 stock whp for intake/full exhaust/induction mods. Look at Sonnick's car; his Accord is ~220 bone stock and now he's sitting at 256 SAE with full bolt ons. Granted, he doesn't have the runners ported or the 3.7 manifold/TB on yet, but that's still relatively unchartered territory, so who knows. I just don't want to see you set yourself up for disappointment. For the weight of your car, 250 is still pretty stout, and I'm sure with the ecu and cams you can see 300.

It would take 30-35 whp to see a .37 improvement and then another 15 whp or so to compensate for the 25 degrees hotter air with 60' times being equal. Either that intake is worth its weight in gold or you improved your 60' times. I'm guessing the latter!

 

I can't say what I would've put down stock on that dyno, but I've seen 210-215 for stock 6MTs. Not sure if SAE or not. If I had to guess, I'd assume I gained more than 35whp total from my mods, but then again I can't be sure. I only say this because I gained ~15whp/tq from upgrading to a 3" exhaust, custom Jpipe, merge collector, and UR pulley. And that's over an already larger than stock exhaust/jpipe. Regardless, I'd be happy with 35whp gains untuned with basic bolt ons lol.

I'll say this as well. At this point since my knowledge has increased, I'm not so sure my ported manifold is helping me. Considering the ports should be larger than stock, that would mean there is a lip when the manifold meets the runners. This would cause turbulence and a power loss. I'm speculating because I really thought I gained, but it's possible.

Going in conservative is always better, but I'd like to see him push 265!

 

in for some numbers!!!

 

swoosh, drivetrain loss ends up being a function of the 'ramp down' speed of the rollers vs the rollers with no car attached, basically. (this is a terrible explanation but I've been out of it all week)

 

^So essentially you're saying in either an AT or MT car, if you put it in neutral after the pull is done your numbers will read differently because the drivetrain loss is calculated by the "ramp down" (deceleration) of the rollers?

 

yes! even car to car. like, 6mt to 6mt TL's, it would calculate your exact losses for YOUR car. which is pretty cool. but its also why you can expect to see 1-2% range brackets of drivetrain losses floating around, since each person can expect a different result (plus, dyno types, etc)

 

yeah it can get tough....you know/can you post the port diameters ?

i know Andy was running 320-330-ish with cams/ECU/tune...hence I thought 265-270 without ECU and ~290's with a good tune....but i complete agree with your point of view...if i get 250's i will be disappointed....

am running 18" wheels...the wheel tire setup weighs 47-48lbs a corner....which is heavy but not super heavy....but yeah i guess it will show up a tad bit on the dyno....



me too LOL....waiting on my ECU.....

damn that is great info.....i will do that as well and post it up

 

this can happen when you uses the brakes on a dyno after a run. Skip to 4:32

http://youtu.be/OzFGUUR1UDI?t=4m32s

 

I thought you had super heavy 19's, Swoosh. 47-48 lbs/corner is right around OEM weight, so you're good there.

 

fuck it....am getting runs with them running the dyno and my car !!!

no sir....my weighing machine plays tricks on me....i have gotten 46 on the scale and 50 for the same wheel/tire ebay weighing scale FTMFL !!!

and hence i said 47-48 lbs....but yeah they are around there.....the rims are 22-23lbs and the tires are 25-26lb....

 

Did you ever dyno?

 

no sir....there was something which was always coming in the way....

there is a dyno day next month and couple of us might head up there...but i will just get 3 runs and should be done....will not be able to "rent" the dyno for an hour or so

 

 

^^^ sorry mang....but i have been putting this off...totally my mistake...

 

^why do you want to rent the dyno!!?!??!?!

do three runs!
then if cheap enough, do another three runs with diff. variables this time.

 

i wanted to do some runs in different gears....so do like 3 runs in 3rd and 3 runs in 4th...something like that....

also wanted to do the same 3rd and 4th gear runs with the different variables....

but i might just getting 2 sets of 3 runs as i just have 1-2 different variables to try out now....

 

meh. 3rd gear for you

and 4th gear for me.


why would you want to run it in different gears!?!?!??!?!?!?!?
and yes, just do 2 sets of 3 runs.

 

^^^ well the reason why i wanted to run in different gears was because (before the weight loss) the 4th gear had not enough power....it wudnt pull if I was ~25mph in 4th gear....so i just wanted to see what AFR/timing its running it and what can be done to improve performance through those gears.....

also couple iterations I have is SRI/CAI...MDX spacer ON/OFF....Intake manifold butterfly on/deleted....

am not sure how any of this will matter once I plug the ECU in and have Andy send me a msq file....