So i will be heading to the dyno within the next 2 weeks....

instead of just paying for 2-3 runs am thinking of taking 30 minutes of dyno time....just to do some pulls on 2nd/3rd/4th.....just to see....will pop the AEM filter out and do some pulls....

just to try different things.....

i wanted to know what to look out for....how to go ahead and maximize for the money I spend....just the to do's and dont;s....

now since I will be running the dyno....they will strap me on and give me 30 minutes....how do i do the pulls ???

easy until 2nd gear and then punch it in third ??? or just punch it thro the way ??? what rpm to punch it from ??? just the general stuff....

Thanks for your help

 

they do the pulls.

its not common practice for the owner to get on the ramp and drive.

 

i agree....but this place you can "rent" the dyno....

so for example if you wanna dyno with the ECU and dyno tune it....the dyno is yours for 30 minutes to 2 hours....

EDIT: i just want to do couple runs and gear up for when my ECU is here

 

oh, you didnt include that in your OP.

 

^^^ i thought that was implied but well.....

 

Basically shift low rpms and WOT on the gear you want right at or around 2K RPM. Sometimes on higher gears you'll have to let off the pedal to see your gains down low. If that dyno can read 1/4 miles, you should do a run from first to 4th. If you want to know each gear's power, do it for 2nd to redline, 3rd to redline, and 4th to redline. Make sure you watch the IAT's to get good numbers. I'd first do 4th gear then 3rd, then 2nd. GL!

 

Inb4lessthan200whp

 

This is Anil's thread...not Aaron's. Not sure if confused.

 

Perfect....Thanks bro....

any reason why you would do a higher gear pull first and then lower ? just trying to learn....

Fixed....you in the right place

hahaha Chad, i think he was being sarcastic....no wait, you were being sarcastic

 

anil what type of dynometer we talking about?

 

I just put it so that your first run on the dyno, you have a better cooling temp to make the best power at first. (most times it's the 2nd or 3rd pull on the same gear)

 

Sean...thank you for reminding me.....

there is a dynojet and a mustang dyno in the neighborhood....which one is more accurate ??? I would like to dyno on that

i was thinking of:

4th gear - 2 runs
let her cool down
3rd gear - 2 runs
let her cool down
2nd gear - 2 runs
let her cool down
REDLINE run from 1st - 2nd - 3rd - 4th....just 1 run as you suggested if they have 1/4 mile tracking capability....

 

mustang dynos generally run a higher load. for tuning, much better and more real world.

dynojet's tend to run about 5-15% higher than mustang dynos.

mustang dynos are considered 'the standard' dyno, and usually others are compared against it.

however, calibration of each can EXTREMELY vary those numbers. Shops like to fiddle with them to read more power, unfortunately

 

Won't the trans downshift though? Not too sure how to dyno an automatic to be honest.

Anil, I've never seen anyone else but the dyno operator drive the car on the dyno. I understand you're 'renting' it, but I'd imagine someone will still be with you doing the driving and loading/changing screens on the computer. I could be wrong, but I'd be surprised (not surprised that I'm wrong, that they let you lol).

Make sure to ask for SAE corrected numbers!!! This is a MUST! Can you please list your mods again? I apologize in advance but I'm pretty sure you have the following:

3.5" CAI/Full exhaust/Ported 3.7 manifold/bored 3.7 throttle body/Ported runners/massive weight reduction?

 

oh, and go to a site that has your location DA #, that's what they use to correct, forum compare and shit.

 

damn that sucks....so do you mean Dynojet is better ??? or should i just go where am getting a better deal....there is a shop around here (dont know the dyno they have) but they owe me 5 runs....so am thinking of just settling the account with them and getting it there.....


SS mode YO !!!

about the dyno, if you get the time and they now what you are doing they leave you alone....you will see tons of corvette and mustangs there where the guys are dyno tuning it and do couple runs and change the settings and run again, you know the drill....and they are usually left alone....i was thinking of asking my wifey to take videos of the dyno screen while am gunning it....

Mods:
4" intake
Polished SHAWD TB
Pnp SHAWD Manifold
PnP Runners
PCD's
True Dual exhaust
590 lbs weight reduction
UR Crank pulley
Motor Mounts (just to list it all)
Coolant bypass etc

To be very honest I would love to see 275+ on the dyno....what do you say ???

DA# ??? is that the correction factor ?

 

Density altitude

 

Swoosh I'd do the DynoJet at first. If you'd like to compare after, then do that. But most of us have used the DynoJet so it will be easier to 'compare' to others, especially with the SAE standard, which I believe is relatively accurate compaing dynos across the country (hence why I think DynoJet is the industry standard). Numbers on the Mustang will be lower and you will 'seem' disappointed because of this. Although this could be considered somewhat of a 'baseline.'

It's not DA, that's for the track. I think he's referring to SAE numbers (they usually can do this for you).

I think you will be around 265-270/235 SAE.

 

^my 241 was made on a dynojet SAE corrected

 

^ Great numbers for just PCD/Jpipe. Any plans to dyno again with your current mods? On the same dyno of course...

 

DA is for everything. DA is the actual amount of oxygen in the air, where you are. it factors humidity displacement, barometric pressure, etc. It's how you know TRULY if the days you do your runs are similar or not. It's important to have if you are going to be checking power gains per mod and make more than one trip. if he had his ecu, he could monitor IAT's and get even closer to the most concrete day to day info possible. (don't forget to check the dyno room temp anil, that matters too)

Mustang dynos are the most used for finalizing up custom tunes, since they add the most load. More load, more fuel. It prevents running into lean conditions on the street. since that's the favorite of tuners, most people end up on those.

but yes, its dyno jets or mustang dynos as the 'norm' or 'standard'

 

with the addition of the PnP IM and runners and bored TB, I dont really "feel" a difference.

i still have stock intake.
I'll try rigging up one this weekend.

But, of course. I do plan on going back to the same shop!!!

 

True Veg, but I believe the SAE correction accounts for all factors (temperature, humidity, barometric pressure). I'm not sure if it accounts for altitude though.

Justn, get that intake!!! I didn't realize you were still the stock box! You should feel a big gain after a CAI.

 

235 ??? Thats it

for some reason i want 275+ and 250+.... but again am very optimistic

and very very good advice about dynojet....it would be awesome to compare with couple members on here and see where I stand....

quit bragging.....

hahaha he has many more mods....he got my old manifold/runners/TB....loved that setup.....

am still monitoring my AFR and IAT's



and room temperature....am i looking at a cooler room which is better ?

what is the max coolant temp I should run before i let her cool down ??? 210deg ???

NO FUCKING SHIT !!!

completely forgot about that.....i kept asking him to reset the ECU

Justn your stock intake is putting the same air in your manifold....so no matter how wide you go on the TB/runners you wont gain shit....am kinda surprised you didnt loose power as you reduce the intake velocity by opening up the ports and not pushing more air thro !!!

get a CAI....just get a custom 3"-3.5" for the setup you have

 

I doubt you will see 250tq. That's a number the 3.5 guys see. If you were 6MT with your current mods you may be around 250tq.

I'm assuming we will be around the same numbers once I get the manifold/tb/runners in. I say this because I'm 6MT 3.0 and you're 5AT 3.2. I'm hoping for 270/235 (although I may need to upgrade my intake for these numbers). So I'm definitely excited to see your numbers

 

^since all three of us are around the same power, it would be interesting to see a race.

 

ohh i completely agree....i was just putting my wish list on here LOL

waiting on my ECU, so want to be in the 290's/260's with the setup....

then i think i am done for the next year or so....buying a house so all the moolah will go there.....


yes....but remember Auto will take on the MT if its the same power/tq....my ECU shifts quicker

 

^ Debatable

Remember, the 6MT has better gearing hehehehe. But I think Swoosh would take us Justn, his TL weighs like 2900lbs lol.

 

its still fun to paper race.

 

haha...i wish i was at 2900....am sitting at 30XX

and hell yeah....paper race it is....

 

Paper racing is fun.

Anil, do you have any date set? Or just sometime within the next 2 weeks or so?

 

I havent taken a date as Rodney was saying i might get my ecu in the next 2 weeks

so thought will install everything and head to the dyno....1 session....run without the ECU...plug in run with base map....play with the map....run with modified map....see the gain difference in 1 day in 1 session....

thats my thinking....

 

my numbers are from a mustang dyno. Im going to a meet at a shop my friend works at in NC at the end of june. Believe they have a dynojet. Will be ineresting to see the difference for me, but also have to take note of the different things. like altitude, etc.

At the end of every pull put car in neutral immediately and DONT touch the brakes.

 

good call, that's how you measure drivetrain losses

 

Oh Anil, you're so cute.

 

Are you going to go to Revline Motorsports (DynoJet)?

 

Anil, sounds like a great plan. I'd wait until you get the ECU even if it's not within the next 2 weeks. Although it should because you've orchestrated the whole damn GB!

 

CAI improved my 1/4 times by an average of .37! It was also 25 degrees hotter when I ran with the CAI versus my baseline runs with the stock box.

 

ahh....and you hit say 6900 rpm and let off the throttle and throw her in Neutral right ?

dammit...i didnt know that either....and how do you measure it ??? as in how do you see it in the graph ???





Am thinking between Revline/MC Racing and another shop....MC does owe me 5 runs....so might just go there.....

wanna come along ???

dude honestly....i have been taking a lot of wood/heat coz of Rodney....i hate when shit like this comes between friends....i practically arguing my point with Veggie/Rockstar/Sharky and i like those folks and dont wanna loose my ties with them....but well it is what it is....

i really hope all the orders are fulfilled (including mine) in the next 2 weeks so we can close that chapter and move on with the more important TUNING part....

 

air availability can do wonderful things....

also what CAI are you running ?