blaze92

Which is better out of the two? Which has more gains and are they noticeable? Which is louder? What's the prices and how much would installation be?

thisaznboi88

iTrader: (7)

Headers give 30whp if you can install it

GrwnUpRcer

I heard its closer to 40

pohljm

whatever it is headers would be better. if we only could

rossv1

Stop messing with him guys.

The only guy that makes headers for our cars is Ron A. PM him and he'll get ya hooked up.

DC2many

^ really? What do they even look like on the 3G lol

blaze92

Do you know the difference in gains from his headers compared to j pipe. And price difference

VanyDotK

iTrader: (6)

I thought they we welded on to the engine block on the 3G?

NvrDwn

You obviously don't have a clue about what you are talking about.

Headers ftw on 3g's!

9632tl

Get headers put on your 3g and tell me how it goes

justnspace

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if you havent noticed OP, on the 3rd gen TL the heads are cast on to the block.
so, we dont have the need for headers.

catalytic converters are coming off the heads; and we replace these cats with straight pipes.

Most everyone does the Jpipe mod first.
ya know to test waters to see if they would like to further mod the exhaust.

I did jpipe; and then wanted more power.
so, I bought Pre-cat deletes; or PCDs.
these straight pipes replaced the cats.

However there are drawbacks to PCDs.
with PCDs:

you might not pass emissions; depending on how strict your emission testing is.
2nd, there is a smell and sound that come with PCDs


since you're replacing the cats with straight pipe; you get a raw machine gasoline smell.
almost like a weed wacker.

the straight pipe is thinner in material; and as the exhaust gas passes through; it will emit a raspy sound.

thisaznboi88

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^ awww party pooper

EvilVirus

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OP justn just gave you the answer to your question. I advise you to research the forum more often to get a better comprehension on what you are looking for.

350

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Long tube headers. Or Tri Y's that go 4-2-1 for increased midrange torque.

losiglow

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Justn ruined it :P

No really though, I voted headers. Just imagine, cut the headers off the block and weld on some PnP ones that are 4 inches in diameter. w00t!

zachlone

Im the only one that voted J pipe

CLtotheTL32

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Justin you suck.

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

on the contrary; you guise all suck for rehashing old 1999 vtec, blinker fluid, and red text jokes.

Get New Material!

thisaznboi88

iTrader: (7)

heads are new material. Especially since in 1999 cars actually have headers while 2004+ have a single port outlet : )

Since red is played out I will use pink

ggesq

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save the

EvilVirus

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^ the boobies approve

zachlone

those epic boobs

EvilVirus

iTrader: (8)

<-----------and thats how I feel when I get to play with them

zachlone

thisaznboi88

iTrader: (7)

So I think we scared the OP away. lol

zachlone

damn someone else voted Jpipe! I wanted to be the only one