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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 12:20 AM
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FlashPro for 04-06 TL

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I have not posted in awhile but have been trying to follow most of the new threads about Hondata flashpro. I have a 2006 TL. I have 2 questions:
1. Has anyone been able to make a harness for Flashpro for the 04-06 models?
2. I am going to be doing a 6mt swap sometime this year (hopefully after my first bonus) I will be buying a new 6mt tranny and parts from a 2007-08 type s. I will also be buying an ECU. What else do i need if i go this route as far as electronics and wire harness?..

If someone is able to make a harness for the 2006 I would still have to buy a new immobilizer and ecu correct?
My baby is payed off and i have no problem dropping some money on it in due time i just need some direction here..
Im currently in Jackson Mississippi training for my new job then i go back to Dallas March 1st would really like to meet up with some azine peeps and talk cars and get ideas.

Thank you all.
Knox
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 06:12 AM
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You can be patient. Find out more on other forums, they are trying to do this just as much as you and I are. It'll be soon here with these trials and errors. You can try out Vx6xPerformance dot net ( remove the x), they got some interesting threads going.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 06:36 AM
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As of now the only retrofit that will work is the 6MT. The differences in sensors and switches between the 04-06 vs 07-08 5AT appears to make this impossible.

I have an 06 6MT and have everything in hand except for a new battery to arrive today and time.

The immobilizer is a programmed feature. There are a few options and I chose to purchase a fly100 which in software calculates the passcode to write to the immobilizer. In normal circumstances you can take it to a dealer or buy the ability through the honda service website. I don't think a dealer would touch a retrofitted ECU.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 07:47 AM
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I think you need to swap ECU and repin some of the OBDII connectors since the 04-06 protocol is different from the 07-08. It seems to be a lot of work.

also do what bouncer07 said and check out the Revbox on V.6.P. I am currently helping out with the testing. So more info will be posted later. We are still working out the kinks with the autotuning program to target the AFR to 13.1. There is no timing advance for now since the developer AV6 was totaled.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by thisaznboi88
I think you need to swap ECU and repin some of the OBDII connectors since the 04-06 protocol is different from the 07-08. It seems to be a lot of work.

also do what bouncer07 said and check out the Revbox on V.6.P. I am currently helping out with the testing. So more info will be posted later. We are still working out the kinks with the autotuning program to target the AFR to 13.1. There is no timing advance for now since the developer AV6 was totaled.
Need to move one pin and add 2 others on the DLC connector. I've got plugs and sockets to do this without disturbing the stock plug.

There are also some other inputs that may need to be addressed like starter relay, a second temp sensor and possibly other things. I am going to try leaving those inputs open but also prepared to address them if I need to.

For the 06 there is no remapping . The 04/05 is going to need a harness to remap.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 09:12 AM
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OP no offense, but if you've been following the Hondata threads closely you would know there is no solution for the 04-06 TLs at this point. I guess this could potentially be the troubleshooting thread though, in terms of updates for anyone working on this conversion.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 09:31 AM
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^ or you can go on hondata website and they spell it out in plan English.

http://www.hondata.com/flashpro_07-08_tl.html

Why wont this work for the 04-06 Acura TL?
The 07 Acura TL was the first TL to use the CAN programming protocol. This allows the ECU to be programmed in under 2 minutes and easily recover from programming mishaps such a drop in battery voltage or accidentally disconnecting the FlashPro during programming. The 04-06 TL ECUs take much longer to program (making them less suitable for dyno tuning) and are susceptible to damage rendering them unusable should the programming process be interrupted. FlashPro cannot program ECUs using the earlier K-Line communications protocol.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 04:45 PM
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So I will have to use a 04-06 MT? What if I had all the sensors and everything from the 07? And I have read on hondata about why it won't work on our car. If you read my first post more carefully you would realize that I am asking if their have been any new updates on anyone getting flashpro to work with the 06 model.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by knoxtl
What if I had all the sensors and everything from the 07?
What are you going to do with the extra sensors and switches?????

Short of swapping the engine, transmission and wiring, I can't see it working.

Hondata may be working on something but only selective few know anything about that.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 05:25 PM
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I didn't know their we're extra sensors. Thank you kn_tl. I definently want to do the mt swap I just want to be able to have all the tuning abilities of the 07-08 tl (traction control) etc
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 05:45 PM
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What part of

Why wont this work for the 04-06 Acura TL? do you not understand. It won't work. Maybe in a few months or a few year. But as of now it DOES NOT WORK as of right now. Sorry I had to be blunt


The 07 Acura TL was the first TL to use the CAN programming protocol. This allows the ECU to be programmed in under 2 minutes and easily recover from programming mishaps such a drop in battery voltage or accidentally disconnecting the FlashPro during programming. The 04-06 TL ECUs take much longer to program (making them less suitable for dyno tuning) and are susceptible to damage rendering them unusable should the programming process be interrupted. FlashPro cannot program ECUs using the earlier K-Line communications protocol.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by thisaznboi88
What part of

Why wont this work for the 04-06 Acura TL? do you not understand. It won't work. Maybe in a few months or a few year. But as of now it DOES NOT WORK as of right now. Sorry I had to be blunt


The 07 Acura TL was the first TL to use the CAN programming protocol. This allows the ECU to be programmed in under 2 minutes and easily recover from programming mishaps such a drop in battery voltage or accidentally disconnecting the FlashPro during programming. The 04-06 TL ECUs take much longer to program (making them less suitable for dyno tuning) and are susceptible to damage rendering them unusable should the programming process be interrupted. FlashPro cannot program ECUs using the earlier K-Line communications protocol.
That may not be totally true......
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 06:38 PM
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Well as of right now. 2.15.13 it doesn't work. Maybe it will work tomorrow, a week, a month? Just saying
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 07:51 PM
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Just saying gtfo, we have people on this forum much smarter than you who are problem solvers and are not just readers who repeat everything they read off the INTERNET. Just dont be a di ck dude. If your not going to contribute to a solution then dont write on this thread. simple as that. Sorry i had to be blunt..
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by thisaznboi88
What part of

Why wont this work for the 04-06 Acura TL? do you not understand. It won't work. Maybe in a few months or a few year. But as of now it DOES NOT WORK as of right now. Sorry I had to be blunt


The 07 Acura TL was the first TL to use the CAN programming protocol. This allows the ECU to be programmed in under 2 minutes and easily recover from programming mishaps such a drop in battery voltage or accidentally disconnecting the FlashPro during programming. The 04-06 TL ECUs take much longer to program (making them less suitable for dyno tuning) and are susceptible to damage rendering them unusable should the programming process be interrupted. FlashPro cannot program ECUs using the earlier K-Line communications protocol.
There is NO reason for this..

People said no one would ever get a 6 speed manual to work in a 2nd gen TL. Guess what. I was the first and i got it to work! There is no reason with a little work/rewiring you couldnt get this to work. All its going to take is one to actually take the time and effort and it will get solved.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 08:37 PM
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AGREED fsttyms1... Good job stay positive and carry on.
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Old Feb 21, 2013 | 08:41 PM
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any new news? Has anyone tried putting the 07 ecu in a 06 or would the entire harness need to be replaced for this?
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Old Feb 21, 2013 | 10:04 PM
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Dude just stay on the hondata thread like you have been doing. Its rather pointless with this thread.
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 06:40 AM
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Tru dat, even Hondata replied there. You'll get more info following what Hondata says, that way you'll get anwers straight from them instead of this 3rd person he said she said.
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 07:41 AM
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As it has been noted many times, the 04 and 05 will need to be remapped using a harness or repinning the existing connectors. The 06 is almost 1-1 with just the addition of a few wires, that's why Hondata is looking for an 06.

It's also noted that the AT crowd is SOL because of the switch/sensor differences. There is where a full engine, transmission, harness swap will be needed.
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