Thanks for the update. Hopefully they'll be ready soon. But, also I hope they take all the time they need to get the most power gain from them in a thorough R&D. I am really interested in these.

Just for the record. A dyno test is necessary. Just take a look at Richies V3 J-pipe thread. As soon as the numbers were posted those things started to sell like hotcakes!

 

Def Interested in this,but somewhat hard to commit without the sound/dyno test.

 

Anyone heard anything??

 

Ok...so these should be out by now right? At least that's what the first post said. So what's going on with this now Josh?

 

yes i want to hear the sound and see the dyno. until then im not even going to consider these.

 

Well no one seems to want to get involved with the GB. Another set has to be made and the components haven't been finished. So P2R is going to complete this project but not immediately. They pursued a couple other projects in the meantime since they will have to put up more money, more time, and then get a video and sound clip before anyone wants to buy.

 

You can not expect people to put up large amounts of money for a brand new concept/product with nothing but a description of what it is planned to be! I am surprised that P2R really thought people would do this! It is as simple as getting a prototype made and tested to prove it is a legit and functional piece and works as they hope and described it will. I think it would be a very popular item if it worked!! I am personally disappointed to hear they have put it off due to not having enough gulible people to fund the R&D!

 

I would agree with the previous posts. I can't imagine through all of the R&D that there are no dyno graphs available along with video of the project... If there are no dyno graphs readily available, I am skeptical of the amount of R&D that was actually involved in this project...

 

Thats really disappointing.

 

People have already expressed interest. That's all that consumers are going to express right now. Honestly, you can't blame them. There is no finished product. There are no dynos. There are no pictures. People aren't going to fork over money on hopes and dreams. Once P2R finishes the product and has dynos of it, they will start seeing much more interest.

No offense to P2R AT ALL, I know they do great work, but do they expect to have people leaping hurdles to buy a product that doesn't even have a release date? Or anything to back it up? Numerous people have shown interest, with me being one of them. They are on AZine and have posted once in this thread I believe. They are making the product and should be answering questions. I've seen 370z forums and the vendors are there answering every question possible. Mike from ATLP and Josh from XLR8 have done the same on this forum. I just haven't seen that from P2R yet. If they want interest, they have to SHOW interest. /story

 

I am interested in this. It'd be real nice to have a set of resonated PCDs. However as far as I can tell these are just heresay and so far do not actually exist. I mean all we have is a rendering. Not even real pics. Ima keep an eye on this thread, but until they at least tease us with some actual pics of the things I'm going to remain nuetral on this "product"

 

^^Well Said Sonnick!!

 

Even if they did post pics and dyno's... there would be something important missing. SOUND CLIPS. What an exhaust sounds like with RV6 PCD and then these resonated PCD. I can't imagine this product offering any more performance than RV6 is. Are these going to have fiberglass packing or just empty like a "resonated" test pipe that does nothing to resonate?

 

They will probably use a perforated design like the straight thru mufflers (Magnaflow, Dynomax, etc) or something similar. But who knows? Maybe they will come on and tell us....

Maybe forums aren't their thing because I know when I called P2R and spoke to Sean he was VERY helpful and answered all of my questions about the ported intake manifold. Their customer service is great from my experience, so hopefully they come on here and let us know whats good!

 

I know you are all anxious to see how well these perform. We would like to provide you with the dynos and sound clips; however, we have a few obstacles at the moment that has put us on a slight delay. A quick example, the car we were doing all the testing on, was recently in a accident, and is now totaled. So we will need to find someone else with a TL in order to get the sound clips, etc for you guys. So in the mean time, we just decided to put these behind a few other products we are developing. Its not that we are execting everyone to come out of pocket without seeing anything. But we cant put this in front of other projects and sit on them until we are finally able to complete the rest of testing.

Just give us a little more time, and we will update you guys on the progress of this project.

 

Sounds good

Thanks for posting and shutting us up

 

I guess I'll be waiting........ I'll spend my money on other goodies in the mean time lol

 

How long do you all need a car to test on? Just curious...

 

Sounds like a dead issue for now...

 

This Thread FAIL all over it

 

i really wish vendors would complete their work/projects before making posts on this site

not having alot of aftermarket support for the TL is a fact we live with so when something like this comes along we all get excited and ready to add a new mod but we get slapped with excuses, delays and "we dont knows when"s

judging by the first page or so there was a good amount of buzz about this and now people will spend their money on other mods in the "meantime"


this isnt an attack on you personally (i almost forgot i ever ordered the ATLP v2 quads untill i got an email 2 months later asking for money) i just wish some more time would go into the actual marketing and distribution and presentation instead of a random post with a rendering asking for 4 bills

 

P2R had expected more people would commit to the project. Unfortunately some things came up. The project isn't dead. Give them some time.

On a side note I don't think some of you appreciate how much aftermarket support companies like P2R, Excelerate, ATLP, Heeltoe, etc have lended to the TL community. Do you know how difficult it is to actually manufacture a part using your own capital? There is a significant amount of investment and time involved in each part. And threads like these help vendors determine which parts will flop and which have a great demand.

 

I agree with Excelerate.

Giving a vendor a hard time would be justified If our car was a STI, EVO, Mustang, or Camaro.

During my daily commute thru a big city like Houston, 90%+ of the TL's that I see are being driven by older ladies mostly or older men (hey, I am not an old man ). I am amazed that we have any performance goodies for such a demographic.

 

i applaud you and all the efforts from the vendors here i wasnt trying to come off as ungrateful, id have a plain ass TL if it wasnt for yall......i am just saying there is more to business than just having a product

you would have gotten a much greater response and following if you held off on the post for maybe a month and gotten actual pics, dynos and sound clips....people want numbers facts and real world opinions

i am sure the product is great( i actually was never into PCDs bc theyd be too loud and raspy but now i would def buy the resonated ones from you) but you cant throw up a rendering and expect to have a following...maybe the thread should be like a feeler thread? instead of a group buy of something you dont even have or is made/tested

 

+1

We have had threads like this make or break an entire product idea. It is not about manning up. We just have to make smart choices and we need some sense from you guys that the stuff is going to sell the way we think it will

 

Well I'm probably going to be building an old BMW 02 for the track but if not I will certainly put my money into some PCDs and this looks like my best option for keeping the exhaust tone.

 

Understandable.. but obviously this product has generated a lot of heat. How difficult is it to post a sound clip or to at least offer a nice discount to the first member who buys it and post up a decent sound clip. Sounds like a win win to me.

 

I think I agree with just about everyone who's posted on this thread. First, to give XLR8 and P2R the marketing info they need: I'm very interested and would seriously consider buying the resonated PCDs. That's all P2R needs to know right now is that I am interested in a product they currently are or will be manufacturing. On the flip side, this whole idea shouldn't have been brought to us as a group buy, ready to roll, when P2R hadn't really done all the homework on the idea. It should've been posted as a question to us all. Everybody knows how this place operates. We're all waiting for the next best thing to come along to give us 1 or 2 HP or a slightly better sound or both. And every time something new comes out, you have to know that there will be about a million question that will follow asking for pics, vids, dynos, etc. That's the nature of the beast. I think I speak for a lot, if not everyone here, that we're grateful for P2R and XLR8 for their dedication to this site and the TL community. This particular issue probably just could've been handled a little better. Thanks guys.

 

This isn't a difficult part to conceptualize. It is an evolution of something that already exists that will reduce the noise a bit. I doubt you'd really hear a difference in sound clips.

If someone said "get precats, the make power!"
And I said, "cool, who makes them?"
And they said "Well, RV6 make some straight ones, and XLR8 makes resonated ones"
I'd probably say "cool...I'm more conservative so I'd like the resonated ones"
But they'd say "well, technically those don't exist yet, but they are taking orders for the first production now"
I'd do some homework and find out how reputable XLR8 was and be like "No worries, where do I sign up?" because I know what I want, I did a little homework, and I know my money is safely invested in the item that will make me happiest.

Not everything needs to be a big debate with all kinds of proof and stuff. We know Josh and P2R. Why doubt that they could make something you wanted? If the concept is good, the execution shouldn't be a concern.

 

As long as they follow through no one should have any concern. They are reputable, back their products and honest.

 

Good post. I would be willing to pay good money for a product coming from a rep company.

Hell I would pay for the test set and put up my own video clip, dynoes, etc.... As long as my check engine light does not come on I'm happy.

 

Last post was 12 days ago... Any update?

 

Another one bites the dust...

 

Damn I wanted these

 

Josh/P2R will get to these eventually I'm sure, in the mean time, negative and hopeless posts aren't helping anybody...

 

+1. They will get to these guys, but like they said, they have another project they are working on in the meantime. Give them some time, they will come through .

 

Man I hope this project can be resurected from the grave.

 

+1

How did I miss this post all together? I like the idea of a resonated PCD. A lot of people are wanting to do the PCD/J-pipe to get the big gains while retaining an OEM exhaust but do not want to deal with the rasp that goes along with the PCD's and do not want to have to hack up the factory exhaust to tame it.

I really think these could be a huge success if they do truly reduce PCD rasp.

 

So what's the deal with these? Any updates? Resurrecting this thread cause I want to know.

 

+1... im very interested in these aswell b/c the only thing holding me back from buying the rv6 ones is the rasp. i understand that the power gains are amazing but like some other members said i will not tolerate a ricey rasp coming from my luxury sedan... hope these actually make it to the market and reduce the rasp.