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Old 03-02-2014, 03:39 AM
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Brakes on Budget

Ok so my front right side brake is vibrating when under heavy braking. I live in Houston and commute 60miles a day in traffic. Brakes are a necesity.

With that being said I have an 04 base and looking to replace just the front rotors and pads. I was looking into "blank" stoptechs & stoptech pads from XLR8.
Comes out to about 165 shipped. If shipping wasnt so high I could afford the entire set.

Maybe there is something else out there that I can get a little cheaper and still have a reliable rotor and pad.
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Hi!

I'm Justin and also live in Houston!
Have you taken a look at the autozone pad and rotors? they are WONDERFUL!!!!

take a look at the Duralast Cmax Gold ceramic pads! then pick up up the duralast blank rotor!


Ive installed these pads and rotors in other Houston acurazine members rides, including an RL and TL's.
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how many miles are on these brakes? why do you believe that you need new rotors?
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brakemotive sells 4 rotors + pads for about the same price.

https://acurazine.com/forums/sponsored-sales-group-buys-10/brakemotive-drilled-slotted-brake-kits-lowest-prices-ever-809114/
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wagner pads. You can make money after rebate.

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/1148...amic-sets-from
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XLR8 is running free shipping right now on Stoptech brake packages. PM them and see what they can do for you. If you cant swing that then try Justins advice on the Autozone stuff.

I would steer clear of brakemotive FWIW. Lets just say I have them and will be replacing in the very near future.
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Centric brakes are the only way to go in my opinion. I use the 104 series pads on my type s and they stop just as good as the factory brembo pads and rotors I had on before for a fraction of the price.
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I'd stay away from brake motive. Yes they might be in your budge ($160 for front & rear rotors and front & rear brake pads) but there's a reason they are so cheap.

I don't own them myself but i've read NUMEROUS threads and posts about people saying that everything was good for a few weeks and than later down the roads they started having screeching and squealing sounds from the brakes.

Some of the rotors even warped in less than half a year.

I would not buy something just because it's cheap and affordable only to have to turn around and get the part replaced under warranty and go through the process of having to remove and reinstall everything again in less than a year.

Do some major research about brakemotive kits before you think about buying them. Google search them. They are a vendor here on Acurazine but they are also vendors on several other car enthusiast forums for other makes and models. I would read a couple posts about their rotors and pads. You'll change your mind about them pretty quick.
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I too am in need of installing new brakes on my 99 cl 3.0 I already have slotted rotors what is the brand to keep the brake dust down? The car is so slammed that I can't go into a automatic car wash to wash the undercarriage.
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Originally Posted by Loney Lolyffe
I too am in need of installing new brakes on my 99 cl 3.0 I already have slotted rotors what is the brand to keep the brake dust down? The car is so slammed that I can't go into a automatic car wash to wash the undercarriage.
there isnt a certain brand, but a certain compound.
stick with ceramic pads and you'll kiss the dust good bye.
Ive had great luck installing autozone duralast cmax gold ceramic brake pads on my friends TL's and RL's.
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Number one thing to not cheap out on is tires Imo, second would be brakes. With that said, up your budget.

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I'd stay away from brake motive. Yes they might be in your budge ($160 for front & rear rotors and front & rear brake pads) but there's a reason they are so cheap.

I don't own them myself but i've read NUMEROUS threads and posts about people saying that everything was good for a few weeks and than later down the roads they started having screeching and squealing sounds from the brakes.

Some of the rotors even warped in less than half a year.

I would not buy something just because it's cheap and affordable only to have to turn around and get the part replaced under warranty and go through the process of having to remove and reinstall everything again in less than a year.

Do some major research about brakemotive kits before you think about buying them. Google search them. They are a vendor here on Acurazine but they are also vendors on several other car enthusiast forums for other makes and models. I would read a couple posts about their rotors and pads. You'll change your mind about them pretty quick.
I concur doing some major research on them. I had these brakes on my 01 IS300, 07 M45, will be ordering a set for my 08 TL, and installed 2 sets on an 06 Civic and 05 G35. My personal review having used them on two of my cars and my buddies (who are still running them), are that they are great!

I was going to put a set on my C5 Vette after reading some reviews, owners stated they warped fast. Apparently the Vette owners were taking them road racing which it is not mean for as they are only a slight upgrade over oem (IMO). Brakemotive reimbursed a few owners the full price but restated that these brakes were not meant for road racing.

My M45 is habitual in warping OEM rotors. After researching on the M45 forums, members recommended Brakemotive. They have been great ever since with only stock like driving. My oem rotors warped with a disturbing vibration only after 15k miles.

My personal review. I will be buying another set for my current DD (08 TL) as they have been great to me and my personal friends. Hope this helped some.
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Originally Posted by 1islandparadise
I concur doing some major research on them. I had these brakes on my 01 IS300, 07 M45, will be ordering a set for my 08 TL, and installed 2 sets on an 06 Civic and 05 G35. My personal review having used them on two of my cars and my buddies (who are still running them), are that they are great!

I was going to put a set on my C5 Vette after reading some reviews, owners stated they warped fast. Apparently the Vette owners were taking them road racing which it is not mean for as they are only a slight upgrade over oem (IMO). Brakemotive reimbursed a few owners the full price but restated that these brakes were not meant for road racing.

My M45 is habitual in warping OEM rotors. After researching on the M45 forums, members recommended Brakemotive. They have been great ever since with only stock like driving. My oem rotors warped with a disturbing vibration only after 15k miles.

My personal review. I will be buying another set for my current DD (08 TL) as they have been great to me and my personal friends. Hope this helped some.
How long have you had the BM's? I have had them for a little less than 2 years and the fronts have warped and wont stop squealing no matter what I have tried to do to quiet them. If you are warping OEM rotors on your M45 these sure to warp. I'd look into stop tech or something else. Stop tech blanks arent that much more than the BM's.
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I really like my current setup, they are Centric blank (High Carbon) rotors/Stoptech street performance pads. From my understanding Centric makes Stoptech. Here is my parts list...I also purchased stainless steel lines. All of the below was under $425 shipped!


Centric High-Carbon Rotors
Frt. Right--125.40046.0
Frt. Left--125.40046.1
Rear--125.40061

Centric Caliper Hardware
Frt.--117.40032
Rear--117.40020

Stoptech (Centric) Pads
Frt--309.07870
Rear--309.05360

Stoptech (Centric) Stainless Steel Lines
Frt.--950.40005
Rear--950.40502

I purchased through vendor here on Azine named "KenAJUSA", and he was very helpful!

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I really like my current setup, they are Centric blank (High Carbon) rotors/Stoptech street performance pads. From my understanding Centric makes Stoptech. Here is my parts list...I also purchased stainless steel lines. All of the below was under $425 shipped!


Centric High-Carbon Rotors
Frt. Right--125.40046.0
Frt. Left--125.40046.1
Rear--125.40061

Centric Caliper Hardware
Frt.--117.40032
Rear--117.40020

Stoptech (Centric) Pads
Frt--309.07870
Rear--309.05360

Stoptech (Centric) Stainless Steel Lines
Frt.--950.40005
Rear--950.40502

I purchased through vendor here on Azine named "KenAJUSA", and he was very helpful!
Yes you are correct centric does make stop tech. That's a great set up you have for a great price. I'm basically running the opposite I have centric 104 series pads and stop tech 126 series slotted rotors. The front set up was under $150 and stops better then the factory stuff I replaced. Also much less dust and noise.
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Originally Posted by McCollins23
How long have you had the BM's? I have had them for a little less than 2 years and the fronts have warped and wont stop squealing no matter what I have tried to do to quiet them. If you are warping OEM rotors on your M45 these sure to warp. I'd look into stop tech or something else. Stop tech blanks arent that much more than the BM's.
The IS300 I put about 12k miles and the M45 about 30k miles on the brakemotive rotors and pads with no issues. As stated before the Infiniti M forum recommends brakemotive since they are better than our oem rotors. No reason to look for another company when my experience on 2 of my personal cars and 2 of my close friends cars have been great. Although, in your situation the stop techs may work better for you.
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I've also had no issues with Brakemotive.
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R1 concepts sometimes puts deals on ebay with rotors and pads(posi quiet) for all 4 corners.


(Oh about them being made in china, their rotors are fine, at least for me and my friends)
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Originally Posted by NvrDwn
Number one thing to not cheap out on is tires Imo, second would be brakes. With that said, up your budget.
Agreed. Tires determine how quickly you can stop in a one stop panic stop, not brakes.
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Raybestows are solid brakes. Whatever stock brand you're looking at Ceramics are what you're looking for
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Actually, sintered pads, something no one ever mentions are the best in pretty much every area but pricing. Getting ready to throw some on my Stoptech BBK since I have a little extra money. At $350, they're one of the most expensive pads out there but for something that's all but impossible to fade, don't need a break-in, work as well in the cold as under racing conditions, little to no friction coefficient change from cold to hot, are very gentle on rotors, low noise, and should last the life of the car which also means no brake dust, they will pay for themselves eventually.

I've driven one car with them and loved them. I run them on my mountain bike because they were only $30 for the little tiny pads. With the 8" rotors on my bike, the initial grab of the ceramic pads were fine but after a few seconds of braking as the pads warmed up, their friction coefficient went up and would nearly send me over the bars until I got used to them and I weigh 230lbs. My car does the same thing with ceramics. Good initial bite on a cold stop but I have to continually ease off the pedal as the pads and rotors warm up and friction coefficient changes.
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08 TL Type S Brakes

So, I took the TL-S to the track, and it performed great! Deep into the brakes, high performance on the turns, and well outperformed some very beefy competitors. So well in fact, I completely cooked the stock pads, to the point where the rotor decided to get in on the action. Any suggestions on pads and rotors for high performance driving? I was thinking a stock rotor, and maybe some higher end pads, but wanted some more expert opinions. Thanks!
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So, I took the TL-S to the track, and it performed great! Deep into the brakes, high performance on the turns, and well outperformed some very beefy competitors. So well in fact, I completely cooked the stock pads, to the point where the rotor decided to get in on the action. Any suggestions on pads and rotors for high performance driving? I was thinking a stock rotor, and maybe some higher end pads, but wanted some more expert opinions. Thanks!
Pads are definitely the first place to start and probably the best bang for the buck. As the pads operating range gets higher, brake fluid becomes more important. While the pads usually give some warning before fade, boiling fluid gives no warning and you lose the brakes completely.

Motul RBF 600 is one of the best fluids out there.

With more aggressive pads come more trade offs such as noise, pad wear, rotor wear and dusting goes hand in hand with pad and rotor wear, cold friction, etc. the Stoptech street pads are one of the better pads I've tried of the pads that don't have any significant trade offs.

If pads and fluid don't do it for you, you might think of using a dedicated track pad. Once you upgrade tires you will be even harder on the brakes.

The Brembo rotors aren't that big at 12.2" considering so much weight is on the front of the car. Even with my base auto and a 13" BBK I've faded them and that's with less power but I do run it on an aggressive tire. If you can find a stock sized rotor with curved internal vanes to pump air through the rotors that would be a first upgrade. I believe Stoptech has those kind of rotors.

Next on the list if you're still experiencing fade is to adjust your driving or go with a larger rotor. Weight reduction will help somewhat as well. I look at the bigger brakes as having your cake and eating it too. They allow me to run a good street pad and it's all I need, without having to use race pads and the compromises that come with them. At the track with 13" rotors and street pads I still have to be careful but it works.



To be honest, you'll probably be fine with good pads and a good fluid.

If you can find sintered pads for your Brembos you'll have the best of EVERY world. Just be prepared to spend $350 or more for the fronts but they're nearly a lifetime pad with no downsides. I'm getting mine soon.
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You can see if they have any for the stock Brembos from here:

http://www.essexparts.com/shop/brake...ke-pads-1.html
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What about EBC Sport Rotors and its ceramic brake pads? You guys have any experience with these? These are slotted & dimpled rotors which are claimed to maintain structure integrity better than cross-drilled ones.
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hmm - weather was finally decent yesterday and braking on the highway was starting to become a vibrating nightmare so decided to jack the girl up and put on the brakemotive pads and rotors - hope they serve me well

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IHC - with the sintered pads, do you have to put up with noise like crazy? My buddy put Hawk pads (I think the HPS, as he told me to get HP Plus so it wouldn't be so noisy) and they stop like mad -that initial bite is awesome, but they are sooooo noisy its unbearable.

When driving his car, I got to the point of late braking with heavy pedal since they made less noise that way. If you gently applied the brakes, they squealed like no tomorrow.
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I wouldn't have got drilled rotors... You'llzZoe replacing those because of cracks around the holes.
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IHC - with the sintered pads, do you have to put up with noise like crazy? My buddy put Hawk pads (I think the HPS, as he told me to get HP Plus so it wouldn't be so noisy) and they stop like mad -that initial bite is awesome, but they are sooooo noisy its unbearable.

When driving his car, I got to the point of late braking with heavy pedal since they made less noise that way. If you gently applied the brakes, they squealed like no tomorrow.
That's the beauty of sintered pads, they're quiet as stock. They have every upside with no downsides. You just have to get over the crazy purchase price.

The performance is at least on par with most full race pads if not better but without the noise plus they're very gentle on rotors and there's pretty much no dust.

I ran track pads on the street and couldn't live with them, I scared people on the freeway at 70mph when I had to use the brakes. I was worried I was going to cause a wreck from scaring people from the noise lol. It was pretty insane, much different from the noise most people are used to when they talk about noisy brakes. I could see heads turn when I would be coming up to a red light to see where the noise was coming from. I could go and heat them up really good and they would be quiet for about a day but once the transfer layer wore off, the noise was right back again.

I want to try some out on my TL before anyone else just in case there are problems. I don't expect any but I would feel bad if everyone went out and spent nearly $400 on pads and hated them. When payday comes around I'm going to order a set. They work very well on my mountain bike lol.

Also, I'm having problems with a popular problem free street pad right now, I think because of the lower temps of my BBK. I'm not getting a good transfer layer on the rotor because my drive is 1.5 miles each way to work and back and there are just a couple of low speed stops. I've got noise that's pretty annoying. I can get rid of it by doing a few hard stops. I figure if the sintered pads work noise free with my BBK, they should easily work with stock sized brakes.

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You can see if they have any for the stock Brembos from here:

http://www.essexparts.com/shop/brake...ke-pads-1.html
Nothing came up. I'm not concerned about the price of the pads I just can't seem to find any.
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Nothing came up. I'm not concerned about the price of the pads I just can't seem to find any.
perhaps sti,evo, g35 brembo, or 350z brembo pads would work? those cars should have more performance pads available to them
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That worked. Forgot about the cross over.
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Good thinking - Hawk's website shows all these as using the same pads:

Did the 2G TL have Brembos, or I wonder if that is incorrect? All the rest of these I'm pretty sure have Brembos.

ACURA TL TYPE-S V6 3,5 GAS FI (2007, 2008)
ACURA TL V6 3,2 GAS FI (1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008)
BUICK REGAL GS L4 2 FLEX FI (2013)
CADILLAC ATS BASE L4 2 GAS FI (2013)
CADILLAC ATS BASE L4 2,5 GAS FI (2013)
CADILLAC ATS LUXURY L4 2 GAS FI (2013)
CADILLAC ATS LUXURY L4 2,5 GAS FI (2013)
CADILLAC ATS LUXURY V6 3,6 FLEX FI (2013)
CADILLAC ATS PERFORMANCE L4 2 GAS FI (2013)
CADILLAC ATS PERFORMANCE V6 3,6 FLEX FI (2013)
CADILLAC ATS PREMIUM L4 2 GAS FI (2013)
CADILLAC ATS PREMIUM V6 3,6 FLEX FI (2013)
CADILLAC CTS V V8 5,7 GAS FI (2004, 2005)
CADILLAC CTS V V8 6 GAS FI (2006, 2007)
CADILLAC STS PLATINUM V6 3,6 GAS FI (2008, 2009)
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CADILLAC STS V V8 4,4 GAS FI (2006, 2007, 2008, 2009)
CADILLAC XTS BASE V6 3,6 GAS FI (2013)
CADILLAC XTS LUXURY V6 3,6 GAS FI (2013)
CADILLAC XTS PLATINUM V6 3,6 GAS FI (2013)
CADILLAC XTS PREMIUM V6 3,6 GAS FI (2013)
CHEVROLET CAMARO SS V8 6,2 GAS FI (2012)
CHEVROLET CAMARO SS V8 6,2 GAS FI (2010, 2011, 2012, 2013)
CHEVROLET CAMARO ZL1 V8 6,2 GAS FI (2012, 2013)
FORD GT BASE V8 5,4 GAS FI (2005)
FORD GT V8 5,4 GAS FI (2005, 2006)
FORD MUSTANG BASE V6 3,7 GAS FI (2011, 2013)
FORD MUSTANG BOSS 302 V8 5 GAS FI (2012)
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FORD MUSTANG GT V8 5 GAS FI (2012)
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HYUNDAI GENESIS COUPE 2.0T TRACK L4 2 GAS FI (2010)
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MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION GSR L4 2 GAS FI (2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012)
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MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION MR L4 2 GAS FI (2005, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012)
MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION MR TOURING L4 2 GAS FI (2010, 2011)
MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION RS L4 2 GAS FI (2005, 2006, 2009)
MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION SE L4 2 GAS FI (2006)
MITSUBISHI LANCER SE SPORTBACK L4 2 GAS FI (2012)
PONTIAC G8 GXP V8 6,2 GAS FI (2009)
PONTIAC G8 V6 3,6 GAS FI (2008, 2009)
SUBARU IMPREZA WRX STI H4 2,5 GAS FI (2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013)
SUBARU IMPREZA WRX STI LIMITED H4 2,5 GAS FI (2007, 2011, 2012, 2013)
VOLVO S60 R L5 2,5 GAS FI (2004, 2005, 2006, 2007)
VOLVO V70 R L5 2,5 GAS FI (2004, 2005, 2006, 2007)


300 bucks is a lot of scratch for pads, but it's well worth it if does what IHC says.
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IHC - I guess you'd recommend the RC5+ for a street driven TL, rather than the RC6s?

Also, would you rock these on front and rear, or is front alone ok, or will that really mess up the bias?

One last thing - these are made by the French - let's hope they don't give up when you need them most, lol!

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