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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 03:08 PM
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Any benefits of the FlashPro basically stock TL S 6MT

Hey guys. I just picked up a 2007 Type S 6 speed.

It's got an intake, and that's it.

Are there any benefits of the FlashPro for me...? If not, Where would be the point at which it is beneficial?

Not really wanting to get a bunch of mods, but I remember my friends Civic SI with just intake and exhaust got big gains with the Reflash, so I figured I'd see about our cars.
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 03:22 PM
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You won't see huge gains even if you had a ton of mods but it's definitely worth it! It's more about improving drivability and you can get rid of the vtec "surge" at the crossover point. It's going to be a bigger difference when you have more mods to smooth out but you can still benefit right away and just tune it each time you add a mod.

If you're looking for a pure 30 hp gain just from tuning you will never see that. Maybe 8-10, but the drivability improvement is very worth it and is under appreciated
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 04:01 PM
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I seem to remember a couple years ago when I began my search for this car that there was something about how they almost de-tune themselves and become sluggish? Is this what you're referring to?

edited to add: On the Hondata website, it mentions that you don't need a tune if you just have basic mods.... So what's the process for install..? Just plug it in and WA LAH, or what?

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I'm not sure what you're referring to about de tuning and being sluggish. I've never read about that. I was talking about the vtec surge. Floor your car and watch how your car jumps at 4700 rpms. With the flashpro it's a very smooth power delivery all the way to redline it feels amazing

Regarding the tunes, I think they have a starting calibration that you can instantly load up but I was one of the first to get flashpro when it was released for the TL and they didn't have that then so I don't know how well it is. Regardless you should always have it tunes for your specific setup. There's a great guy on here named Dom who tunes for a small fee and does an amazing job. He's tuning for most of the heavily modded TL guys in here.
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 06:27 PM
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<p>i think what you're asking is; what is the value of it. What's the dollar to hp ratio and is it worth it for you?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>that question can only be answered by you.<br />no, there will not be big gains. This is for people who have figured out the characteristics of the TL and want to try smooth out the driving experience. as driving experience plays a big part on how well some one likes the car.</p><p>the 6MT version that I own,&nbsp;is pretty high strung and I would love to get her dialed in more precisely&nbsp;</p>
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 07:45 PM
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Visit Hondata.com and read the benefits. Also, there is a thread in the performance section where they discuess about the Hondata and calibrations.


Yes its worth it
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Originally Posted by MilanoRedDashR
Hey guys. I just picked up a 2007 Type S 6 speed.

It's got an intake, and that's it.

Are there any benefits of the FlashPro for me...? If not, Where would be the point at which it is beneficial?

Not really wanting to get a bunch of mods, but I remember my friends Civic SI with just intake and exhaust got big gains with the Reflash, so I figured I'd see about our cars.
The drivability improvement is one of the great gain you will get from it but the best one for me is a knock free car! Mpg will be improve too. And yes it's really plug and play for 07-08 TL
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Old Sep 14, 2015 | 02:12 PM
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My bank account was hoping you guys would talk me out of it... Instead, I'm planning on buying it ASAP.
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Old Sep 14, 2015 | 10:51 PM
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Your going to enjoy it!

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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 03:19 AM
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I would like to know your reaction after you tuned it with the flashpro.

It is still ongoing debate for me to get it or not.
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 08:19 AM
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As others have mentioned, the Flashpro won't give you 30 horsepower, but it is worth it for everything else it does. The Flashpro adjusts ignition, fuel, throttle response, VTec engagement and more. It really changes how the car behaves and feels, and makes it smoother as well as more aggressive. We have great pricing on it! Shoot me a PM for details.
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 10:44 AM
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It's a damn shame it's like $2,000 in hardware for us 04-06 guys...
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 01:57 PM
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^ I agree. I don't have any wild aspirations as far as performance mods, but it certainly would be nice if there was a sub-$500 option to fine tune the 04-06s after mods have been made.
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 01:58 PM
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$200/HP steep, but the TL is expensive like that
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 02:43 PM
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Gotta pay to play. I just miss the old days when you grabbed a cheap P28 and went to town. Lol
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 05:12 PM
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ignition, fuel, throttle response, VTec engagement and etcs.

I'm a amateur who doesn't even know what those all means...
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Old Sep 16, 2015 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by maharajamd
It's a damn shame it's like $2,000 in hardware for us 04-06 guys...
It's $695 regardless for the Flashpro.

$350 for adapter
$500 for a new TL-S MT ECU from the dealership

How do you get $2,000? must be including tuning?

Our clutch/flywheel cost $900 for OEM stuff, Exhausts are $1,000+, it's just the nature of the beast.

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^ I agree. I don't have any wild aspirations as far as performance mods, but it certainly would be nice if there was a sub-$500 option to fine tune the 04-06s after mods have been made.
I wish this was true, but all flashpro's are $695. If you want sub-$500 options you need to get an old 90's Honda/Acura


To me this was the best mod that I've done to my car. It's over looked because of the cost. Tuning any car is worth the money. $/HP is a bean counters way of looking at it.
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Old Sep 16, 2015 | 01:23 PM
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<p>I set my vehicle on Heeltoe with ECU from Heeltoe + adapter and it came to $2000. Maybe when setting the vehicle year it auto-adds the CAN adapter. Plus it'll still need tuned.</p><p>Regardless, it's still much different than the days of yore. And still basically double the price of the 3.5 gens...</p><p>I'm sure the ECU could be sourced way cheaper. The adapter can be made. eTunes are cheap. But it's still a costly mod.&nbsp;</p><p>Worth it? Totally.&nbsp;</p>
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by maharajamd
<p>I set my vehicle on Heeltoe with ECU from Heeltoe + adapter and it came to $2000. Maybe when setting the vehicle year it auto-adds the CAN adapter. Plus it'll still need tuned.</p><p>Regardless, it's still much different than the days of yore. And still basically double the price of the 3.5 gens...</p><p>I'm sure the ECU could be sourced way cheaper. The adapter can be made. eTunes are cheap. But it's still a costly mod.&nbsp;</p><p>Worth it? Totally.&nbsp;</p>
Good to hear!

Ah ok, yes it's expensive for us 04-06er's . I was and am very happy that we 3Ger's where finally able to have a robust tuning system that was more along the industry standards.

Even for my GSR it's over $500 for an s300 V3 or Demon 2 RTP.
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Old Sep 18, 2015 | 03:17 PM
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I will tell you coming from having the car when I bought with Hondata, it was great to drive...but I couldn't justify keeping it on at the time since my commute was 5 miles round trip.

So i sold it.

Months later, I kinda regret it. I didn't realize how smooth the drive-ability was and how much I was able to accelerate without the surge. I definitely started to notice a difference as time wore on..It doesn't have huge HP gains but the experience is awesome.

Hopefully that helps you out.
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Old Sep 20, 2015 | 08:59 AM
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Wondering if the Flashpro would improve shift characteristics on my Auto 07 Type S.Any first had experience here?
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Old Sep 28, 2015 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by DomGSR-T
The drivability improvement is one of the great gain you will get from it but the best one for me is a knock free car! Mpg will be improve too. And yes it's really plug and play for 07-08 TL
What do you mean a knock free car?
Is the Hondata able to be used with multiple cars? Or do you need to spend that amount with each car?
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Old Sep 28, 2015 | 09:46 AM
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Old Sep 28, 2015 | 10:00 AM
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Bummer, I was hoping for some cost savings there. I use a tool called EFI Live to tune Chevy Duramax trucks and you can tune as many as you want. All you have to do is purchase a vin license for $125 for each vehicle.
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Old Sep 28, 2015 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Attitude
Bummer, I was hoping for some cost savings there. I use a tool called EFI Live to tune Chevy Duramax trucks and you can tune as many as you want. All you have to do is purchase a vin license for $125 for each vehicle.
It's new, but K-Tuner might be able to do that - they list $299 dealer reflashes on 07+ TL and 06-07 Accords.
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Old Sep 29, 2015 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Max Attitude
What do you mean a knock free car?
Is the Hondata able to be used with multiple cars? Or do you need to spend that amount with each car?
the TL is prone to knock on 91-93 octane gas and would need 96+ to be knock free... so tuning is needed on stock map to get rid of this knock.
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try looking into ktuner its 200 cheaper than flashpro and that 200 can be put into a dyno tuning session.

Just an option
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Anyone gone with ktuner yet? Curious...
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I put flashpro on...was on my 6th calibration with an e-tune from Dom. Ran into some snags with the car (looming issues that would have happened eventually anyway) that made me afraid to put the flashpro back on the car. After 4 days driving the car un-tuned....I just had to put it back on the car. The difference in the way the car behaves is very very noticeable.

Basically, no more lagging response or feeling like there's bogging and no power down low...nor bad heat soak...
It's just fantastic.

oh and Dom is the man.
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Old Nov 12, 2019 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by sockr1
I'm not sure what you're referring to about de tuning and being sluggish. I've never read about that. I was talking about the vtec surge. Floor your car and watch how your car jumps at 4700 rpms. With the flashpro it's a very smooth power delivery all the way to redline it feels amazing

Regarding the tunes, I think they have a starting calibration that you can instantly load up but I was one of the first to get flashpro when it was released for the TL and they didn't have that then so I don't know how well it is. Regardless you should always have it tunes for your specific setup. There's a great guy on here named Dom who tunes for a small fee and does an amazing job. He's tuning for most of the heavily modded TL guys in here.
Is Dom available?
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Old Nov 12, 2019 | 11:30 PM
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Is Dom available?
yup he’s still doing many many tunes for others. Send me a pm for his email
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anyone work with sergebo's ECU reflash for the TL? i'm doing the ecu reflash on my tsx as I heard many good things from people, and was thinking of doing it on the TL as well
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Old Sep 20, 2020 | 09:54 PM
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If Dom is still tuning I need his info as well
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Old Oct 14, 2022 | 07:01 AM
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