Any benefits of the FlashPro basically stock TL S 6MT
09-12-2015, 03:08 PM
#1
Any benefits of the FlashPro basically stock TL S 6MT
Hey guys. I just picked up a 2007 Type S 6 speed.
It's got an intake, and that's it.
Are there any benefits of the FlashPro for me...? If not, Where would be the point at which it is beneficial?
Not really wanting to get a bunch of mods, but I remember my friends Civic SI with just intake and exhaust got big gains with the Reflash, so I figured I'd see about our cars.
It's got an intake, and that's it.
Are there any benefits of the FlashPro for me...? If not, Where would be the point at which it is beneficial?
Not really wanting to get a bunch of mods, but I remember my friends Civic SI with just intake and exhaust got big gains with the Reflash, so I figured I'd see about our cars.
09-12-2015, 03:22 PM
#2
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You won't see huge gains even if you had a ton of mods but it's definitely worth it! It's more about improving drivability and you can get rid of the vtec "surge" at the crossover point. It's going to be a bigger difference when you have more mods to smooth out but you can still benefit right away and just tune it each time you add a mod.
If you're looking for a pure 30 hp gain just from tuning you will never see that. Maybe 8-10, but the drivability improvement is very worth it and is under appreciated
If you're looking for a pure 30 hp gain just from tuning you will never see that. Maybe 8-10, but the drivability improvement is very worth it and is under appreciated
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09-12-2015, 04:01 PM
#3
I seem to remember a couple years ago when I began my search for this car that there was something about how they almost de-tune themselves and become sluggish? Is this what you're referring to?
edited to add: On the Hondata website, it mentions that you don't need a tune if you just have basic mods.... So what's the process for install..? Just plug it in and WA LAH, or what?
edited to add: On the Hondata website, it mentions that you don't need a tune if you just have basic mods.... So what's the process for install..? Just plug it in and WA LAH, or what?
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09-12-2015, 05:31 PM
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I'm not sure what you're referring to about de tuning and being sluggish. I've never read about that. I was talking about the vtec surge. Floor your car and watch how your car jumps at 4700 rpms. With the flashpro it's a very smooth power delivery all the way to redline it feels amazing
Regarding the tunes, I think they have a starting calibration that you can instantly load up but I was one of the first to get flashpro when it was released for the TL and they didn't have that then so I don't know how well it is. Regardless you should always have it tunes for your specific setup. There's a great guy on here named Dom who tunes for a small fee and does an amazing job. He's tuning for most of the heavily modded TL guys in here.
Regarding the tunes, I think they have a starting calibration that you can instantly load up but I was one of the first to get flashpro when it was released for the TL and they didn't have that then so I don't know how well it is. Regardless you should always have it tunes for your specific setup. There's a great guy on here named Dom who tunes for a small fee and does an amazing job. He's tuning for most of the heavily modded TL guys in here.
09-12-2015, 06:27 PM
#5
<p>i think what you're asking is; what is the value of it. What's the dollar to hp ratio and is it worth it for you?</p><p> </p><p>that question can only be answered by you.<br />no, there will not be big gains. This is for people who have figured out the characteristics of the TL and want to try smooth out the driving experience. as driving experience plays a big part on how well some one likes the car.</p><p>the 6MT version that I own, is pretty high strung and I would love to get her dialed in more precisely </p>
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09-14-2015, 11:26 AM
#7
Hey guys. I just picked up a 2007 Type S 6 speed.
It's got an intake, and that's it.
Are there any benefits of the FlashPro for me...? If not, Where would be the point at which it is beneficial?
Not really wanting to get a bunch of mods, but I remember my friends Civic SI with just intake and exhaust got big gains with the Reflash, so I figured I'd see about our cars.
It's got an intake, and that's it.
Are there any benefits of the FlashPro for me...? If not, Where would be the point at which it is beneficial?
Not really wanting to get a bunch of mods, but I remember my friends Civic SI with just intake and exhaust got big gains with the Reflash, so I figured I'd see about our cars.
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09-15-2015, 08:19 AM
#11
Former Sponsor
As others have mentioned, the Flashpro won't give you 30 horsepower, but it is worth it for everything else it does. The Flashpro adjusts ignition, fuel, throttle response, VTec engagement and more. It really changes how the car behaves and feels, and makes it smoother as well as more aggressive. We have great pricing on it! Shoot me a PM for details. 
09-15-2015, 10:44 AM
#12
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It's a damn shame it's like $2,000 in hardware for us 04-06 guys...
09-15-2015, 01:57 PM
#13
^ I agree. I don't have any wild aspirations as far as performance mods, but it certainly would be nice if there was a sub-$500 option to fine tune the 04-06s after mods have been made.
09-15-2015, 01:58 PM
#14
Suzuka Master
$200/HP steep, but the TL is expensive like that
09-15-2015, 02:43 PM
#15
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Gotta pay to play. I just miss the old days when you grabbed a cheap P28 and went to town. Lol
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09-16-2015, 12:50 PM
#17
Burning Brakes
It's $695 regardless for the Flashpro.
$350 for adapter
$500 for a new TL-S MT ECU from the dealership
How do you get $2,000? must be including tuning?
Our clutch/flywheel cost $900 for OEM stuff, Exhausts are $1,000+, it's just the nature of the beast.
I wish this was true, but all flashpro's are $695. If you want sub-$500 options you need to get an old 90's Honda/Acura 
To me this was the best mod that I've done to my car. It's over looked because of the cost. Tuning any car is worth the money.
$/HP is a bean counters way of looking at it.
$350 for adapter
$500 for a new TL-S MT ECU from the dealership
How do you get $2,000? must be including tuning?
Our clutch/flywheel cost $900 for OEM stuff, Exhausts are $1,000+, it's just the nature of the beast.
To me this was the best mod that I've done to my car. It's over looked because of the cost. Tuning any car is worth the money.
$/HP is a bean counters way of looking at it.
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09-16-2015, 01:23 PM
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<p>I set my vehicle on Heeltoe with ECU from Heeltoe + adapter and it came to $2000. Maybe when setting the vehicle year it auto-adds the CAN adapter. Plus it'll still need tuned.</p><p>Regardless, it's still much different than the days of yore. And still basically double the price of the 3.5 gens...</p><p>I'm sure the ECU could be sourced way cheaper. The adapter can be made. eTunes are cheap. But it's still a costly mod. </p><p>Worth it? Totally. </p>
09-17-2015, 12:52 PM
#19
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<p>I set my vehicle on Heeltoe with ECU from Heeltoe + adapter and it came to $2000. Maybe when setting the vehicle year it auto-adds the CAN adapter. Plus it'll still need tuned.</p><p>Regardless, it's still much different than the days of yore. And still basically double the price of the 3.5 gens...</p><p>I'm sure the ECU could be sourced way cheaper. The adapter can be made. eTunes are cheap. But it's still a costly mod. </p><p>Worth it? Totally. </p>
Ah ok, yes it's expensive for us 04-06er's
. I was and am very happy that we 3Ger's where finally able to have a robust tuning system that was more along the industry standards. Even for my GSR it's over $500 for an s300 V3 or Demon 2 RTP.
09-18-2015, 03:17 PM
#20
I will tell you coming from having the car when I bought with Hondata, it was great to drive...but I couldn't justify keeping it on at the time since my commute was 5 miles round trip.
So i sold it.
Months later, I kinda regret it. I didn't realize how smooth the drive-ability was and how much I was able to accelerate without the surge. I definitely started to notice a difference as time wore on..It doesn't have huge HP gains but the experience is awesome.
Hopefully that helps you out.
So i sold it.
Months later, I kinda regret it. I didn't realize how smooth the drive-ability was and how much I was able to accelerate without the surge. I definitely started to notice a difference as time wore on..It doesn't have huge HP gains but the experience is awesome.
Hopefully that helps you out.
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09-28-2015, 09:39 AM
#22
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Is the Hondata able to be used with multiple cars? Or do you need to spend that amount with each car?
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09-28-2015, 10:00 AM
#24
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Bummer, I was hoping for some cost savings there. I use a tool called EFI Live to tune Chevy Duramax trucks and you can tune as many as you want. All you have to do is purchase a vin license for $125 for each vehicle.
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06-30-2016, 06:20 AM
#29
I put flashpro on...was on my 6th calibration with an e-tune from Dom. Ran into some snags with the car (looming issues that would have happened eventually anyway) that made me afraid to put the flashpro back on the car. After 4 days driving the car un-tuned....I just had to put it back on the car. The difference in the way the car behaves is very very noticeable.
Basically, no more lagging response or feeling like there's bogging and no power down low...nor bad heat soak...
It's just fantastic.
oh and Dom is the man.
Basically, no more lagging response or feeling like there's bogging and no power down low...nor bad heat soak...
It's just fantastic.
oh and Dom is the man.
11-12-2019, 12:07 AM
#30
I'm not sure what you're referring to about de tuning and being sluggish. I've never read about that. I was talking about the vtec surge. Floor your car and watch how your car jumps at 4700 rpms. With the flashpro it's a very smooth power delivery all the way to redline it feels amazing
Regarding the tunes, I think they have a starting calibration that you can instantly load up but I was one of the first to get flashpro when it was released for the TL and they didn't have that then so I don't know how well it is. Regardless you should always have it tunes for your specific setup. There's a great guy on here named Dom who tunes for a small fee and does an amazing job. He's tuning for most of the heavily modded TL guys in here.
Regarding the tunes, I think they have a starting calibration that you can instantly load up but I was one of the first to get flashpro when it was released for the TL and they didn't have that then so I don't know how well it is. Regardless you should always have it tunes for your specific setup. There's a great guy on here named Dom who tunes for a small fee and does an amazing job. He's tuning for most of the heavily modded TL guys in here.
11-28-2019, 08:41 AM
#33
Instructor
anyone work with sergebo's ECU reflash for the TL? i'm doing the ecu reflash on my tsx as I heard many good things from people, and was thinking of doing it on the TL as well
09-22-2020, 11:58 AM
#35
@DomGSR-T
IIRC
otherwise email him at domgsr-t@hotmail.com
no dick pics, please though. He charges double to tune if you send those.
I learned the hard way.
@epiratej
IIRC
otherwise email him at domgsr-t@hotmail.com
no dick pics, please though. He charges double to tune if you send those.
I learned the hard way.
@epiratej
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