Acurazine's first True Dual Exhaust on the 3G TL - (Updated Vids-Pg. 4)
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^^^ I will be @ the San Antonio meet in Austin on Saturday and will have someone take some clips 
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i want in...lol... of course its gonna be on a closed track with profesional drivers
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Anil, I know you told me why it was gonna be expensive when we saw each other last, but I had a few beers that night and dont remember. 17-1800 seems like a ton of money for some SS tubing and some Mag mufflers.
You know Im not hating, just didnt want you to get ripped off. There is a shop here in NKC that said they would do a true dual on my buddy's Accord for like 450. Granted that wasnt SS tubing.
Either way your setup looks badass and I cant wait to hear it. Have fun in TX and rep KC good.
You know Im not hating, just didnt want you to get ripped off. There is a shop here in NKC that said they would do a true dual on my buddy's Accord for like 450. Granted that wasnt SS tubing. Either way your setup looks badass and I cant wait to hear it. Have fun in TX and rep KC good.
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Cool.
You asked about pros/cons of unequal length pipe.
I'm no expert (not by a long shot) but I'm going to say one con is that the exhaust pressure waves are going to reach the X-muffler at different times. I think this could create some resonant frequencies. It may partly explain why you have drone/rasp coming and going at different points in the rpm range.
You asked about pros/cons of unequal length pipe.
I'm no expert (not by a long shot) but I'm going to say one con is that the exhaust pressure waves are going to reach the X-muffler at different times. I think this could create some resonant frequencies. It may partly explain why you have drone/rasp coming and going at different points in the rpm range.
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what was i thinking....
lets all have like a small drag race wish granted
goes without saying doesnt it
Anil, I know you told me why it was gonna be expensive when we saw each other last, but I had a few beers that night and dont remember. 17-1800 seems like a ton of money for some SS tubing and some Mag mufflers. You know Im not hating, just didnt want you to get ripped off. There is a shop here in NKC that said they would do a true dual on my buddy's Accord for like 450. Granted that wasnt SS tubing. Either way your setup looks badass and I cant wait to hear it. Have fun in TX and rep KC good.
You know Im not hating, just didnt want you to get ripped off. There is a shop here in NKC that said they would do a true dual on my buddy's Accord for like 450. Granted that wasnt SS tubing. Either way your setup looks badass and I cant wait to hear it. Have fun in TX and rep KC good.the labor was 800
parts were 700 (mufflers/piping/bents/flex pipes/hangers/etc)
and taxes were 160 something
Cool.
You asked about pros/cons of unequal length pipe.
I'm no expert (not by a long shot) but I'm going to say one con is that the exhaust pressure waves are going to reach the X-muffler at different times. I think this could create some resonant frequencies. It may partly explain why you have drone/rasp coming and going at different points in the rpm range.
You asked about pros/cons of unequal length pipe.
I'm no expert (not by a long shot) but I'm going to say one con is that the exhaust pressure waves are going to reach the X-muffler at different times. I think this could create some resonant frequencies. It may partly explain why you have drone/rasp coming and going at different points in the rpm range.
Thanks dude....videos are posted below....
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Videos:
I had my girl get some videos of neutral revs and drive off/by....lemme know how it came out....took from am iphone 4....
comments/critics welcome
PS: I know the tips are not aligned well and am going to get that fixed when i get back to KS, so cut that area some slack, will ya....Also, I know this setup is loud and has some drone/rasp so turn ur volume down until i get that fixed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkeNK8iezY4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdhNr1y4gaI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYupTpgqlmo
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I had my girl get some videos of neutral revs and drive off/by....lemme know how it came out....took from am iphone 4....
comments/critics welcome
PS: I know the tips are not aligned well and am going to get that fixed when i get back to KS, so cut that area some slack, will ya....Also, I know this setup is loud and has some drone/rasp so turn ur volume down until i get that fixed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkeNK8iezY4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdhNr1y4gaI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYupTpgqlmo
MODS: Can you please update the thread title to say "Updated Videos on Page 2"....Thanks
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^^^ all a part of learning curve LOL....just figured how to embed video's....thanks for the help thow bro....
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I spoke to the guy who did the setup and we are looking into some options to tone down the rasp/drone and make it sound deeper....
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I sound more annoying since I paid 1800 to get this annoying 
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I might just keep the inequal lengths and throw in couple resonators....
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08-19-2011, 11:54 AM
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I honestly don't mind the sound too much. a lil high-pitched yea, but overall it's not horrible.
I've had 2 B-series: 1 was a GSR with a Skunk2 megapower and a HFC, then the other was an LS/V with a magnaflow w/ 1 resonator and no cat.
your car sounds nothin like either of those too did, they were raspy as fawk. but I'm a lil different than most ppl on here, I don't really mind it too much.
so mad props for the true-dual and bein a pioneer of it. get the tone a lil more deeper and you'll be golden.
I've had 2 B-series: 1 was a GSR with a Skunk2 megapower and a HFC, then the other was an LS/V with a magnaflow w/ 1 resonator and no cat.
your car sounds nothin like either of those too did, they were raspy as fawk. but I'm a lil different than most ppl on here, I don't really mind it too much.
so mad props for the true-dual and bein a pioneer of it. get the tone a lil more deeper and you'll be golden.
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However, I will guess that after the first x-pipe it doesn't matter; you get a new homogeneous wave pattern that has the drone/rasp "built in".
No matter what you do, no modestly powered V-6 is going to have V-8 rumble. What you want to avoid (presumably) is the ricey high pitched 4-Cyl with a tin can sound.
OTOH - everything you add back in to "tame" or "tone" the sound is likely an HP stealer.
BTW - you need to do a legit high rpm flyby at ~60 to 80 mph. That's what I want to hear.
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I've never heard of someone doing 2 X pipes after each other. Honestly I wouldn't try it. Search for it at least before you try it.
I can't hear any of the videos but if you want to tone down the rasp, you need either 1 resonator with dual inlets/outlets as I suggested on the 1st page. The one I suggested, I think 11378 would be okay. It's not that large, but will help reduce the rasp. Or, you could go with 2 small 4in round resonators, whether it be Magnaflow/Dynomax/Vibrant, etc., is up to you.
In terms of losing power, it shouldn't really affect it too much as long as your mufflers are straight through. I doubt you will feel any difference at all. I don't mind slight rasp, I actually like it. But it has to be slight for me to like it. But I'm VERY picky. I've been through 4-5 exhaust setups and still not 100% satisfied.
I can't hear any of the videos but if you want to tone down the rasp, you need either 1 resonator with dual inlets/outlets as I suggested on the 1st page. The one I suggested, I think 11378 would be okay. It's not that large, but will help reduce the rasp. Or, you could go with 2 small 4in round resonators, whether it be Magnaflow/Dynomax/Vibrant, etc., is up to you.
In terms of losing power, it shouldn't really affect it too much as long as your mufflers are straight through. I doubt you will feel any difference at all. I don't mind slight rasp, I actually like it. But it has to be slight for me to like it. But I'm VERY picky. I've been through 4-5 exhaust setups and still not 100% satisfied.
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I honestly don't mind the sound too much. a lil high-pitched yea, but overall it's not horrible.
I've had 2 B-series: 1 was a GSR with a Skunk2 megapower and a HFC, then the other was an LS/V with a magnaflow w/ 1 resonator and no cat.
your car sounds nothin like either of those too did, they were raspy as fawk. but I'm a lil different than most ppl on here, I don't really mind it too much.
so mad props for the true-dual and bein a pioneer of it. get the tone a lil more deeper and you'll be golden.
I've had 2 B-series: 1 was a GSR with a Skunk2 megapower and a HFC, then the other was an LS/V with a magnaflow w/ 1 resonator and no cat.
your car sounds nothin like either of those too did, they were raspy as fawk. but I'm a lil different than most ppl on here, I don't really mind it too much.
so mad props for the true-dual and bein a pioneer of it. get the tone a lil more deeper and you'll be golden.
this girl on the other hand gets mad at me if I slam the door by accident LOL...
No idea. I'm just taking generalities about exhaust and a truly limited understanding of wave mechanics and sound and putting 2? + 2? together. Whether it equals 4 or not, I don't know.
However, I will guess that after the first x-pipe it doesn't matter; you get a new homogeneous wave pattern that has the drone/rasp "built in".
No matter what you do, no modestly powered V-6 is going to have V-8 rumble. What you want to avoid (presumably) is the ricey high pitched 4-Cyl with a tin can sound.
OTOH - everything you add back in to "tame" or "tone" the sound is likely an HP stealer.
BTW - you need to do a legit high rpm flyby at ~60 to 80 mph. That's what I want to hear.
However, I will guess that after the first x-pipe it doesn't matter; you get a new homogeneous wave pattern that has the drone/rasp "built in".
No matter what you do, no modestly powered V-6 is going to have V-8 rumble. What you want to avoid (presumably) is the ricey high pitched 4-Cyl with a tin can sound.
OTOH - everything you add back in to "tame" or "tone" the sound is likely an HP stealer.
BTW - you need to do a legit high rpm flyby at ~60 to 80 mph. That's what I want to hear.
I've never heard of someone doing 2 X pipes after each other. Honestly I wouldn't try it. Search for it at least before you try it.
I can't hear any of the videos but if you want to tone down the rasp, you need either 1 resonator with dual inlets/outlets as I suggested on the 1st page. The one I suggested, I think 11378 would be okay. It's not that large, but will help reduce the rasp. Or, you could go with 2 small 4in round resonators, whether it be Magnaflow/Dynomax/Vibrant, etc., is up to you.
In terms of losing power, it shouldn't really affect it too much as long as your mufflers are straight through. I doubt you will feel any difference at all. I don't mind slight rasp, I actually like it. But it has to be slight for me to like it. But I'm VERY picky. I've been through 4-5 exhaust setups and still not 100% satisfied.
I can't hear any of the videos but if you want to tone down the rasp, you need either 1 resonator with dual inlets/outlets as I suggested on the 1st page. The one I suggested, I think 11378 would be okay. It's not that large, but will help reduce the rasp. Or, you could go with 2 small 4in round resonators, whether it be Magnaflow/Dynomax/Vibrant, etc., is up to you.
In terms of losing power, it shouldn't really affect it too much as long as your mufflers are straight through. I doubt you will feel any difference at all. I don't mind slight rasp, I actually like it. But it has to be slight for me to like it. But I'm VERY picky. I've been through 4-5 exhaust setups and still not 100% satisfied.
1> get the tips aligned
2> add resonators or another 2in-out mufflers (2.25" with NO x crossover)
3> check out the sound....any difference in rasp ?
4> equal length primaries
I think the rasp will be under control plus the sound will be deep....
I am still wanting to see what different length primaries can do....but well thats just me
Thanks for the input fellas....lets see how this comes out....
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I am not a fan of the sound but I am a big fan of you being the guinea pig and learning about a True Dual. I am sure that there will be plenty people reading through this thread and learning what to do and what not to do in order to make their set-ups customized the way that they want it to be...
I for one can't wait to see the continued progress and transformations that you have with your set-up. Keep up the good work Swoosh
I for one can't wait to see the continued progress and transformations that you have with your set-up. Keep up the good work Swoosh
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I am not a fan of the sound but I am a big fan of you being the guinea pig and learning about a True Dual. I am sure that there will be plenty people reading through this thread and learning what to do and what not to do in order to make their set-ups customized the way that they want it to be...
I for one can't wait to see the continued progress and transformations that you have with your set-up. Keep up the good work Swoosh
I for one can't wait to see the continued progress and transformations that you have with your set-up. Keep up the good work Swoosh
U know I thought the same....when you let off the throttle it wants to rumble like a v8 but cant....
thanks bro....will keep u guys updated.....if everything goes well then am looking at some new sounds by next week
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^^^ Thanks bro....I was just posting in the meet thread that you guys were awesome....very warm and hospitable.....wish we cud have raced but well next time 
racing with the GTI, we overshot the Fuddruckers exit LMAO....we had to turn around and come back LOL....
racing with the GTI, we overshot the Fuddruckers exit LMAO....we had to turn around and come back LOL....
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Anil, can't wait to see it in person!
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The muffler upfront has a tru X cross over....I am thinking of adding mufflers to the rear but i have another plan LOL
Thanks Steve....we should meet up sometime
you chickened out dude....hahaha i know....well theres always next time
Thanks Steve....we should meet up sometime
you chickened out dude....hahaha i know....well theres always next time
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Come on over anytime-we'll do the coolant bypass on the Type S.
