I have briefly seen this problem mentioned here and in other forums but never heard of a good explanation or fix for it. When I get into my TL (2004) with my Treo 650 (Verizon), the phone and car pair up every time. However when I make a call from the Treo, it seems as if the Acura wants to connect and have the audio go through the car's speakers but instead, the audio is only through the Treo. So, I have to call either voice mail or a phone # where I know nobody will answer for the first call in the car and then hang up. Afterwards, for every other call, the audio goes through the car's speakers.

Also, if I try calling through the Acura (ie. dial a number from the Acura phone book) as the first call when I get in the car, the Treo resets itself. If I dial a number through the Treo first and hang up, I can call through the Acura without a problem.

It seems as if the pairing of the Acura and the Treo isn't really completed until a call is made from the Treo first.

Any ideas??

 

I believe it is because the Treo 650 is not compatable with the Acura's Handsfreelink system according to the Handsfeelink Web site.

 

acording to palm one it is. mine works perfect every time. but it's with sprint and i had to update the phone.

 

My wife's Verizon 650 works fine pretty much every time...sounds like we're lucky. I wonder if some common third-party app is causing this first-call problem, 'cause you're not the only who's experienced it, but not everyone has...weird...frustrating.

 

Have you installed the latest firmware?

 

There is no firmware update as of yet for the Verizon version of the 650.

 

Oh I see, didn't know that.

 

I have a Cingular version 650 and any previous issue I had were fix as soon as I downloaded the Carkit update from palmone.com

carkit update for treo 650

 

Apparently, that update is only for Sprint and GSM phones.

 

I've been trying to get my Sprint Treo 650 to work reliably. I have poor sound quality and pairing issues. I tried the update from Palmone's site but I can't tell if it did anything more to bluetooth than turn on BLuetooth DUN. Would you mind sharing the version number for the bluetooth manager with us as well as what update you applied?

I know the problem is with the TREO because I have other phones paired with the car (Sprint's bluetooth LG and a Cingular bluetooth moto). Also, it seems like the brief time while i am waiting for the call to go thru, i get feedback noise so strong I am afraid of blowing a speaker.

Am I alone here?

 

Just found this on the Palm site:

"If you have paired your Treo 650 with the Acura (or Honda) car kit (called HandsFreeLink TM), the first outgoing call dialed on your handset immediately after pairing may not be transferred to the car kit. If this happens, try dialing the call from the car kit. Alternatively, try an incoming call by having someone call your number. Now, you must hear the call in the car. Try dialing again on your Treo 650."

A bug or a feature... you decide!

 

the update was 1.12 i'm not sure what the bluetooth manager is, (i forget my phone in the car all the time now because of the HFL) but i'll post as soon as i get a chance.

what pairing issues and sound quality issues are you talking about?

at the start of each call (dailing out) there is this ANNOYING whine, while it connects. I wish that Palm put bluetooth 1.2 instead of 1.1 in it, theoretically it would connect faster and reduce the screetching sound from the speakers. As far as sound quality, i personally think it's amazing, calls come through clear, and people on the otherside have no idea i'm talking on a hands fee kit.

question, where are you placing the phone?

suggestion - Hot-sync your phone entirely to your computer so you have a back-up, then hard reset the phone. the update should still be in effect, if you're using sprint it's 1.12. pair your phone again (making sure it's discoverable) and try it again... it might be a third party app that's messing with you bluetooth. A lot of third party programs were @^!%@ up my treo, random restarts, pairing issues, wierd stuff.

hopefully everything will work and you can start adding programs back into your palm.

 

Palmone has released a ROM update for the Verizon Treo 650: http://www.palm.com/us/support/downl...r/verizon.html. I am hesitant to try it myself when it works fine now (albeit without battery and signal strength) while many, if not most, Verizon owners complain of the first dropped call issue. But if you're having problems, might be worth a try. Involves a hard reset.

 

i have the cingular 650 and I have many problems with it. First, i purchased 1GB memory card for mp3'z and when i insert them, it sometimes resets itself. Secondy, when i a get a call.. it'll reset itself once i pick it up.. last, when im putting music onto my SD through the usb cable.. and i play it on the mp3 player on the 650. the music scrambles and sounds all messed up and then the phone resets itself again!!! this didnt happen before I bought the SD.. Do you think the SD is causing it? **NO bluetooth problems**

 

Thanks for the alert on the new link, but the only issues addressed according to the notes there are:

- Latest version of Wireless Sync email application software
- Internal settings modification to allow correct access to Verizon Wireless roaming partner networks

Nothing about addressing potential Bluetooth issues

 

In my '04 with a Sprint Treo650, the first call initiated from the handset *never* goes through the HFL. I have to hit the talk button on the steering wheel and say "transfer", then it picks up the call. Every call after this goes right to the HFL. As far as initiating dialing from the HFL, if I do this, it will begin to dial and reset my Treo everytime. Oddly enough, when I first paired the phone up with the system, I did initiate a couple of calls from the HFL with no problems, but ever since then it resets when I try. I have unpaired and repaired the phone a number of times, with the same results every time. These behaviors happened before and after the 1.12 update. The only difference in behavior that I have seen after the 1.12 update is that I now see the signal strength indicator on the MID also (caller ID always worked).

 

I realize that and should have mentioned it. But...you never know what other little tweaks, whether intended or not, might come with it. For example, at Treocentral people are reporting the "add to contacts?" prompt is now gone after the update, but that's not one of the issues listed. I'm simply suggesting that if nothing else works, it might be worth trying...after you assess the risks.

 

Indeed, post 34 in this thread: http://discuss.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=90874 states: "I also find that bluetooth pairing with my BMW B60 (previously with known problems pairing with Treo 650) went much smoother."

I have no idea what a BMW B60 is.

 

I'm running that update. But there seems to be a question as to whether or not bluetooth updates are actually included with this update.

This sounds like my issue. it's really loud and I am afraid I will blow something (be it my speakers or my eardrums).

I've tried this, and it seems like it pairs more reliably (as long as the phone is unlocked). I thought i read that the update for bluetooth has a setting that allows trusted devices to wake up the phone. Anyone see this?

 

- pairing is fine
- receiving calls is fine
but once i make a call either using my T650 or HFL, it all goes into disaster. just like batmacura mentioned it's the Treo that's the problem. i've had the siemens S650, the cheapest, crappiest phone i've ever owned (aside from the nokia 5190) and it worked perfect - battery and signal meter. also had an unlocked Nokia 6260, japanese version and it worked without an issue.

now this Treo, the most expensive phone i ever paid for, which comes with the most basic abilities and incompatibility issues with a $35K car - hilarious i tell ya

 

Was it any better before the update?

 

it was worse. the treo kept restarting. so all the upgrate did was fix the restarting issue while it paired itself with HFL

 

Sorry if these questions are repeatative, but just got my verizon treo650 two weeks ago and am experiencing some of the same problems.

1. Was you phone doing a soft reboot when trying to make an outgoing call?

2. Signal strength and battery do NOT show up in the display?

3. Loud screaching sound for 2-4 seconds at the beginning of a call (when connecting)?

4. What version of the palm do you currently run - 1.3 or 1.4 for Verizon?

Did the upgrade solve any or all of these problems? I just got eveything set up on my phone and would hate to go through redoing everything for it not to make a difference.

Any help/information would be very much appreciated!!!!

 

Sorry Question 4 should be 1.03 or 1.04!!!