Small cameras on side-view mirrors
#1
Small cameras on side-view mirrors
OK, so hear me out.
With the new 2013 Accords getting small cameras on each side-view mirror and activated when the turn signal is on, I wonder if it could be done to a TL.
You would already have power going to a video camera through the turn signal indicator on 2007-2008 models because they already have the integrated mirror turn signals on the side-view mirrors. The only thing you would need is a video unit like from DOM or AVElectronic to integrate into the navigation screen.
The only other thing that I wonder if the electronic signal from the mirror turn signal indicator itself. Is it constant like in the Accord or would the video screen go on and off in relation to the turn-signal?
I might consider doing this project and crafting a camera housing for this if the electronic signal is constant. I would just need two small cameras to place under the turn signal indicators.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TaoTronics-H...item27caf85d6b
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170-Mini-Ant...item19d3ce5e3c
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAR-REAR-VIE...ht_2432wt_1125 (I like this one the best)
Thoughts?
With the new 2013 Accords getting small cameras on each side-view mirror and activated when the turn signal is on, I wonder if it could be done to a TL.
You would already have power going to a video camera through the turn signal indicator on 2007-2008 models because they already have the integrated mirror turn signals on the side-view mirrors. The only thing you would need is a video unit like from DOM or AVElectronic to integrate into the navigation screen.
The only other thing that I wonder if the electronic signal from the mirror turn signal indicator itself. Is it constant like in the Accord or would the video screen go on and off in relation to the turn-signal?
I might consider doing this project and crafting a camera housing for this if the electronic signal is constant. I would just need two small cameras to place under the turn signal indicators.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TaoTronics-H...item27caf85d6b
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170-Mini-Ant...item19d3ce5e3c
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAR-REAR-VIE...ht_2432wt_1125 (I like this one the best)
Thoughts?
Last edited by gatrhumpy; 11-07-2012 at 07:06 AM.
#2
06 Anthracite TL
Your plan is doable but probably expensive and a lot of installation work. It sounds like you're trying to eliminate the blind spots, right?
I have the Multivex mirrors on my TL for the same purpose- cheap, low tech, easy installation, and does the job of eliminating the blind spot beautifully. I really don't know why they aren't factory installed on all cars, instead of an electronic blind spot warning system which costs $$$ and can be annoying to see the lights activating all the time.
I have the Multivex mirrors on my TL for the same purpose- cheap, low tech, easy installation, and does the job of eliminating the blind spot beautifully. I really don't know why they aren't factory installed on all cars, instead of an electronic blind spot warning system which costs $$$ and can be annoying to see the lights activating all the time.
#3
Your plan is doable but probably expensive and a lot of installation work. It sounds like you're trying to eliminate the blind spots, right?
I have the Multivex mirrors on my TL for the same purpose- cheap, low tech, easy installation, and does the job of eliminating the blind spot beautifully. I really don't know why they aren't factory installed on all cars, instead of an electronic blind spot warning system which costs $$$ and can be annoying to see the lights activating all the time.
I have the Multivex mirrors on my TL for the same purpose- cheap, low tech, easy installation, and does the job of eliminating the blind spot beautifully. I really don't know why they aren't factory installed on all cars, instead of an electronic blind spot warning system which costs $$$ and can be annoying to see the lights activating all the time.
Not going to do it unless the video feed is constant and not blinking in relation to the blinking LED turn signal indicator.
Won't really be that expensive. I can get two cameras for under $50. I just have to find the DOM NavandTV2go unit. The wiring I can do myself.
#5
Three Wheelin'
It is illegal in the US. The mirrors we have are mandated by law. Apparently that sort of mirror is standard on some cars out of the US.
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#8
I'm thinking more and more about it. Does anyone know anything about turn signal electrical signals? Is the voltage constant, or is it cyclic in relation to the on and off? Reason why I ask is that I would power the camera directly from the turn signal power. If I get basically a blinking screen for the camera display on the navi screen, I'm not doing this project. However, if the voltage is constant the the LED blinks, then I could hook up a camera to each turn signal. Every time I turn on my turn signal, BAM! the video comes on the navi screen.
I just need to confirm this before I start looking for a DOM NAVandTV2Go unit.
I just need to confirm this before I start looking for a DOM NAVandTV2Go unit.
#10
So if I strip out some of the wife from the positive and negative wires of the blinking light and connect the video camera power wires to it, they should work constantly, right? O would I have to connect them before the relay?
Need to find a NavandTV2Go unit soon!
Need to find a NavandTV2Go unit soon!
#12
According to the wiring diagram, the left front turn signal wires are red/blue and black, and the right front turn signal wires are white and black.
In order to get out the turn signals you have to remove the entire door panel. Not really a problem.
In order to get out the turn signals you have to remove the entire door panel. Not really a problem.
#13
I might have to try it, depending on how hard it is to get to the rear tail lights. I would just hook up a voltmeter to DC volts on the tail lights and see if the numbers alternate. If they do, so would the video screen (come on and off on the navi screen).
#16
The turn signal power will blink at the mirror but if you intercept the power signal from the turn signal switch from the steering wheel is 12 volt at all time when the turn signal is on.
#22
I have the acura tl 08 . 07. Repair manual let me see
Left turn signal wire color from the switch is black / Lt green
Right turn signal wire color from the switch is Orange / white.
From the turn signal relay behind the inside fuse box are. Left red/blue and right is white.
Left turn signal wire color from the switch is black / Lt green
Right turn signal wire color from the switch is Orange / white.
From the turn signal relay behind the inside fuse box are. Left red/blue and right is white.
Last edited by Steven Bell; 11-10-2012 at 12:59 PM. Reason: Merged Posts
#23
I'm reading the Haynes manual now, and it looks like the turn signal light switch is embedded in the combination light switch. There are three wires coming out of the combination light switch: BLK/GRN, ORG/WHT, and BLK. They go to the combination switch control unit. If I did this, I would tie into those three wires.
The left camera would be connected as follows:
LEFT CAMERA SWITCH
+ (positive) --------> BLK/GRN
- (negative)--------> BLK
RIGHT CAMERA SWITCH
+ (positive) --------> ORG/WHT
- (negative)--------> BLK
Now, I have an idea of the cameras I would use, where to make connections, HOW to make the connections, but now I need a way to hook up the video connections, like a DOMs NAVandTV2Go unit.
Edit: Why, oh why, do I have to remove the door panel for this project? Apparently you don't for the 1999-2003 models! Ugh.
Last edited by gatrhumpy; 11-09-2012 at 09:09 PM.
#26
Racer
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These have been discounted probably cuz there wasn't much of a market for them that and Eclipse is no longer for sale in the US but here....
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-cEyF4WN...se-FEC106.html
You might be able to find them on ebay
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-cEyF4WN...se-FEC106.html
You might be able to find them on ebay
Last edited by 05AcTL; 11-09-2012 at 10:01 PM.
#27
There's already 12 volts in the doors no need to run power inside the car... Window switches prob heating element in the mirrors too. Many possibilities!
Pretty sure accord only has cam on right mirror btw... Hopefully Rlx will have on both cuz I like symmetry too
Pretty sure accord only has cam on right mirror btw... Hopefully Rlx will have on both cuz I like symmetry too
#29
power the cameras the whole time... its the video switching that's the prob. Turn signal before relay to dom unit or whatever has the trigger. No extra wiring through door required. Except the video signal itself.
#31
2nd you will need a trigger no matter what.
#32
I think you would be turning the camera's "on and off" quite a few more time without a constant source, so component life probably the same either way. (and 11 dollars on ebay so if they do go bad... easy replacement) I have a 6 dollar webcam from Ebay I use as a baby monitor in my car that's still going strong a yr later and it has IR so I know it's always on. Different voltage but the concept still valid.
2nd you will need a trigger no matter what.
2nd you will need a trigger no matter what.
#38
The trigger would be the turn signal to turn on the cameras, like a rear-view camera. I want that particular camera to turn on when I put on the turn signal, not both at the same time. I've decided I'm going to do this project, I just need an AV switcher like DOM's NAVandTV2GO unit. Finding those are hard!
Also, I haven't seen anything with more then one triggered switching input. So dual cams will be a PITA, some sort of relay network could get the job done but it'll take more planning than I want to do now.
I've sort of run into the same problem. I want to run nav on my aftermarket screen but have the stock back up camera come on automatically whether Im using the pc or the nav.
Devils always in the details somewhere.
#39
You are talking about powering the camera. You need a trigger wire to switch input from nav to the camera. this can be done with a simple switch (pointless for quick use and oem functionality) or tapping into signal circuit. Before the relay is what you want... if tapped after it will continually switch from nav to camera as your signal lights flash.
Also, I haven't seen anything with more then one triggered switching input. So dual cams will be a PITA, some sort of relay network could get the job done but it'll take more planning than I want to do now.
I've sort of run into the same problem. I want to run nav on my aftermarket screen but have the stock back up camera come on automatically whether Im using the pc or the nav.
Devils always in the details somewhere.
Also, I haven't seen anything with more then one triggered switching input. So dual cams will be a PITA, some sort of relay network could get the job done but it'll take more planning than I want to do now.
I've sort of run into the same problem. I want to run nav on my aftermarket screen but have the stock back up camera come on automatically whether Im using the pc or the nav.
Devils always in the details somewhere.
Each unit has a separate function for a rearview camera to come on every time the car is placed into reverse. Instead of reverse, I'll power and switch the cameras by turning on my turn signals.
Last edited by gatrhumpy; 11-14-2012 at 07:41 PM.