I'd like to add a sub without loosing 2 much space
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I'd like to add a sub without loosing 2 much space
As the title states, I'd love to add a little more bottom end without sacraficing a ton of trunk space. I use to have a Dual 8" JL Band Pass Box in my Odyssey with 500 watts pushing it and it sounded fantastic. Any ideas would be appreciated as trunk space is a premium for me.
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Tough question,
I installed the JL HO110W6 paired with a JL 250-1 wich takes up my trunk from the back seat to just before the beginning of the smaller fold up flap for the spare (so I can still access it). I still have lots of space for groceries but my trunk space is not that important to me.
Very powerful bass and I have the amp turned down to it's lowest sensitivity so I guess I could have gone with a smaller box.
I guess it depends of what you're expecting from the sub in the end.
I installed the JL HO110W6 paired with a JL 250-1 wich takes up my trunk from the back seat to just before the beginning of the smaller fold up flap for the spare (so I can still access it). I still have lots of space for groceries but my trunk space is not that important to me.
Very powerful bass and I have the amp turned down to it's lowest sensitivity so I guess I could have gone with a smaller box.
I guess it depends of what you're expecting from the sub in the end.
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Originally Posted by Black_05_TL_6SP
That's Beautiful
Much like the stealth boxes JL makes for some models (not the TL, unfortunately), you could probably seel a few of these of you had the time to build them
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Originally Posted by lembowski
U know if you have the time to make these I bet you would get quite a few ordered off you......just a $ making idea. I wish I had the know how to work with fiberglass. But, just persuing your thread if you do decied to make a box for the 10" let me know......I'll take the dual 8" box off your hands
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Originally Posted by Black_05_TL_6SP
So my installer is telling me he can make the same box for about $300. I am having one built next week. Will post pics when it is done.
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OMG!!! I want it! I have two huge audiobahns (aw1208t) and a huge box and it bumps like crazy, but I can barely slide my folder and school books behind it. I know those treo's have major bump, and your sh!t takes up so little space its making me jealous. Good sh!t JMLAudio-
JML
That set up is BAD AZZ!! Do you have navi? If so is that the unit for the nav disc next to the changer? Also did you do the intall yourself? either way very nice set up
That set up is BAD AZZ!! Do you have navi? If so is that the unit for the nav disc next to the changer? Also did you do the intall yourself? either way very nice set up
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Originally Posted by JMLAudio
Just an idea of another option if space is an issue this is for 2 12's
Sweet, but I'm sure the sticks won't fit.
Has anyone used a pickup truck box in the TL. I don't need anything that is show quality and would like to be able to remove it easily should the need arise.
Originally Posted by hondafan
Sweet, but I'm sure the sticks won't fit.
Has anyone used a pickup truck box in the TL. I don't need anything that is show quality and would like to be able to remove it easily should the need arise.
Has anyone used a pickup truck box in the TL. I don't need anything that is show quality and would like to be able to remove it easily should the need arise.
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From: Alabama
Originally Posted by lembowski
Yeah, the only thing keeping me from putting any speakers in is making sure the ping's fit in the back. I'm looking at getting one of those infinity basslink II, they have 250 watts and my friend has one in his 330i and it sounds awesome.
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Originally Posted by Black_05_TL_6SP
Thats why I did mine the way that I did, I have no problems get the clubs in the trunk. Can't give up the room for that!!!!
Anybody have a picture of the Bass link? It does have a built amp, right?
Originally Posted by hondafan
That's exactly why I liked yours, but since you are not making any more or have in depth instructions on how to build one, I'm SOL.
Anybody have a picture of the Bass link? It does have a built amp, right?
Anybody have a picture of the Bass link? It does have a built amp, right?
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How to make yourself a sub box...DIY instructions here....
http://www.ajquick.com/cars/tutorials/fiberglass.php
Here you go, if you've worked with fiberglass before then this will all make sense, if not, you're in for some real fun!
http://www.ajquick.com/cars/tutorials/fiberglass.php
Here you go, if you've worked with fiberglass before then this will all make sense, if not, you're in for some real fun!
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Originally Posted by gqchicago
How to make yourself a sub box...DIY instructions here....
http://www.ajquick.com/cars/tutorials/fiberglass.php
Here you go, if you've worked with fiberglass before then this will all make sense, if not, you're in for some real fun!
http://www.ajquick.com/cars/tutorials/fiberglass.php
Here you go, if you've worked with fiberglass before then this will all make sense, if not, you're in for some real fun!
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Originally Posted by hondafan
Thanks. Looks pretty involved. I guess I need to decide if I'm going to keep or sell my car
Good luck!
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To answer some of the questions to us. Yes, that is the factory navigation unit to the right of the CD Changer in that TL set up. All of the wiring had to be extended in order to reach. Also the install was done by myself along with the other two system design fabricators I work with. The whole layout after a ton on reasearch and planning took us 3 1/2 weeks of actual fabricating, wiring, and tuning to complete. Any addition questions feel free to send our way either e-mail or phone. Thanks for all the positive feedback we really appreciate it. If any of you are near St. Louis, MO or would like to make the trip out let me know and you can see and HEAR it first hand.
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From: Alabama
Originally Posted by bTwix
Also, consider mounting your amp upside down under the rear deck in the trunk to save space in the trunk.
Good luck!
Good luck!
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Originally Posted by Black_05_TL_6SP
NO NO. Never mount an amp upside down. There is a reason why the heatsinks are on the top of the amp. If you mount it upside down, the heat that it produces will rise into the board and can overheat the amp. You can mount it to the rear deck, but do it with the top up.
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http://www.caraudiotalk.com/audio-fo...ead.php?t=2445
Originally Posted by geolemon
Actually, first and foremost:
No matter which way the amp is mounted, make sure the heatsink is mounted whichever way offers the greatest air exposure.
It's a heatsink - heat flows through it by induction.
It's true that heat rises - but heat flows through a heatsink somewhat regardless of that.
Let's say for whatever reason, you were forced into a situation where you had to mount the amp, say, in a headiner, on the ceiling.
In doing this, you could either choose to mount the amp upside down, or right side up.
In mounting it upside down, the heatsink would be in the interior airspace of the car.
In moutning it right side up, the heatsink would be in a tiny cavity, above the headliner, but nearly touching the metal of the roof structure.
You'd find in this situation, you'd be smarter mounting the amp upside down, because in mounting it right side up, you'd quickly heat up the limited air above the heatsink, essentially potentially creating a little oven above the amp - which would essentially prevent the heatsink from effectively working as a heatsink at all!
That's not to say that this is ideal - but the reason it isn't ideal is due to the choice of mounting locations, not the orientation of the amp!
And on a side note - mounting an amp vertically is actually thermally more ideal than mounting an amp flat, because the heat rising off the heatsink works to create a slight breeze, albeit imperceptible, which helps wick heat off of the heatsink, where a flat mounted amp simply has heat rise off of it.
In reality, either way is more than ideal for an amp with a properly sized heatsink.
No matter which way the amp is mounted, make sure the heatsink is mounted whichever way offers the greatest air exposure.
It's a heatsink - heat flows through it by induction.
It's true that heat rises - but heat flows through a heatsink somewhat regardless of that.
Let's say for whatever reason, you were forced into a situation where you had to mount the amp, say, in a headiner, on the ceiling.
In doing this, you could either choose to mount the amp upside down, or right side up.
In mounting it upside down, the heatsink would be in the interior airspace of the car.
In moutning it right side up, the heatsink would be in a tiny cavity, above the headliner, but nearly touching the metal of the roof structure.
You'd find in this situation, you'd be smarter mounting the amp upside down, because in mounting it right side up, you'd quickly heat up the limited air above the heatsink, essentially potentially creating a little oven above the amp - which would essentially prevent the heatsink from effectively working as a heatsink at all!
That's not to say that this is ideal - but the reason it isn't ideal is due to the choice of mounting locations, not the orientation of the amp!
And on a side note - mounting an amp vertically is actually thermally more ideal than mounting an amp flat, because the heat rising off the heatsink works to create a slight breeze, albeit imperceptible, which helps wick heat off of the heatsink, where a flat mounted amp simply has heat rise off of it.
In reality, either way is more than ideal for an amp with a properly sized heatsink.
http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/IS...fiers_faq.html
Originally Posted by crutchfield
Q: How much air space do I need around my amplifier?
A: An amplifier produces heat, which its heat sink absorbs and dissipates. You should leave a few inches of air space around the amp so that it stays as cool as possible. When mounting an amp on a side wall (vertically), make sure that the fins on the heat sink are also running vertically so the heat escapes more easily. Don't mount an amp upside down — the amp will not be able to dissipate heat effectively, and overheating can damage or destroy your amp!
A: An amplifier produces heat, which its heat sink absorbs and dissipates. You should leave a few inches of air space around the amp so that it stays as cool as possible. When mounting an amp on a side wall (vertically), make sure that the fins on the heat sink are also running vertically so the heat escapes more easily. Don't mount an amp upside down — the amp will not be able to dissipate heat effectively, and overheating can damage or destroy your amp!
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