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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 07:57 AM
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noob question here...Ive yet to burn a dvda --are you burning 99 WAV tracks or 99 mp3 tracks?
I would also assume that it is not 5.1 sound despite being dvda ?
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverJ
noob question here...Ive yet to burn a dvda --are you burning 99 WAV tracks or 99 mp3 tracks?
I would also assume that it is not 5.1 sound despite being dvda ?
The GUI will convert MP3 files to WAV files. Through a process using several different apps integrated in the GUI, those tracks will be formatted to create an image file (ISO). The image file is then burned on a DVD-R disc resulting in a DVD-A. Your assumption is correct - all tracks are 2 Channel Stereo. For 5.1 reproduction, you would need a 5.1 source. There is a thread about 5.1 riping and reproduction.
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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Thanks for the good program!!!
Can you compile it on NET 2.0?
I have VS 2K5 and it's complaining need earlier version of the framework.
Not sure why it's not backword compatible...
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 01:32 PM
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Oh, I take it back...
Just downloaded Framework 1.1. and it seems like it can coexists with 2.0.
Great job and thank you!
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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Holy Crap Batman ! Are those times for real and did it work in the car ? Are those SATA II drives ?
Sorry for the frequent posting..

Here is my timing with 28 songs
Pass1-Making DVD Structure - 45 seconds
Pass1-Making ISO Image - 1:58 seconds
Pass2-Making DVD Structure - 48 seconds
Pass2-Making ISO Image - 2:06 seconds

I have WD SATA Raptor X 2 (hooked up with RAID 0)
Hmm...he must have the similar setup...(if not my Raptors need to be extincted... )
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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Oh, I take it back...
Just downloaded Framework 1.1. and it seems like it can coexists with 2.0.
Great job and thank you!
It's on my to-do and I'm not sure when I'll get to it. I think all I have to do is change the installer but I need to read up on it. I'm pretty sure that 2.0 should be able to run a 1.1 app. I just think my installer needs to be tweaked.
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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great software, thanks!
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Actuary
I just got two raptors on my computer (C and D) and so excited.

WD raptor:
10000RPM / 16MB Cache
2.9ms average seek (that's twice faster than typical 7200rpm drives)

This hard drive saves my ass working on anything. Either video,audio or photoshop. Program load in a blink.


I'm going to time how long it takes to do 99 songs using this program.

Silly me, he has two Raptors...Didn't read the thread throughly....

Anyway, I've tried burning a couple of times on Nero 6 but it didn't do it, but on Nero 7 demo, it did an excellent burn on the first try.
Has this happened to anyone else?
I'm not sure, but it might be the way I did it that failed it on Nero 6.

1. I have .NET version 1.1 and 2.0, both of them on my computer.
2. I've converted the MP3 to Wave using Winamp.
3. File names include Unicode characters (though I've renamed them all still failed)

Any of them might be the cause??
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 03:10 AM
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I don't see anything problemetic with Nero6.... Maybe it just been bad luck.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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i'm going back to non-GUI for now since a lot of my mp3 are not being converted using the GUI version and also it even complains about WAV files that i converted mp3 using Easy-CD file converter... I will give CDEx a try...
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 10:27 PM
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That's interesting. Use "DBPoweramp" to convert them first, that program worked well for me.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 10:05 AM
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I've just finished version 1.0 of a Graphical User Interface (GUI) for my free scripts that many of you are using to create DVD-A discs for the car. No more having to use special directories and run batch programs. The objective was to make the process much easier to run (and for me to learn more about .Net programming).

This new GUI shell will:
  • Let you just drag and drop wav or mp3 files into this program in any of 9 groups
  • Allow you to re-order tracks by selecting them and using up/down buttons. (no more making sure the songs are named a special way to have them sort right)
  • Check you HDD space prior to letting you make an image.
  • Specify your DVD media size and then make sure you don't exceed it.
  • Save projects for later use / Open projects previously saved.
  • Allow you to pick a normalization factor (for mp3->wav decoding)

Here is the home page http://home.comcast.net/~adobeman/DVDAGUI/ Download version 1 and install. System requirements are below in this post.

Please don't expect things to be any faster. Unfortunately the same 2 passes are required as they always were. You still only get an ISO file that you burn with your burning software. Two HDD mode is still supported as well. If you are comfortable with the batch programs you may want to stay with them. It is up to you. It is all still free. For payware I still really like Cirlinca's DVD Audio Solo.

The system requirements are
  • Windows 2000 or Windows XP
  • Microsoft .Net Framework V1.1 or greater. If you have XP and have been keeping up with Windows Update then you have this. Windows 2000 users will also most likely have it.
  • Plenty of hard disc space. You will need 2 to 3 times the size of the DVDA you intend to make. About 2X if you are using all wav file and about 3x if you are using all mp3 files. So for a 4.32 GB (full) DVD single layer disc made from all mp3s you could need up to about 13 GB free space.
  • A computer with 2 separate hard disk drives is recommended. This way you can spread the disk requirements across 2 disks as well as greatly increase performance. Check out the “Options” section for how to set this.

Here is a screen shot http://home.comcast.net/~adobeman/DVDAGUI/image002.jpg

I hope this works out for any of you that try it, especially those who have found the previous scripts a bit too complicated.

Adobeman, This is a great app. Very good work. I am a newbee on this forum - just picked up my '06 TL about a month ago - and have been looking all over for something like this. I just have a question/comment..

Do I need to use a specific type of DVD media - I currently have DVD+R (and DVD+R DL) and I burned the ISO file this morning - no problems burning - but when I tried to play it in the car, it got rejected. Player just ejected the disk. Do I need to use DVD-R?? My other thought - based on previous experiences - is I need to burn all the individual files in the AUDIO_TS Folder instead of the single ISO File.

Anyone else have similar experience??
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 10:43 AM
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I am using Verbatim DVD-Rs and buring the single ISO created by either Adobeman's script or DVD Audio Solo. Have not tried +R or DL discs yet.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 11:51 AM
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...My other thought - based on previous experiences - is I need to burn all the individual files in the AUDIO_TS Folder instead of the single ISO File....
Stick with burning the ISO. The way the ISO is created involves a specific sort order of the files. This means the file system the ISO represents may be different than if you just burned the AUDIO_TS folder alone.

That said, I never tried to just burn the AUDIO_TS folder so you might get lucky and have it work just fine.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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enormus and Adobeman,

Thanks for the info. After reading through a number of these posts I think I am going to try a couple different things... I have some Memorex DVD+R DL disks at home and I will pick up some DVD-R's tonight (sounds like Verbatum is the popular choice) and see if I can get either or both to work. I'll report back with my results.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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enormus and Adobeman,

Thanks for the info. After reading through a number of these posts I think I am going to try a couple different things... I have some Memorex DVD+R DL disks at home and I will pick up some DVD-R's tonight (sounds like Verbatum is the popular choice) and see if I can get either or both to work. I'll report back with my results.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 07:25 PM
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Outstanding job Adobeman! Thanks for taking the time to put this together and for sharing it with us.

I used your script solution before and that worked great. This makes the job even easier.

Like everyone else here, I truly appreciate the time and effort you put into this as well as your willingness to share it with all of us.

This makes the lack of a perfect iPod interface MUCH more bearable.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 09:59 AM
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Thumbs up Reported Success!!

This program is absolutely amazing!! I completed two disks last night/this morning with great success. I used Verbatum 16x DVD-R for Single Layer disks and Memorex DVD+R DL for Dual Layer disks.
Report below...

Software/Tools Used:
CDex v1.51 - Great cd ripper and mp3 -> wav converter (never get errors from this Prog.). I prefer to convert my files separate from Adobeman's program - more success.

Adobeman's GUI DVD-A - Amazing tool!! Great work!!

Roxio Easy Media Creator 7 - I have been using this to burn DVD-Videos for a few months and it works like a charm every time. I had Nero SmartSuite (or something like that) and never had any luck. Roxio works for me so I stick with it.

Plextor PX-716A DL Burner - Works great for burning DVD and CD as long as you match the burn speed with the disks.


Disk1: Compilation disk
This was my first attempt and if you read my earlier posts, I had NO LUCK with Memorex DVD+R disks. The disks burned fine, but would not play in car. Other posts confirmed same experience. So I took the advise of most other people and purchased Verbatum 16x DVD-R disks. First burn worked like a charm and played in TL. Took less than 10 minutes to burn at 16x speed.

Disk 2: Metallica Discography
Thought I would give the Dual Layer disks a try. Happy to report that Memorex DVD+R DL worked GREAT!!
After I got all the files converted to wav using CDex (which only took about 10-15 minutes) I loaded up Adobemans program and let it start chugging away. This was not a quick process to convert 7.4 GB to DVD-A. I started at 7:15pm and the DVD Structure was finished at 9:20pm. Then the ISO file finished at 10:50pm. Then it had to do both again!!?? I went to bed.. It was finished when I got up this morning and I burned the DVD+R DL in about 40 minutes at 2.4x speed. Have to burn DL's at much lower speeds for a good burn. Again, GREAT Success!! I used the 2 HDD method as Adobeman suggested to create the ISO files, but unfortunately for me, my second HDD was in another computer linked through my 54 Kbs wireless network. That might have been a bottleneck...

As far as the discography goes, I broke up each complete album into individual group and used all of the 9 groups.. This is what I fit onto ONE disk:

Group 1: Kill 'em All
Group 2: Ride the Lightning
Group 3: Master of Puppets
Group 4: And Justice for All
Group 5: Black Album
Group 6: Load
Group 7: Re-Load
Group 8: S & M (2 disks)
Group 9: Live Sh*t (3 disks)
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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Thanks for hte info on the DL disk - I have been wondering which one to try.

And a big thank you to Adobeman for this application - I have been using your scripts, but the built in mp3 conversion makes this the best tool I've worked with!
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 04:38 AM
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Thanks Adobeman! The program rocks!

I tried an initial burn on some Sony 8X DVD+R (since you were able to use DVD+R DL, I figured my Taiyo Yuden +Rs should work well) and the system didn't recognize the discs.

I tried another burn on some Sony DVD-RWs and they work perfectly - so if you buy 1 10 pack of Sony DVD-RWs you should be set for life I can find the media code if anybody needs them.

Using a 300GB Maxtor PATA and a 400GB Seagata SATA2 I was able to chop through 4.3GB creation in about 12 minutes (helps to have an overclocked Opteron hehe).

Too bad the system won't read the info tags - guess it's not part of the DVD-A book standard

Now I need to find upgrades for the speakers - the rear sub is weak.
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Old May 4, 2006 | 06:34 PM
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Adobeman's GUI is GREAT! But I have a problem....I burned a DVD-A with multiply groups using Adobeman's GUI program and Nero 6 to a Sony DVD-R.

It plays in my TL, changing groups with "scan" & "rpt" button works fine, BUT while playing several of the tracks, it suddenly skips to the next track. If I backup, replay the track and scan using "cue" past the point where it skipped, it will continue to play but sometimes will skip to the next track later on in the song.

Is this a problem with the Sony DVD-Rs, my TL ('06), or the software (Nero 6 or Adobeman)?

Also, can someone point me to a thread that discusses making 5.1 DVD-A from a concert DVD-Video. I understand you can rip the audio using "DVD Audio Extractor" and convert and burn with "DiscWelder Bronze". Looking for something cheaper than DiscWelder.

THANKS!
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Old May 4, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Ratso
Adobeman's GUI is GREAT! But I have a problem....I burned a DVD-A with multiply groups using Adobeman's GUI program and Nero 6 to a Sony DVD-R.

It plays in my TL, changing groups with "scan" & "rpt" button works fine, BUT while playing several of the tracks, it suddenly skips to the next track. If I backup, replay the track and scan using "cue" past the point where it skipped, it will continue to play but sometimes will skip to the next track later on in the song.

Is this a problem with the Sony DVD-Rs, my TL ('06), or the software (Nero 6 or Adobeman)?

Also, can someone point me to a thread that discusses making 5.1 DVD-A from a concert DVD-Video. I understand you can rip the audio using "DVD Audio Extractor" and convert and burn with "DiscWelder Bronze". Looking for something cheaper than DiscWelder.

THANKS!
It is usually the cd rip quality or speed if it is songs from ripped CDs that we are talking about. The only time this happened to me is when I ripped on a different computer and software that was going really fast compared to my usual one.

Get ya' hands on a copy of the free tool called CDEx. It is great. It also supports "cdparanoia" libraries (check its help) which are supposed to really increase quality. It has never let me down.

If it is mp3->wav converted stuff then I'm not sure. You can try and use CDEx to convert them also instead of my GUI (which uses BeSweet to decode)
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Old May 4, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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Thumbs up Nice work...

Adobeman, can't wait to try it tonight. Just DL'ed.

Got a more technical question for you, which language did you use c# or vb? I'm a .net programmer too wouldn't mind lending a hand should you ever need it.

Nice work!
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Old May 4, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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Awesome work. Thank you.
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Old May 4, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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It is usually the cd rip quality or speed if it is songs from ripped CDs that we are talking about. The only time this happened to me is when I ripped on a different computer and software that was going really fast compared to my usual one.

Get ya' hands on a copy of the free tool called CDEx. It is great. It also supports "cdparanoia" libraries (check its help) which are supposed to really increase quality. It has never let me down.

If it is mp3->wav converted stuff then I'm not sure. You can try and use CDEx to convert them also instead of my GUI (which uses BeSweet to decode)
Thanks for the quick response. This CD was my first using your GUI version and was made up of .mp3 that were ripped on a different computer and converted to wav by yours (BeSweet). Some of the mp3s could have downloaded therefore from several different computers.

The other DVD-A I successfully burned (with your original batch program) was from mp3s ripped from CDs by my computer and converted to wavs by Cool Edit Pro. I had placed all of those songs into one Group.

If I understand you correctly, the problem could be a result of the mp3s being ripped by a different computer (possibly faster than mine) and maybe a different program like CDEx (or maybe Cool Edit Pro) may correct the problem.

Thank you, I will give it another try and let you know what happens.

You da man!
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Old May 6, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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Thanks for the quick response. This CD was my first using your GUI version and was made up of .mp3 that were ripped on a different computer and converted to wav by yours (BeSweet). Some of the mp3s could have downloaded therefore from several different computers.

The other DVD-A I successfully burned (with your original batch program) was from mp3s ripped from CDs by my computer and converted to wavs by Cool Edit Pro. I had placed all of those songs into one Group.

If I understand you correctly, the problem could be a result of the mp3s being ripped by a different computer (possibly faster than mine) and maybe a different program like CDEx (or maybe Cool Edit Pro) may correct the problem.

Thank you, I will give it another try and let you know what happens.

You da man!
You were right on again, Adobeman. I ripped the same MP3s that skipped tracks on the previous DVD again into wav files using Cool Edit Pro 2.0. Then used your GUI version to create the DVD-A image file and burned with Nero 6 and NO SKIPPING! All the groups and tracks play perfectly!

Are you aware of any other programs that will convert 5.1 Dolby tracks extracted from video DVDs to DVD-A other than Discwelder Bronze?

Thanks again!
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Old May 7, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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i have .net 2.0 but your program is asking for 1.1.xxxxx
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Old May 7, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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i have .net 2.0 but your program is asking for 1.1.xxxxx
That is correct and was covered already on page 2 of this thread. You can download the 1.1 Framework from Microsoft. Both 1.1 and 2.0 can coexist on the same computer.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 09:22 AM
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Just made my first DVD-Audio using your new program with gui. It refused to convert some things from mp3 to wav, but overall it worked great in my car. Thanks a lot.
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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Nevermind... Just saw 2 posts above.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 10:39 AM
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Just burned my first DVD-A(dobeman). Missed the note about putting songs in group 1. The hardest thing to use about this program has to be finding all the music to put on here. What an incredible tool. Thanks adobeman!

BTW, is there anyway to drag the files from one group to another?
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 05:26 PM
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Just burned my first DVD-A(dobeman). Missed the note about putting songs in group 1. The hardest thing to use about this program has to be finding all the music to put on here. What an incredible tool. Thanks adobeman!

BTW, is there anyway to drag the files from one group to another?
thanks for the kind words. I always thought the "A" in DVD-A was for "audio"... guess I was wrong

There isn't a way to drag songs from one group to another but if you get in a bind you can try this. It's not for the faint of heart. If you know what XML is and how to read/edit it then you can save your work as a project (File-> Save Project). Then open the project file up in a text editor and make the changes and save it. When you open the project back up it should be rearranged if you edited the XML properly.

If I ever make any changes to the program, and remember this, I'll add it.

Example, take tree songs in group one and redistribute to 3 groups.

Before:
Code:
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<project>
  <product_name>DVDAGUI</product_name>
  <version>1.0.0.0</version>
  <listView1>
    <track>C:\Program Files\Adobeman's DVDA GUI\temp\mysong1.wav</track>
    <track>C:\Program Files\Adobeman's DVDA GUI\temp\mysong2.wav</track>
    <track>C:\Program Files\Adobeman's DVDA GUI\temp\mysong3.wav</track>
  </listView1>
  <listView2 />
  <listView3 />
  <listView4 />
  <listView5 />
  <listView6 />
  <listView7 />
  <listView8 />
  <listView9 />
</project>
After, note how the <listView2 /> and <listView3 /> tags change since they are no longer empty.
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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<project>
  <product_name>DVDAGUI</product_name>
  <version>1.0.0.0</version>
  <listView1>
    <track>C:\Program Files\Adobeman's DVDA GUI\temp\mysong1.wav</track>
  </listView1>
  <listView2>
    <track>C:\Program Files\Adobeman's DVDA GUI\temp\mysong2.wav</track>  
  </listView2>
  <listView3>
    <track>C:\Program Files\Adobeman's DVDA GUI\temp\mysong3.wav</track>  
  </listView3>
  <listView4 />
  <listView5 />
  <listView6 />
  <listView7 />
  <listView8 />
  <listView9 />
</project>
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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This is awesome!

I tried it and it worked! Well only half way. I mean it plays in my DVD player but when i stick it in my car... my TL baby spits the disc back out. I was using Nero 6 Ultra. Don't know what I'm doing wrong, though.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by gatdammit
I tried it and it worked! Well only half way. I mean it plays in my DVD player but when i stick it in my car... my TL baby spits the disc back out. I was using Nero 6 Ultra. Don't know what I'm doing wrong, though.

What type of disks are you using... For it to work in the TL you need to use Verbatum 16X DVD-R Single Layer Disks. If you want to use Dual Layer Disks, I recommend Memorex DVD+R DL Disks. I have used both disks and they work fine in the car. It is most likely the media you are using.

Hope that helps!!
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:05 AM
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Thanks again very much for creating this, used GUI Free DVDA last night and worked flawlessly. Keep up the excellent work!
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:12 AM
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i don't know if this has already been answered, but won't the quality be the same as an high-bitrate mp3 (which is less than CD still)?
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by azurepalm
i don't know if this has already been answered, but won't the quality be the same as an high-bitrate mp3 (which is less than CD still)?
Not sure exactly what the question is but I'll take a stab. The quality will be equal to the quality of the input. If you use rip CDs to wav then the quality will be as good as the original CD. If you use mp3s as input then the quality will be just about the same as the original mp3. There is a slight loss of quality sometimes when the mp3 gets converted to wav. Probably not noticeable.
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by azurepalm
i don't know if this has already been answered, but won't the quality be the same as an high-bitrate mp3 (which is less than CD still)?
The result will only be as good as the source. So if you're using a low bit rate MP3, say 128 bit, then it will sound like a 128 bit MP3. MP3's are lossy so anything lost while converting to an MP3 will not be recovered when converting to a WAV file. To me a 320 bit MP3 sounds about the same as a CD. You might be fine with 192 bit. If you have the original CD you are better off ripping WAVs directly from there. The resulting file sizes of a converted MP3 and the direct CD rip will be almost the same but the MP3 will never sound better.

And Adobeman, thanks for this awsome tool. I can't wait to try it out. :gheywave:
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 04:37 PM
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Adobeman, great program. I am not sure if this question has been brought up but:
I am having a problem with the scn/rpt switching to other groups. I am using tdk dvd-r on a 2006 TL. The first group played like a charm. Any suggestions what i may be doing wrong? Thanks..
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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My fault!!!!! Just in case any other boneheads don't figure it out... you have to hold the scn/rpt buttons for a second or 2. Sorry for the post.
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