DVD-A.... my my image(iso) file is so small???

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Old 03-27-2008, 10:49 PM
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DVD-A.... my my image(iso) file is so small???

I finally managed to make multi-channels WAV files.

I used DVDA program that mentioned below to make iso file.

well in my knowlege... the file should be over 4.9GB.

mine came out to 897KB........WTF...
Old 03-27-2008, 11:35 PM
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ok

here's how I did.... please make CORRECTION if there is any

1) I made .wav files from .mp3 by using third party program called 'mp3towav'

2) I put those .wav files into 2channelsource foler in Adobinizer.

3) It created multichannel .wav files. (each sized about 100~120 MB)

4) I put those mutilchannel'd .wav files to DVDA\WAVs folder

5) I ran makedvda batch file

6) it created freaking small ISO file.


I searched and searched.

no one seems having same problem as me...

please help.

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Old 03-27-2008, 11:47 PM
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MANY people have had the same small file size problem as you...it's due to improperly coded WAV files...check out my signature for the Definitive DVD-Audio Guide v2.0 and read about converting your mp3 files to FLAC...you'll burn DVD-A discs for days after that...
Old 03-28-2008, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by rimz
MANY people have had the same small file size problem as you...it's due to improperly coded WAV files...check out my signature for the Definitive DVD-Audio Guide v2.0 and read about converting your mp3 files to FLAC...you'll burn DVD-A discs for days after that...
I used BeLite that you provided and was able to make 6 .wav files ( 6 channels separated)

How can I combine all of them into one .wav?

And I tried song thats in different language's title and could NOT make it (mp3-> wav)
and I changed the title in English .. Bam! It worked. So I figured the files that I made was all faulty.. ( I made them via adobinizer)

So what should I do to make all 6 wav files into one wav?

Does Dvdfile that you provided do that??

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Don't mix stereo and multi-channel files. Create them seperately and you wont have any problem.
Old 03-28-2008, 02:10 PM
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All the audio websites say DVD AUDIO IS DEAD, So why is Acura still putting it in new cars?

I still cant believe they put in cassette players, When is the last time you bought a cassette? 20 years ago?

The DVD AUDIO discs do sound great, But with no more new releases coming out, It makes no sense.
Old 03-28-2008, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mrrame
Don't mix stereo and multi-channel files. Create them seperately and you wont have any problem.
I didn't mix them together.. Always kept them separate.

I was trying to burn multichannel wav file ( single file ) with dvda solo without making ISO .. It said the file format is invalid.

So I made ISO using dvdmaker ( or dvdamaker ) and I could make small sized ISO file..

I have NO idea why..

Question.

Do I have to make ISO? What if I just burn that mutichannel wav into DVD just like we do with mp3 to cd?
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DVD-Audio discs have a structure to them -- you can't just drop in WAV files and expect them to burn and play...so make an ISO first...

with BeLite, i thought you could make a 6-channel WAV file...

try the more advanced BeSweet if BeLite isn't working for you...i've made numerous 6-channel WAV files before with BeSweet (if i remember right)...
Old 03-28-2008, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by rimz
DVD-Audio discs have a structure to them -- you can't just drop in WAV files and expect them to burn and play...so make an ISO first...

with BeLite, i thought you could make a 6-channel WAV file...

try the more advanced BeSweet if BeLite isn't working for you...i've made numerous 6-channel WAV files before with BeSweet (if i remember right)...
Yeah. I could make the 6 separate files of .wav.
Do I have to make them into one big .wav by using BeSweet?
Old 03-28-2008, 10:20 PM
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unless dvd-audio solo accepts separate WAV files for each channel, yes, you'll have to create a single 6-channel WAV file (and i can't think of the program i used to do this!)...

by the way, i assume these files are coming from your mp3 collection...why not just make your DVD-A disc the free way as outlined in my DVD-A Guide? ...i promise you won't notice a huge difference (if any) between converting your mp3 files to stereo and converting them to 6-channel WAV files...i don't think it's worth the time...to notice a difference, surround sound files require the input to be multi-channel...not using a compressed stereo mp3 and making it one...
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Originally Posted by KpMeth
ok

here's how I did.... please make CORRECTION if there is any

1) I made .wav files from .mp3 by using third party program called 'mp3towav'

2) I put those .wav files into 2channelsource foler in Adobinizer.

3) It created multichannel .wav files. (each sized about 100~120 MB)

4) I put those mutilchannel'd .wav files to DVDA\WAVs folder

5) I ran makedvda batch file

6) it created freaking small ISO file.


I searched and searched.

no one seems having same problem as me...

please help.

thanks ahead
NO NO NO.... the makedvda.bat file is for use with the original scripts and is not ever going to work the 6 channel wavs the Adibinizer creates.

To burn 6ch wavs you need Cirlinca Solo or similar. My other scripts and GUI are only for 2ch wav.

In the original Adobinizer thread it states "You can't use my other scripts to make the DVDA. Since this just creates 6ch wav files you will need to use Cirlinca DVD Audio Solo or equivalent." You must have missed it.

Dropping the Adobinizer's 6ch wav files into Solo is the easiest way....really. No FLAC or BeLight needed...my scripts do all the processing.
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Originally Posted by Adobeman
NO NO NO.... the makedvda.bat file is for use with the original scripts and is not ever going to work the 6 channel wavs the Adibinizer creates.

To burn 6ch wavs you need Cirlinca Solo or similar. My other scripts and GUI are only for 2ch wav.

In the original Adobinizer thread it states "You can't use my other scripts to make the DVDA. Since this just creates 6ch wav files you will need to use Cirlinca DVD Audio Solo or equivalent." You must have missed it.

Dropping the Adobinizer's 6ch wav files into Solo is the easiest way....really. No FLAC or BeLight needed...my scripts do all the processing.
I used your Adobinizer to make 6ch wav.
when I droped it to DVDA solo, it says the file is curruped for unsupported format on right-bottom on the dvda-solo....

Yes, I could make 2ch wav files into ISO succesfully by makedvd.bat

I made 2ch wav files from mp3s by using makedvd.bat
and made 6ch wav files by same (dvdmake.bat) program.


So, do I have to make mp3->2ch wav using adobinizer ??
sorry for massive questions
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KpMeth, can you take a screenshot of the 'file is corruped for unsupported format' in Solo? and also a screenshot of the settings you're using to make the DVD-A disc?
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KpMeth, can you take a screenshot of the 'file is corruped for unsupported format' in Solo? and also a screenshot of the settings you're using to make the DVD-A disc?
I can't take screenshots now cuz I'm using iPhone..

I didn't change any options on solo.
as soon as I drop them, even single file, it says the file is not supported or currupted.
god... This confusing shit out of me...

I thought you have to make 2ch wav first then make 6ch wav out of it..?

The file's name is ' filename.mp3_largeclub '

Dropped it into solo.... Says not supported or currupted
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When I play 2ch wav file, it works on WMP.

And if I play 6ch wav, it doesn't play on WMP.( maybe because I only have 2.1ch speakers on my pc..?)

I used adobinizer to convert 2ch wav to 6ch wav.

I think there is something wrong with coverting 2ch wav to 6ch wav.

1) I put mp3s in group1 folder in DVDA.
2) I ran dvdmake.bat to make 2ch wav
3) moved all 2ch wav files to adobinizer\2channel folder
4) ran largegroup and it created muntilchannel wav files in the multichannel folder.
5) I put them into group1 folder in DVDA
6) no work ( only makes small ISO )

And

I also tried to put multichannel wav files straight to Solo, it doesn't recognize them
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you say your file name is 'filename.mp3_largeclub'...

two things: you can't drop MP3 files into Solo or any DVD-A authoring program AND remove the the '_largeclub' part of the filename before dropping it in...

i've only skimmed through the Adobinizer, so i can't say from experience how it should work...

you may have already looked at this, but...

http://cirlinca.com/highresolution.htm

http://cirlinca.com/surround.htm

notice they're dragging and dropping FLAC files into the program...just like i mentioned earlier...
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I'd use somthing other than my scripts to convert mp3 to 2channel wav. The converter I used to do it is not very good. Use CDEx if you can.

I just downloaded it again and ran it with a single 2 channel file called test.wav

When you run it do you see similar transcripts for each file ? If you put in a file called Hello.wav, you should get Hello_LargeClub.wav out when you run the LargeClub.vbs script. The "filename.mp3_largeclub" reference you give indicates you are doing something wrong.

As far as playing the 6ch in WMP, forget it. They usially won't play in that. If you get them to load into Cirlinca you can preview them there.

Here's a sammple of what you should see.

Code:
processing "C:\Program Files\Adobinizer\2channelSource\test.wav"
Creating left and right masters "L" and "R"
Creating mono master version of song "M"
Creating inverse right channel "1/R"
Creating inverted difference "ACC"  -( L + (1/R)) = "anti-center channel"
Creating center channel "CC"  (M + ACC)
Creating Front Left Channel "FL"  (L - CC) with 25ms echo
Creating Front Right Channel "FR"  (R - CC) with 25ms echo
Adjusting gains of FL, FR and CC channels
Creating Surround "RS"  Right Channel with 50ms echo delay 3K rolloff
Creating Surround "LS"  Left Channel with 50ms echo delay 3K rolloff
Creating LFE channel with 80Hz -18db/oct Cutoff
Now BeSweet will pack the 6 channel wav file
BeSweet v1.5b31 by DSPguru.
--------------------------

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] |  Input : 6ch.mux
[00:00:00:000] |  Output: LargeClub.wav
[00:00:00:000] |  Floating-Point Process: No
[00:00:00:000] |  Source Sample-Rate: 44.1KHz
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------
[00:00:45:313] transcoding ...
At the end of this process I have a file called "test_LargeClub.wav" in the "multiChannelOutput" directory. It can be burned with the version of Solo I have.
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hey adobeman. I finally got it done by using solo to burn them straight up without making image file. Thanks man

The reason why solo couldnt recognize the file was that they were in foreign language.
I changed them to English title and it worked!

Now, only problem was that the solo doesn't work on vista ( dvdasolo.Exe stopped working massage) grrtrrrrrr

So I had to use my mother's computer to burn it.

I made it with smallclub wavs. Sounded great

Imma try to make largeclub wav tonight to see the difference.

Question: can TL reads double-layer DVDs? I could fit in only 34 tracks on single layer.
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Originally Posted by KpMeth
Question: can TL reads double-layer DVDs? I could fit in only 34 tracks on single layer.
people have reported that dual-layer discs are readable by the TL...

34??? ...how long are your songs? ...i can fit 80 tracks easily with lots of room to spare on a single-layer DVD-A disc...
Old 03-31-2008, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by rimz
people have reported that dual-layer discs are readable by the TL...

34??? ...how long are your songs? ...i can fit 80 tracks easily with lots of room to spare on a single-layer DVD-A disc...
they are just regular length... like 3'50 to 4'20 ( crazy that LOTs of song's length are 4'20) lol

multichannel files are like 120~150MB... I guess thats why

also Thanks to you Rimz
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oooh...didn't know you had burned your multi-channel files yet...yeah that'll make a difference in how many you fit on a DVD then...

and you're welcome...Adobeman and I are two people who answer the most DVD-A questions on here...though he knows more about it than i do...
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