Ok, so there are many threads about this...but no answers.

I know that there are many options for folks who don't have Nav, or who replace XM with the iPod connectionlike the Neo iOn SP. and yeah, there are FM transmitters and cassette adaptors...but i don't want those , so if you suggest them, we'll all know ya didn't read the post !

Has anyone connected their Ipod to their Nav-equiped TL without disconnecting XM ? Is there a way to put a switch or something? i hate the scraping cassette sound during low passages on the otherwise fantastic sound system...so i wanna do a direct connection.

Anybody?

 

in a few days i am gonna try something, just waiting for all the parts to arrive. i will post when i'm finished

 

neoion has something for non-navi's..but it almost costs 199 or something...which I don't think is worth it....rather just get XM..

 

cuz really, the choices now aren't the best!

anyone else had a success?

 

You can just use a couple double throw relays and intercept the XM audio going into the radio. I tap into the wires in the trunk at the XM tuner.

 

Blitzsafe makes an adapter that works with the TL. It requires a little bit of work (have to add a switch to one of the wires on the dongle), but it's worth it. I've hooked it up and the direct connect sound to the head unit is awesome. You'll have to switch the XM signal also, but this gives you a full RCA AUX input.

 

it doesn't work with Navi, when you plug the harness into the back of the radio, besides losing XM you also lose the ability to use the touch screen for radio or any other audio features. we are just gonna have to wait

 

On the Canadian TL, I sometimes have a problem with the touch screen being disabled, but not always, it's really weird. I use my AUX box mainly to watch movies on my Navi screen and headrest screens, so I'm not really using Navi at the time. And if you ever do want to use the touch screen controls, you can just flick the switch on the yellow wire and then switch it back. Annoying for now for sure. I'm sure Blitzsafe will update the firmware on the AUX box. Hopefully, they'll ship just the reprogrammed PIC chip to me.

 

Search under my name on here. I dide a solution on this a few months ago with modifying the adapter setup. Going on several months and it works fine for me and the 6 other people I did it for

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https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...1&page=1&pp=25

Post #110 but read the thread to follow how it's done.

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it think it's alot easier to just wait then cut wires and put a switch in the car

 

I'd rather have a switch then wait on a solution that will cost more and take forever to get. Back when we worked on this we sent emails to Bltizsafe and they still haven't found a fix. Problem is there is no more channels on the OEM bus to use for an AUX so if you want to get the audio in your TL you might have to go this route for a while. To each his own though.

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The harness for an Ipod? Why with the XM plugged in you would have the touchscreen and with an Ipod plugged in you would have no touchscreen?

not that I dont believe you but where did you find that info?

 

what i did was use the SNHOND3 as the aux input than used the dension adapter to hook up my ipod. i'm not saying touch screen for the ipod, but the touch screen in general gets disabled when u plug the adapter in. if you read through that thread you'll see someone else had the same problem

 

that is only if you plug the adapter right in. You have to use the two port harness to add the adapter in the bus and still pass the traffic for the touch screen. With a 2 port harness it's works fine I have done to many to count this way on Accords, TSX, TLs etc

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what about the hack to the plug? i know they say if you buy some honda harness and cut it in half then solder 3 wire in it's supposed to work

 

No need, they have a 2 port harness that is plug and play. No cutting anything

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I-MOD,

My TL didn't use the port the AUX adapter from the Blitzsafe plugs into. Meaning, I didn't need the three-wire dongle that you can get. Does the US TL use it?

 

Do you have XM on your TL and is it NAV? This setup is for XM/NAV TL

 

Nope, the Canadian TL doesn't have XM. I was to understand that the three wires were for XM not for Nav. I do have Nav though.

 

I might have misunderstood you....Yes the US TL with nav/XM used the free buss port on the radio so you have to split it off for the blitzsafe, then you have to add a switch to be able to use XM or Blitzsafe as there are no free bus channels and they share the XM bus

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Weird. Cuz although the Canadian TL doesn't have XM, there is still some kind of weird conflict with the system bus, so I still had to switch the yellow wire. Oh well, I'm sure Blitzsafe will come up with something. Lots of people are looking for it.

 

Did you have a plug with 3 wires plugged into the AUX port on the back of the radio? If so is that unplugged? that is the part of the buss that controls the NAV tough functions

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Nope, I didn't have a plug with 3 wires plugged into the AUX port. Maybe on the Canadian TL, the Nav takes the XM bus channel, leaving the US Nav channel free? Does that make any sense?

 

Not really, on the US TL the nav uses a channel, the XM used one and there is no AUX channel. that is why it has to be setup to cut power to the blitzsafe adapter when you want to use XM. I'd think you guys would have a free channel since XM isn't using it. Odd

 

I agree. But I have a feeling the channel the AUX box is programmed (in firmware) to use is the XM channel and the head unit (although it doesn't have XM) probably still reserves that channel. Or something along those lines. Unless it's the external source that reserves the channel? I don't really know how the Alpine bus works. Why didn't Panasonic and Acura just decide to have a free channel and an AUX input? ARGH!!!

 

For cost savings I'm sure the front unit is the same for Can and US models, and they just don't put in the rear XM module on the Can TL. So I bet your right about the bus still being reserved. Since you guys don't have XM what does the buttin on your head unit say? Or does it say XM but doesn't have it?

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We have four buttons on the head unit (as you do - they are just labelled differently):

1. FM
2. AM
3. CD/DVD
4. TAPE

 

I-Mod...
you seem to know a whole lot about this! i looked at the previous thread, and learned a lot...but infoi was spread out all over the posts.

can you post some detailed instructions on what i'd need to buy, and how to install them...

or, when are you coming anywhere near NYC, so i can get you to install it?

Again, i have a US TL w/Nav and XM, and want to keep XM.

thanks man!

 

Shoot me a PM and I'll do a write up for you tomorrow. You'll need to get a service manual if your not sure how to take the dash apart. you'll need to pull the radio out to plug in the adapter to the back of it. That is most of the work

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Sorry if this has already been said, But why not splice into the Tape deck instead of XM. Better to compromise the tape deck then the XM. if you are crafty you could also probably remove that tape deck and modify it so its an ipod cradle. Now THAT would be cool.

 

actually the radio doesn't need to come out, you need to remove the 2 metal trim parts, remove the arm rest, remove the driver side kick panel and the plastic, then remove the trim from the side of the console. there is just enough room to fit your hand in there and press the release clip and remove the harness from the radio. i did it 3 times, much easier than removing everything

 

Ok I am still trying to understand. But for now my question is only this...

Does the connection that goes to aux from the head unit the same as the one that goes to the tape deck?

 

You must have small hands. I had to take them apart for lack of room to get my hands in there to unplug the harness.

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There is no AUX on the head unit. That is why it has to be wired on a switch, so that the adapter can be turned off to share the bus with the XM.
The tape deck is not on the digital bus so it is moot in this situation and can't be used for anything other than playing old school tapes......do they still sell those?

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I'm doing a DVD/NAV conversion in the next few days on my 05 TL and will be hooking up the Audio as well so if I remember I'll snap a few pictures for you so you can see what I'm talking about

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i wish my entire hand fit in there, you take 1 finger to push down the release clip, then with another finger or flat head screw driver you push out the harness from the radio. not easy, but to me it was easier than removing the entire dash twice

 

Just found this on Pioneer's site.... do we have an IP-Bus system on our stereo head units??



Take Tunes On The Road With Pioneer iPOD Adapter


Most Compatible iPod Adapter Available Makes It Easy for 10 Million iPod Owners to Access Their Music in the Car


Las Vegas, NV January 5, 2005

The 10 million owners of iPod portable music players in the United States can celebrate that a new product introduced today by Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc. enables them to play thousands of songs from an iPod® directly through their car stereo. The adapter works with the IP-Bus system in more than 3 million Pioneer car stereos, including all of Pioneer’s new car stereos being introduced at this week’s International Consumer Electronics Show.



“Portable digital music players like the iPod® are no longer a passing trend, but are part of the digital lifestyle. Consumers love their iPod® music and they want to take it with them everywhere, including the car,” said Michael Townsen, director of marketing for mobile entertainment at Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc. “More than 10 million iPods have been sold since October 2001. Consumers of iPods are also Pioneer mobile product customers seeking a safe way to access that music in the car. Now they can with one quick connection to the CD-IB100.”



Easy to Install/Easy to Use
Through Pioneer’s IP-Bus system, the CD-IB100 is backwards compatible with more than 3 million Pioneer car stereos sold during the past several years. Users will be able to operate their iPods as easily as they would using the stereo unit, by means of the stereo’s front panel controls. Pioneer stereos will display up to eight characters of text including album, artist and song names, with the ability to scroll additional information. While an iPod® is docked to the CD-IB100, the adapter will charge the internal battery of the player so the iPod® will have plenty of juice in the battery when arriving at a final destination.



With select 2005 Pioneer audio video units, the adapter provides enhanced features including multi-line display and list search, taking advantage of the additional display real estate.



Great Sound Quality
The CD-IB100 adapter also takes full advantage of Pioneer’s audio enhancement capabilities such as Easy Equalizer (EEQ) and Bit Media Expander (BMX). Pioneer radios with the built-in EEQ feature let users adjust the sound from their iPod/iTunes device to their audio preference. Units with the BMX feature automatically restore the harmonics lost during recording of compressed music, giving the listener the same warmth and richness found in the original music.



The CD-IB100 adapter will be available in March of 2005 for a suggested retail price of $140. iPod®, iPod® minis and iTunes® products are sold separately.

 

Gotcha, I'll look into that next time. I usually have to take stuff apart anyway because the guys usually do a short shifter as well at the same time. Seems like in my Area everyone has the 6 speed

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I-MOD,

Do the short shifters really work? Are they just as smooth as OEM? Which brands are you usually installing? Got any links?