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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 02:24 AM
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i started taking my TL apart. I have question on relocating the stock LCD? Do i need to cut the circuit board? and how is it mounted?
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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Relocating the stock LCD is not really hard....

1- Extend ~40 cables from the stereo/temperature button to the board.
2- Cut the plastic bezel to make a good lookin fit
3- Take measurements and cut a transparent plexi glass
4- Choose the height of the display (MAKE SURE IT FITS IN THE CAR)
5- Cut a little from the corner of the board to make it fit
6- Paint the plexi in black or whatevercolor you like
7- Fix the plexi onto the board (hot glue)
8- Fix the board onto the plastic bezel (hot glue)

I coudl get into some more details but Im sure you're getting the point here.

One thing I will suggest you: if you can cut into you original bezel, take the 2 rectangular parts that surround and protect the LCD displays, this will limit the DUST from coming inside and mess you work!!!! (been there done that)

Let me know if you need more help!Good luck!

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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by cape_dawg
this was not a rush job I am on a month leave from work, so I was taking my time to do it right. No one in Hawaii wanted to do it, so I read up on all the post on here and decided to do it. It took me along time to work up the nerve to do it and then this $hit happens Boy I can't wait to get my double din.
check all of your connection.. what did you used to connected it? some time its just an easy fix. or just reconnect everything all over then triple check. make sure same each end collor are matches.
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 09:49 PM
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nitropwd and i install and finish his pc in his car for 14hr staight.
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ezland00
i started taking my TL apart. I have question on relocating the stock LCD? Do i need to cut the circuit board? and how is it mounted?
here a link of my post to give you an idea
https://acurazine.com/forums/9076718-post/
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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Relocating the stock LCD is not really hard....
So what about if you are going from a TL-S with Navigation to a CarPC? Do you even need to worry about the "stock LCD" ? My concern is that with a Navi. TL you obviously use the Navi. screen for what the Non-Navi LCD was for. So if non-Navi folks are relocating their non-Navi LCDs, then what would someone who already has a Navi. do in this case?
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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Its possibile to relocate the Navi screen or there's some on here that simply Hide the navi screen and use the PC all the time. ( you need to keep the navi screen if you want the temperature and radio display in the clock display)
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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okay, can you clarify on two things for me:

1.) The navi screen must stay connected because it somehow relays through the connections the display information to the red-display up above it (on the TL-S). This should be apprent if I look at the technical manual for the TL-S, so I can check in to that as well.

2.) Does the Navi. screen, from what you are saying, drive all of that red-display in the TL-S?? So when you say temp. you mean the cabin temp and basically everything else on that display?

Thanks for the clarification; I'm getting a much better idea of what I need to do. (thanks for your replies in the other post as well!)
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 11:34 PM
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1)True, sorry if I didnt explain well...I have the NOn Navi version, so its kinda hard to explain in details. I just understand the concept. The screen is precessing some data and send it to the display..simple as that!!

2)It seems like it does. If you want to keep your Stereo and temp display, the navi screen needs to be connected. For instance, I have the non-navi version....but I want to LOOSE the stock LCD display (HVAC) so I can get back my lower compartments. I need to buy the NAVI screen ONLY and the Navi CLOCK. The navi would be hidden in the dash and give the info needed to the CLOCK display!(Stereo - Clock - temp - HFL)
This is one of the best : https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...819&highlight=

Dont worry if you need help, thats what Azine made for :P

GOOD LUCK BRO! Welcome to the family!!!
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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Okay, good information. I am going to look in to keeping the stock LCD some more. Maybe I can figure something out :-)

Thanks for the help!

So I just need to go hunt for a non-Navi bezel and maybe some other misc. parts for the time being!
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Exactly thats the easiest and inexpensive way to go....
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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thanks Vmt,
i have moved the display to the lower console. can you tell me how to wire the pc audio to the xm audio in the car?

thanks
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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thanks Vmt,
i have moved the display to the lower console. can you tell me how to wire the pc audio to the xm audio in the car?

ill post some pictures to share with you guys.
thanks
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 05:05 PM
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Good don't stop there, did you also install your TV??

Originally Posted by ezland00
thanks Vmt,
can you tell me how to wire the pc audio to the xm audio in the car?
You're gonna need this : PA11-HON2y
You can buy this device on the internet from a lot of place. Make sure you shop for the best price. Simply do a PA11-HON2y search in google.

Has for the pictures, It would be even better to start your own thread. That way we could see all your personal work and innovation.

Im gonna start a thread in the AUDIO SECTION for a "Special section" about carPCs since there's a lot of people asking about it. ******PLEASE GO VOTE FOR IT MAYBE IT WILL WORK******
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by onyx1121
okay, can you clarify on two things for me:

1.) The navi screen must stay connected because it somehow relays through the connections the display information to the red-display up above it (on the TL-S). This should be apprent if I look at the technical manual for the TL-S, so I can check in to that as well.

2.) Does the Navi. screen, from what you are saying, drive all of that red-display in the TL-S?? So when you say temp. you mean the cabin temp and basically everything else on that display?

Thanks for the clarification; I'm getting a much better idea of what I need to do. (thanks for your replies in the other post as well!)
1) The controller board for the Navi screen must be connected at all times or some of the HVAC circuitry will go to the default state when you turn the car on (on high blower setting, unresponsive to buttons). I would recommend getting a service manual and electrical manual, they can be found on ebay.

2) You can physically separate the LCD from the controller board. I did that in mine and physically shifted the controller circuit back to allow a Xenarc (in original casing) to fit in the same bezel space. The clock display still can do all the audio functions (display radio stations, disc track, etc), but speaker alignment is the only one I remember that was OEM LCD dependent. My CarPC is running much better with a Xenarc rather than signal converting with Dom's (resolution is MUCH sharper and touchscreens rule).

It was a pain in the a$$ when I blew out a fuse but did not catch it quickly. I thought I killed the circuit board and bought an extra on ebay (ugh long story). Anyhow, if you have the option of going non-navi to carPC it is much easier than what I went through. I kept with it since I will be holding onto the car for a few more years easily (05TL with 38k mi).

I have albums posted online, I can forward them to you to share notes, etc.

HS
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 04:17 AM
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$24....Wow

I'm considering a carputer too. But I don't want to remove the two compartments just to display that information.

If I can get my hands on a cheap non-navi display like you found, I'll spring another $140.00 for the navi based upper display (where we only have a clock) to see if there is anyway to do an lcd to lcd connection or something like that.

I read one thread where someone bought a navi display and just used it to get the information to the upper display and just stashed the display inside the dash. Unless there's one that can be had for really cheap, that's a lot of expense for something that won't be seen.

As far as the radio goes, I am thinking of getting a PC tuner that has a FM tuner onboard and drive it via the PC. So the headunit will be used as the volume control only.

Good luck with your installation. Do you have a heated garage to work in? It's going to get cold up here pretty soon (I'm about 2hrs south of Montreal)!!
That was me who have a whole navi display stashed behind my xenarc on the bottom compartment. I considered using that display for my carpc using RGBS signal but the screen resolution sucks compared to a xenarc. The navi clock i got for $30 i believe... another lucky buy. All it displays is clock info ( only way to adjust is to remove the battery or the fuse to radio and it resets to 1:00). Also shows when ur phone is connected and HVAC info. I just blindly input radio code if i have to reset the clock and radio stations...well i just take a guess.

For audio... just use the XM input to the radio. I wired directly to a 3.5mm cable and it sounds amazing. Much better than a tape adapter or FM transmitter. Almost like aux input.

I got lucky and found the navi screen and bezel for like $100 i believe... I have a couple of the old non-navi dash bezels if anyone is interested. I am selling them off for what I paid..$45 + shipping.

PM if interested.
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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Here is the NAVI HAVC with 8.4" Dynamix Touch Screen installed on 04 NAVI Bezel thet I bought from E-Bay for 49.00 and the Navi buttons are remapped to CAR PC so I can control.
This will be install on 04 Acura Non_Navi next week or so.


























All the HVAC cable has been extended and CAR PC will be place under passenger seat.
Once I finish I will post more picture and sorry for dark quality photo.
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 02:15 PM
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Good job man!!! Looks really good, witch skin are you using ??? and witch FrontEnd?
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 02:16 PM
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Let us know how you did to remapped the navi buttons...Im interested!!!!
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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I'm using Valheru's Teknik T-3 Skin (Change alot manually), IG2009, on the XP w/Sp2, Direct X9, 1.6Ghz CPU 1Gb Ram, 60Gb For OS, 160Gb Sata for MP3 and DVDs, External DVD R/RW, M2-ATX Power.


I purchased Dual Shock USB Gamepad for less than 10$ and Use Xpadder(Free Program - works beautifully) for keyboard and mouse emulation.
Set for shortkey under Xpadder will launch automatically every time you start computer before Frone End start.

Game pad has analog and digital button but default is digitaland analog is not the push on/off style so you need modification if you want to use analog signal.
So, I choose digital signal cause digital will accept ananlog input as well.
I made 2 wire to each button from Gamepad total of 16wires(I Used network cable - works fine)
On the HVAC bezel there is PCB board behind the button carefully remove back cover (has 4 screw) and on the pcb board there is 2 screw.
PCB board has 11 wire connector which 2 wire is use for Night Illumination and 9 wire is for all the button which is not enough to connect all the wire to GamePad.

Which mean is some circuit is connect each other buttom so I used razor blade to cut the circuit board copper circuit(Just Hair Cut - Not to damage other circuit) next to each button but leave enough to solder.
Make sure not to cut Light bulb circuit.
And solder the wire from game pad 2 wire for each button.

On the joy stick on the factory HVAC bezel doesn't have any register but game pad has register for that reason you need same register read from game pad joystick and connect each regiter to HVAC's Joystick make sure same x and y's value from gamepad.

Once finish and good time to change light bulb to blue I am using smallest blue led(whatever color you like) solder direct to circuit board make sure check with multimeter test you solder same circuit because led need + and - circuit and can't be combind.
Once you finish then connect 12v source see if work properly.

I am not an engineer to do this but I asked someone who set up kind of like my setup but he never answer me(2 button works on his setup) kind of pissing me off.

MAP/GUIDE - switch screen from menu or any other screen to GPS.
MENU - GPS Menu Display and Enter Key on Skin Menu
SETUP/INFO - LIst on GPS and Cursor Left/Cursor Right on skin menu.
ZOOM - Zoom Out/In on GPS and Cursor Up/Cursor DOwn on skin menu.
Cancel - Exit on the GPS and Cancel/Back to previous on the skin menu.
Audio - Audio on the skin menu ( I can't think of using something else)
Joystick for me use as mouse.

I hope this help you set up your project

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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 03:29 PM
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I used this back ground image for 04TL.
Image is 800X600 so you can use on your skin.

Acura.Jpg - Daytime background





Acura1.Jpg - Nighttime background

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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 09:06 AM
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I have attach the PA11-HON2y to my XM head unit. I have one problem. Everytime when i switch between disc play or FM/AM to XM, i have to reach down to the PA11-HON2y, and switch the pin from off and on to get audio sound from my PC.

What can i do to fix this problem
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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Are you using Ipod and AUX ??

...there's 2 or 3 possibility....I'll try to check tonight the configuration of the switchs....
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 12:08 PM
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Has for the background...thanx a lot, but I'm running my display on 1024x768 its the best for IGuidance on a 7 inch screen! Try it you'll be surprised!
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by VmtSquad
Has for the background...thanx a lot, but I'm running my display on 1024x768 its the best for IGuidance on a 7 inch screen! Try it you'll be surprised!
8" Dynamix goes up to 1600X1200 Res. I tried 1024X768 yeah, It is good but OSK is too small that is why I use 800X600(Who care if my daugther took away from me for her 18th birthday present. ...lol...)
I am developing Skin it may under Linux or XP or both support OBD-II Engine Management(It will take forever I guess, if I spare 3 hours a day? lol...).
Till then I will use what I have.
Anyway, Image you could download at Acura Website and they have other higher res. image too.
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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Nice job, Im also planning on doing my own skin...but the thing is there's only 24hours in a day....Maybe we could help each other....
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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Graphics on that thing are amazing.
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 02:19 AM
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Ikechum: nice install so far =) you took it one up with the usb gamepad. i would love to have the center joystick functioning as a mouse but right now since its wired to a usb keyboard instead, its very tricky to program
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 12:39 AM
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New skin in developing

I am going to make new skin for my need.
It is not fancy but all that I needed is there.
It is transparency so can use any background images.
It will takes time to finish.






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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 11:13 PM
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Previous skins looks too much cartoonish.
So, I decide to go other skin (modified from kuo) that fits for me.
I like to keep it simple without using much flash.
Most of skins used too much of flash files that slowing down CAR PC performance.




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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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Nice, I hope you'll let us try this out!!!
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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Nice, I hope you'll let us try this out!!!
I am working on the graphic now if you need PSD file I will send it to you once I finished (800X600 Res.).
I have 800X480 Original KUO PSD files if you interested let me know.
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 11:09 PM
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Finally CAR PC installed on 04 TL

Finally finished spent 8 hours without eat.
Hardest part was the original HVAC move to bottom center console.
I used flexiglass for temp. solution but soon will be replace with solid wood frame since I am manufacturing cabinet doors. Wood frame will be much cleaner and more to factory look.
Anyway, computer works fine as I expected(Slow boot but I can live withit).
BTW computer placed under the driver seat some how there is AC bent outlet will cool down computer as long as I am driving(which I don't have to worry heating problem).

Here is some ugly out of focused photo attached.













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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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Hey guys, not sure where I stated that I would be doing a small video on "How to remove the dash and center console"....but I guess its ok if I post it here.

I finally shot the video last weekend I simply need to edit it and POST it on the forum. I hope this will help people personalizing their TL.

Stay tune, it will be out soon!!
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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My first dynamix was bad too. I am going one 1 year on my second with no problems. It's big, 8" and 16:9 widescreen, but I would like it to be brighter. Once it goes bad I may look to another brand.

Maharajamd:

My schematic is almost the similar as yours except I have high end sound card that gives me RCAs out. I tapped into the XM receiver in the trunk. When I press XM on my head unit I get the PC sound. I still retain all stock head unit functions. Sorry, I use Roadrunner too.
Hey do you have any diagram or how you tapped into the XM? anything would be great man! I was thinking of keeping the factory headunit and doing exactly what you've done..
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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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Awesome tutorial!
I'm happy that SSD are cheap now.

Vmt, do you mind if i will ask you few questions in future? or even maybe we can meet one day.

Ez
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 10:16 AM
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Just so that you guys know, I created a DIY (video) on how to remove all Center Console Parts...here's the link

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/f-051-diy-video-how-remove-center-console-lower-dash-glove-box-733555/

Hope this helps some of you trying to install a CarPc or else!
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Old Jul 3, 2009 | 07:34 PM
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by VmtSquad
ok! Since I have a day off cause of the SNOW outside... Here's some update regarding my "carpc project".

My Screen: Xenarc 2008 TSV 7''


My FronEnd/Skin: RoadRunner / DigitalFX


My StockLCD Extended Wire: home made


Till this day, Im only missing the PCTV-HD adapter, should be shipped by now, and a 500Gig HDD.

Stay tuned for more......
hey the home made wire harness..you mentioned that you bought another display and used it..im assuming that you extended only the climate control plugs from the extra?
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