bmui1561

So my friend has a 2002 ML55 AMG and wanted to race sometime. He claims that his car is the second fastest SUV made which I do not even know is true, fastest being the Cayenne Turbo. He says he would put money on it that he would beat me by multiple car lengths. His is bone stock and when I looked on google for 0-60 times the ML55 said 6.4secs and my 6MT TL said 6secs.

The race would be from standstill to about 80mph

I know 0-60 times do not determine the race. Will I be able to keep up with him??

MTVtec

I would say hell yes. You'll get the jump at the start as the AMG weighs a lot (2.5 tons). And you'll have a comfortable lead to 60 since he only does 6.4 and you go to 60 under 6 seconds (manual). I think that you should definately beat him to 80 as well but I wouldn't go over 80 cause that big bad V8 will be gone.

And no his SUV is NOT the second fastest SUV made.
here's how it goes: 1)Cayenne Turbo 0-60: 5 seconds
2)BMW X5 4.8is 0-60: 6.1 seconds
3)Infiniti FX45 + Cayenne S 0-60: 6.3 seconds
4) Mercedes ML55 AMG 0-60: 6.5 seconds
So his SUV is NOT the second fastest...more like fifth fastest.

bmui1561

Thanks for the info...i'll let you know how it goes

nYmALu86

It's not the 5th fastest either you forgot about the new Jeep Cherokee SRT-8

MTVtec

So true man!! Forgot about that beast! So that makes it 6th in line now?!!

2003TL-S

You also forgot the Chevrolet Trailblazer SS

nYmALu86

hahah thats tru also. LOL i think it went from "2nd" to like 7th

bmui1561

haha I feel a little better about racing him now, thanks!

bkzjimmy

i found this
Car-Stats.com Report for 2000 Mercedes-Benz ML55 AMG
Obtained from C&D December, 1999
0-60: 6.8 Transmission: Unknown
1/4 Mile: 15.3

both TLS and TLP can take it

MTVtec

Just remember to turn your VSA off before you race him otherwise you'll lose when you could have won.

MTVtec

Are you gonna race this guy or what?

BustedJack

tell your friend that my cousin's Ford Windstar will smoke his AMG SUV....
It's a SUV... it's not meant to be racing

SRT4and05TL

Tell that to the SRT-8 Grand Cherokee that runs a 13.3 in the quarter without even removing the window sticker from the dealership. 60' times are in the 1.7-1.9 sec range... AWD.

SUV's that can take kids to the soccer field in 13 seconds flat. lol.

F23A4

....same argument can be made for the TL as well.

ttliang

true. same argument applies to 99.9% of the cars out there.

F23A4

Indeed.

TL260power

so wutz up..did you race him??

bmui1561

So we raced last night from a standstill. We got on the highway about 2AM when there weren't any cars and we were able to come to a complete stop. So off the line he was about 1/2 a car length ahead for maybe a second or so but once I got into 2nd the positions were reversed and I was about 1 to 1 1/2 ahead. We did not have a stopping point so we just kept going I was about 2 car lengths give or take around 70mph (its hard to really tell how far ahead you are at night). But at that point he started gaining and by 90 he was almost even with me again and over 100 he started edging out front. He was finally ahead of me and we stopped.

So i guess this was expected...the TL would do fine off the start vs the ML in the beginning but after 90-100mph with his V8, i had no chance

F23A4

I would have thought the opposite to occur. I figured the ML55 would bolt off the line faster with the TL 6MT doing the catch-n-pass.

TLdriver022

Actually the new Cayenne Turbo S with 520 hp is the fastest with a zero to sixty time of 4.8 seconds

TL260power

im confused...did you use each gear to its max? rigth under redline?? was VSA off??? im not sure if its the same for the 3rd TLs.. but in my 02 TL when the yellow light is on it means that the VSA is off....

BUt i figured you would take it at the end... when im in third i go all the way up to 105mph...before i hit redline...cause 4th i hit a brick wall...

bmui1561

VSA was on, went all the way up to redline in first and second, almost to it in third, by that point i was concentrating more on the road.

Like MVTEC said, I think its because of the V8 power at the upper end is why he gained on me at the higher speeds and eventually passed.

TL260power

VSA is suppose to be off.....

TL4U2DZYR

That makes a huge difference.

I can feel the computer backing the car off when I am 3/4 throttle or more... almost like a limiter.

Turn it on and have some fun... it's so much more predictable IMO.

apnorm

iTrader: (3)

So did you take his $$$? lol...multiple car lengths by 80MPH...I bet he was surprised when YOU were ahead!

05TLTony

I guess he forgot to turn it off in the heat of the moment. But the good thing is he still won up to 80mph.

bmui1561

Nah, we never ended up racing for money. Musta been scared haha

MTVtec

Nice race man. I knew you would for sure take him in the start, just too bad u didnt turn off ur VSA cause then u would have beat him by even more and would have probably been ahead of him the whole entire race.

FightingTL

lol @ you.

1.) The Cayenne Turbo is 5.4 0-60.
2.) The Jeep Srt-8 is 4.8 0-60. (It is the fastest SUV ever)
3.) The TrailBlazer SS is 5.1 0-60.
4.) The Grand Cherokee 5.9 does 0-60 in 6.3.

Your list is way off.

Then we'll get to add the New Cayenne turbo just behind the Srt-8 because it has a slower 1/4 mile time.