what will it take for P to beat type S?

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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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what will it take for P to beat type S?

just curious, what will it take for a 00TL to beat a stock type S? has anyone ever did this?

i have a friend that owns a type S and DOES NOT want to mod it at all. it's completely stock and is going to stay that way..

but no one said anything about me staying stock..
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 02:23 AM
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hmmm.. anyone?
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 02:40 AM
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 07:23 AM
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 01:17 AM
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 05:36 PM
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any other ideas?
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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headers, UR crank pulley, CAI, catback and you will win! You should be putting out 270HP at crank apposed to 260HP for the type S if not more than 270HP at crank which means more WHP than the Type S. The cars weight about the same and stock ride height is about the same. Same tranny too, you win!
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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or just a wet kit or CT SC, you win hands down.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:52 PM
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well, i should be more specific, i meant, whaat's the minimum needed to beat the S..?

or maybe even tie..?
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 07:36 AM
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headers, CAI and UR crank pulley should draw us even if not over an S.
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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how about a Type S engine swap


plus an intake
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 08:27 AM
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3.5 RL engine swap would bring a TLP over the TLS.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 02:38 AM
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i have headers and intake and exhaust and a TL-S cannot beat me

nor the new TL
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 04:29 AM
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it depends on driver sometimes....
if the tl-s driver sucks... u might win...
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 12:52 PM
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the stock S has max torque at 3500 where yours is 4400. There is a dual stage intake on the S as well. I would say forget all the pulleys and super charger mods, a 100 shot of NOS would do.. lol.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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100 shot of nitrous wouldn't destroy a type s. a 50 shot should pull you even with it.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sbuswell
100 shot of nitrous wouldn't destroy a type s. a 50 shot should pull you even with it.
Yeah, it would. A TL-P puts down like 175-180 at the wheels. A Type-S puts down 195-200 at the wheels.

180 + 100 = 280, which is > 200. Nitrous shots are measured by horsepower gained at the wheels. A 100-shot on a Premium would ABSOLUTELY destroy a Type-S, but it would also destroy the engine and the transmission in the process.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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i meant to say 100 shot would destroy, as I latyer said a 50 shot would pull even, actaully your right though a 50 shot would beat a type s easily also.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sbuswell
i meant to say 100 shot would destroy, as I latyer said a 50 shot would pull even, actaully your right though a 50 shot would beat a type s easily also.
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 04:07 AM
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Isn't it sad how...a TL-P can put 175-180whp. While a Type S can only push out 15 more ponies at the wheels....even though its a 35hp difference. :sigh: I wish the TL-S can push out what the G35's can do. 210-215's...stock.
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 04:41 AM
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by WiLLs TypE S
Isn't it sad how...a TL-P can put 175-180whp. While a Type S can only push out 15 more ponies at the wheels....even though its a 35hp difference. :sigh: I wish the TL-S can push out what the G35's can do. 210-215's...stock.
Not necessarily "sad".

The realistic range is actually about 20-25 fwhp, since Type-S usually puts down about 195-200 fwhp.

35 hp * .75 = 26.25

Give or take, on a good day... blah blah blah
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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a cl-s 6MT normally puts down around 220fwhp that's up there with the g35's except the 6MT G35 which I believe puts down about 250rwhp=fast as hell.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 07:56 AM
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Yeah...I wish there is a way to make our tranny lost be equivalent to those RWD. -=T
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