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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 04:12 PM
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What kind of gas are you guys using?

John Eagle Acura - in houston - says to use the middle grade........ no one has "91" in houston.......


im wondering if i should combo premium and middle?
Old Oct 8, 2005 | 04:14 PM
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Im in Houston too and we use Premium at any good brand gas station.
Old Oct 8, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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The flammable stuff.



I think Acura recommends 91 octane, but if you can't get 91, get higher or combine higher and lower to get as close to 91 as possible.

It's probably more hassle than it's worth to combine, though...

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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 04:21 PM
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91 all the way....
Old Oct 8, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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93 octane here. There's actually a place about 20 min. from where I used to live that sold 100 octane, but that went for about $7.00 a gallon. A friend of mine who drives an S4 filled it up w/ it one time, and DAMN did his car fly
Old Oct 8, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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An S4 only has a compression ratio of 11:1 and there is no forced induction, sooo, I would conclude that it should not perform any differently than if it was running 93.

I would recomend 93, but 91 is fine too. If you have anything Higher you dont need to mix to bring the octane down.
Old Oct 8, 2005 | 11:11 PM
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where i live, you can only get 92 or 93 for premium. the next lowest grade is 89. i feel that if i have a choice between 92 and 93 at the same price why not go with 93. mobil seems to be the cheapest station along my route week in and week out, so i go with mobil which has 93.
Old Oct 8, 2005 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mojo risin
where i live, you can only get 92 or 93 for premium. the next lowest grade is 89. i feel that if i have a choice between 92 and 93 at the same price why not go with 93. mobil seems to be the cheapest station along my route week in and week out, so i go with mobil which has 93.
I use 93.

They don't sell 91 octane in NJ. 87, 89 or 93 with some exceptions.
Old Oct 9, 2005 | 12:28 AM
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I use unleaded gas.
Old Oct 9, 2005 | 12:45 AM
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I use water.

My 05 TL is special edition that Acura Michael (my friend) made just for me.

Its a hybrid and use 17 gallons of evian. I used Poland Spring before and my TL had engine ping.

Im gonna try to put in capri sun tomorrow.
Old Oct 9, 2005 | 12:48 AM
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I believe the reason they "say" to use 91 is simply because the car can run efficiently on 91. If you run higher, say...93 or 94 (sunoco) it will not hurt. Is there gain? Little to none, but your combustion will be more thorough and cleaner. So if you have access to higher (93 or 94) and doesn't kill your wallet, don't be shy.
Old Oct 9, 2005 | 01:41 AM
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94 sunoco for me!
Old Oct 9, 2005 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by crazymjb
An S4 only has a compression ratio of 11:1 and there is no forced induction, sooo, I would conclude that it should not perform any differently than if it was running 93.

I would recomend 93, but 91 is fine too. If you have anything Higher you dont need to mix to bring the octane down.
I could be wrong, but i believe he was talking about a B5 Audi S4. the one with a 2.7L V6 Bi-Turbo with Compression ratio 9.3:1.... this engine with a good chip like APR's would run VERY well with 100 Octane.
Old Oct 9, 2005 | 06:53 AM
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Where I live, there's only 87/89/93, so I use 93. Works fine for me, though paying over $3 a gallon is a mild annoyance (I'm simply thankful I can afford it).
Old Oct 9, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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In the '04-'06 TL using anything higher than 91 octane is worth NO GAIN, none. Will it hurt to use it, no, only your wallet.

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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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i use super
Old Oct 9, 2005 | 09:18 AM
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 09:56 AM
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Is it true that the higher octane gas burns faster? Common sense would tell me yes.. but does anyone know technically?
Old Oct 9, 2005 | 09:57 AM
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Sorry, I am not a huge fan of audi(though they are nice when they run, but are all limited to 130 except the S) I live in MA and have only found 1 station with 91, everything else is 87, 89, or 93. We use 93.
Old Oct 9, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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so if someone uses 87 or 89 will it be bad?...the reason i am asking is cause i dont want to mess up anything, but in my area (connecticut) it seems as if the 93 is a 35-40 cent differnce from the base fuel....so far i have been using 93 Mobil/Exxon
Old Oct 9, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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Stick with the 93 if you can.
Old Oct 9, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by invincible569
Is it true that the higher octane gas burns faster? Common sense would tell me yes.. but does anyone know technically?
It actually burns slower. when you hear a knock with lower octane gas, it's becuase the mixture has ignited before the top of the power stroke in a cylinder
Old Oct 9, 2005 | 01:09 PM
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I use 93 up in my 03 tl-s. I only have three options here 87 89 93. 93 is close enough for me.
Old Oct 9, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pzero23
I use 93 up in my 03 tl-s. I only have three options here 87 89 93. 93 is close enough for me.
Wish we had 93 in the So Cal....

But we dont so i use Chevron 91 everytime!
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 08:02 AM
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so i was weird today - i mixed 89 with 93 .... aprox 50/50 ..... haha ...... i wont continute to do this - will go premium most likely.
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 11:17 AM
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i think mixing 89 and 93 is the best solution unless you can buy 91 directly. if you alternate 89 and 93 (before your tank is empty) this should give you an octane level that is ideal for the car, at an average lower price than all 93. there is no reason that i am aware of to buy 93 or higher all the time in terms of what's good for the car.
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 11:22 AM
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is 91 premium or middle???

most gas here is 87, 89, (91 or 93)

does it matter between 91 and 93???
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by morninglight
John Eagle Acura - in houston - says to use the middle grade........ no one has "91" in houston.......

im wondering if i should combo premium and middle?
Refer to this thread by A-Train about octane ratings. This is the 3rd paragraph from the bottom and pretty much says it all.

Originally Posted by Atrain
By using a higher octane fuel, the engine is less likely to ping or knock. Engineers can dial in more spark and gain more power. It also ensures the engine won't ping when loaded with a locked-up torque converter (5AT only), the air conditioning on and climbing a grade. So should you use 94 octane in your 2004-2005 Acura TL? No, you can use it, but you are wasting your money. Using more octane won't hurt anything (unless it's leaded fuel with 100+ octane), but using less octane can be bad. Especially if your engine has hypereutectic pistons. With any engine that has Knock Sensors, using less octane than what is required will almost always set them off and reduce performance. It also reduces efficiency of the engine since after all, what determines power output is how well it burns the fuel. Will fuel economy suffer, yes. How much? It's hard to say and there are many factors that contribute to the economy and spark timing at WOT is critical to making maximum power, not efficiency. So using 87 octane in the TL will almost always result in reduced performance due to the KS.
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by dooky211
Wish we had 93 in the So Cal....

But we dont so i use Chevron 91 everytime!

Same here!!

91 it is.... "I got no where else to go"!!!

89...
You spent so much on the car, you might as well spend a little more on gas.

Or get a Hyundai..
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 04:19 PM
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I use the cheapest 91 grade I can find here in California.
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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I usually go to the cheapest place that's convenient when I need to fill up. If they only have 91, I'll get it, but most places here have 93 (87, 89, 93). Bottom line, premium.
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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I put in 93...occasionally 89- at a full service station an employee put 87 one time ... I could only feel the difference
so mobil 93 here- i also live in CT

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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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I know it's sacreligious, but I've been puting 87 or whatever the cheapest gas is since I've had my TL. Although I did put premium in for one month to see if there was a difference and acording to my figures my MPG dropped by about 3-4 miles when I was on the good stuff. So go figure,.. I mean, I haven't heard any knocks or pinging and the car runs like a champ.
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 05:25 PM
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I'm sure a lot of people will disagree with me, but extra octane (essentially a flame retardant to prevent pre-ignition) does nothing. If the car is designed to run on 91 octane, that is the ideal gas. Anything less will allow the car to run, but probably not as efficiently. All cars have a knock sensor, so if preigntion occurs, then the timing will be automatically retarded somewhat to prevent further preignition. If a car is designed to run on 87 octane, then using 91 or better provides no benefit. Also, all gas is essentially the same, regardless of brand. They are all required to have certain detergents according to federal law, but I seriously doubt there is any major difference from dealer to dealer (I guess it depends on who has the best marketing strategy). Also, octane numbers vary depending on where you live and the altitude you reside at. My brother lives in Colorado and he typically sees regular gas with an 85 octane number (up in the mountains) vs. the normal 87 seen at lower altitudes.
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 06:12 PM
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Sunoco is the only place around here that sells 91. If I need gas when I'm passing a Sunoco, I'll buy the 91. Otherwise, I use 93. It is not worth it to drive out of my way to find a Sunoco just to buy 91 octane because the price savings is not enough to offset the waste of gas involved in driving there; also, some of the other stations around are enough cheaper than the nearest Sunoco (probably because the Sunoco is by itself, whereas the others are on a street with several gas stations) that I sometimes pay less for 93 than I would for 91.
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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89 always. 91 on long hauls for added distance.
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