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Old Aug 9, 2019 | 11:12 PM
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swapping TL engine into 06 Dodge Charger

I was wondering if the tl engine bolts up to the charger transmission or do I just swap transmissions and ecu?
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Old Aug 9, 2019 | 11:20 PM
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Ummm, quite literally, no chance in hell. Sorry.
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Old Aug 10, 2019 | 04:42 AM
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One of these threads again?
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Old Aug 10, 2019 | 06:49 AM
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the v6 charger is rear wheel drive. the TL is front wheel drive. the two engines are placed/orientated or packaged differently. the v6 chargers engine is placed longitudinally, while the TL's engine is placed transversally.
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Old Aug 10, 2019 | 09:17 AM
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Old Aug 10, 2019 | 10:29 AM
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Try it and report back!
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Old Aug 10, 2019 | 01:21 PM
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With enough time and money, anything is possible. Why would you want to do this though?
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Old Aug 11, 2019 | 10:51 AM
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should be pretty much a direct bolt up OP, maybe need an adapter or two

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Old Aug 11, 2019 | 03:16 PM
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Dodge 3.5 engine is shit when it comes to power I been doing some research on the Honda and Acura engines for more power
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Old Aug 11, 2019 | 05:45 PM
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The 3.5 in the Charger has 250HP! You're trying to fit a round peg into a triangular hole for 36HP.
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Old Aug 11, 2019 | 07:37 PM
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Dodge 3.5 engine is shit when it comes to power I been doing some research on the Honda and Acura engines for more power
Ummm, why the trash talking? Maybe your research is faulty. I don't know, after your opening question, maybe your brain is faulty.

The thing is, the 3.5 liter Dodge motor was a very reliable and pretty much final design of the old late 1980s to early 1990s 3.3 liter minivan pushrod engine. That it put out 250 hp given its humble beginnings is pretty impressive. As for Honda J engines (a mid-1990s design), the various versions of the J35 as of 2006 the HP output was either 244, 247, 255, 265, or 286 (only in the RL), while in all cases, the torque numbers ranged from 240 to 256 were virtually identical to the 250 of the Dodge motor.

Funny thing though, fast forward a few years (2010 to be precise) and the new 3.6 liter engine available in the Charger was more than a match for any normally aspirated Honda J-Series engine produced so far.

Taking this discussion to its logical (if not absurd and silly) conclusion, if you really want an engine change, you would have far more luck dropping a 300 hp Chrysler Pentastar 3.6 into your Charger than any Honda motor ever produced.

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Old Aug 11, 2019 | 08:43 PM
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Ummm, why the trash talking? Maybe your research is faulty. I don't know, after your opening question, maybe your brain is faulty.

The thing is, the 3.5 liter Dodge motor was a very reliable and pretty much final design of the old late 1980s to early 1990s 3.3 liter minivan pushrod engine. That it put out 250 hp given its humble beginnings is pretty impressive. As for Honda J engines (a mid-1990s design), the various versions of the J35 as of 2006 the HP output was either 244, 247, 255, 265, or 286 (only in the RL), while in all cases, the torque numbers ranged from 240 to 256 were virtually identical to the 250 of the Dodge motor.

Funny thing though, fast forward a few years (2010 to be precise) and the new 3.6 liter engine available in the Charger was more than a match for any normally aspirated Honda J-Series engine produced so far.

Taking this discussion to its logical (if not absurd and silly) conclusion, if you really want an engine change, you would have far more luck dropping a 300 hp Chrysler Pentastar 3.6 into your Charger than any Honda motor ever produced.
286 was also the 3G TL-S number

or the 5.7 frankly, probably an easily swap than a honda j series....
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Old Aug 11, 2019 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by seinfeld-bassline
286 was also the 3G TL-S number
Agreed, but not in 2006.

Originally Posted by seinfeld-bassline
or the 5.7 frankly, probably an easily swap than a honda j series....
Agreed, if you're going to muck around with an engine swap, put in a REAL engine.
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Old Aug 11, 2019 | 11:35 PM
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Hell. Good idea! 💡


Get a salvage 5.7 Charger or Ram and throw that bitch in there, run the wires and voila!


Mopar parts are chrap and readily available, probably some of the easiest engines to find at a junkyard.

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Old Aug 12, 2019 | 11:12 AM
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Yeah should be plug and play
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Old Aug 12, 2019 | 12:42 PM
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It won't be plug and play, but I think some people are forgetting that people us honda engines in rwd configurations quite frequently on many different platforms. You can find transmission adapter plates online for k series, J series, etc...Most of those adapter plates are meant to be used with GM transmissions, but it is doable.

Of course you would need custom engine mounts, wiring, ecu, etc...Then they is the issue of oil pan clearance & exhaust.
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Old Aug 12, 2019 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
Yeah should be plug and play
Originally Posted by 05 Acura TL
It won't be plug and play, but I think some people are forgetting that people us honda engines in rwd configurations quite frequently on many different platforms. You can find transmission adapter plates online for k series, J series, etc...Most of those adapter plates are meant to be used with GM transmissions, but it is doable.

Of course you would need custom engine mounts, wiring, ecu, etc...Then they is the issue of oil pan clearance & exhaust.
Sarcasm is a lost art
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Old Aug 12, 2019 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSauceBoss
Sarcasm is a lost art
I personally try avoid sarcasm on forums, I would rather help some, regardless of how crazy their idea or question it, however I do enjoy seeing other people use it. lol
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Old Aug 12, 2019 | 12:53 PM
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Old Aug 12, 2019 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 05 Acura TL
I personally try avoid sarcasm on forums, I would rather help some, regardless of how crazy their idea or question it, however I do enjoy seeing other people use it. lol
The problem is, it's much more difficult to pick up on when it's simple text on a forum....you lose all the nonverbal cues like tone and inflection that make it obvious when you're just talking to someone in person.

But to your point, yeah, answering straightforward is more helpful lol. Forget the J series OP, do an LS1 swap!
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Old Aug 12, 2019 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 05 Acura TL
I personally try avoid sarcasm on forums, I would rather help some, regardless of how crazy their idea or question it, however I do enjoy seeing other people use it. lol

Give it a few years..

after the one thousandth question of "will it fit" or "can i do it" with the OP never following through, you'll resort to sarcasm as well
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Old Aug 12, 2019 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSauceBoss
Sarcasm is a lost art
Tell me about it.

Originally Posted by thoiboi
Give it a few years..

after the one thousandth question of "will it fit" or "can i do it" with the OP never following through, you'll resort to sarcasm as well
OP probably just had access to a TL sitting around when his Charger blew up and wanted to make the J32 fit...

A basic J32 ain't making a Charger do anything cool, so it's not that...

It also shows OP would rather fix a Charger instead of a TL... @blasphemy
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Old Aug 12, 2019 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by gatrhumpy
The 3.5 in the Charger has 250HP! You're trying to fit a round peg into a triangular hole for 36HP.
You forgot the Honda Horsepower Factor.
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Old Aug 12, 2019 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by cu2wagon
You forgot the Honda Horsepower Factor.
Yeah, but what about the torque factor?
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