i work for acura as a tech. our dealership has done 0 3rd gen automatic transmissions. we did have 1 manual trans that would not go into reverse. there is nothing to worry about. i actually used to work at infiniti and we did about 6 g35 auto trannies in 2003. that is 6x more g35 trannies going bad than tl trannies. the second gen tl/cls are the ones that have the problems. we do those all the time and we put updated remans which are better than the factory units and we also replace the ecus with updated ones. the mdx is the only other acura that we see trans problems and those were only the 2001-02 which are now being recalled. silver bullet has recieved bad information. if anyone has questions about what happens at acura dealers feel free to ask me and not get information second hand from an infiniti owner. silverbullet unless you are working at an acura dealer please do not say what is going on at one. you are just missinforming people.

 

Yes I think we figured that out. I am not worried at all about my tranny.....that is what happens when you buy a G35 over a 04 TL....YOU START HATING!

 

Here we go AGAIN...

 

thanks for the info nick i think most of us on the board know that its only the second gen TL's that have the tranny problems. i hope anyone who was interested in getting the 5AT 04 TL does not believe that there is a proble because there have really been none reported.

 

Er...Uh...my other car is an '02 Acura 3.2 TL. What exactly is the problem? I have not had any problems with the tranny - has there been a lot of recalls etc for the tranny?

We bought it new in May 2001.

 

Bad information when I posted proof of pictures and everything? Please go back and read the old tl forum to see how long it took for the TL and CL to start showing signs. It took it a while.

Also everyone knwos that remans are never better than the original. This is with experience on other honda products as well not just TL/CL.

All 5spd Auto trannys in the honda line have problems.
Sorry but my informatin was a fact and not misinformed. Maybe your dealer didn't get any because its not as busy as the other dealers.

Sorry, but pictures are worth a 1000 words.

 

You weer told to stay out of it, I suggest you do so or get banned again.

 

you have got to be kidding. i am an acura tech. we have 12 techs in our shop. are shop is one of the busiest in the country. we were the #1 acura certiried used car dealer in the country. we are also acura precision team you have a picture of one trans. you are just trying to start trouble. you should come to my dealer and wait there for an 04 tl auto trans to come in. you may have to quit your job beacuse i think you will be waiting a while.

 

there are no recalls for your car. we just happen to replace a lot of second gen tl/cl trannies.

 

What amazes me is how one persons or dealers experiences are blown out to portray the entire universe of Acura owners. And then, everyone debates ad nauseam about how correct or incorrect that limited experience is. No one here, either as an individual or working with/through a single dealership in a single city, can make any declarations of trends that affect the entire production run of any car make or model. I'd say when a bunch of unrelated individuals post similar problems on a forum that, yes, a production run problem is indicated. The headliner, rattles, and peeling bumper paint are examples of this. Arguing "he said/she said" over one persons global statements is a waste of time and energy.

 

Where am I starting trouble?! I just posted information about the tranny and in that post I even said this isn't to start anything, its just to inform you guys that the TL is starting to show signs of problems.

Sorry but I even talked to my local Acura dealer and they had a few already with problems! So please quit being biased. I don't care if your the manager of the dealer. You sir are stiring the pot and causing the problems on this website.

 

Exactly, and all my post was doing was showing that it MIGHT be starting and we will see over time if it happens. It wasn't meant to say oh all teh TLs are going to have a problem. Or they aren't. No one knows yet for sure.

 

i was just stating what is happening at one of the busiest acura dealers in the country. i have seen a few headliners and rattles. i can tell you the trends of the entire acura line from my dealership since i have acces to service bullitens, tech tips, and if i have a question about anything i have access to acura tech line. we are pretty much updated about everything. we knew about the mdx recall before the even sent out the recall notice.

 

1 TL having the problem isnt a real start of having problems, now if 5 or 10 do, thats a problem starting

 

I have a hard time believing that your dealer is more busy than any dealer in the USA, especially one that is located in CALI which is known for busyness period. PA is not a busy state.

 

You posted a pic of one car, with an unknown history, along with a second-hand statement from a mechanic that stated he has replaced one, not five or ten or a hundred, but one automatic transmission in an 04 TL.

 

Like I said in my last post, only time will tell. The information was not misinformed by any means.

 

Not just one, a few. In that post he only mentioned one with the pictures. He has done a few already, and the local dealer here has already had a few.

 

there are only two delears near philadelphia so you do the math. how many millions of ppl in philly. ok only two dealers to provide acuras for all of philadelphia and the suburbs. how many techs are there at this dealership were you get so much "credible information". lol.

 

do you work there? if you do not work for acura i think you should stop posting this crap. how about i tell you all the crap that was wrong with your g35

 

Talk about a boogie man. This whole thing is ridiculous.

1. Despite internet chatter and anecdotal dealer evidence, the Acura transmissions have a very good to excellent record.
2. If an Acura transmission fails, Acura almost always takes care of it. I personally have not heard of any exceptions to this, but I'm sure that a handful exist somewhere - probably recalcitrant owners (sound like anybody we know?).
3. Look at how Acura handled the small % of TL problems - they extended the warranty to 100,000 miles.
4. Look at how Acura is handling a hint of an issue on the MDX - doing a preemptive recall and fxing the problem.
5. I have been lucky enough to PAY for three bad transmissions on other brands. All of the 6 Hondas and Acuras I have had did not have any transmission problems or major problems of any nature.

 

My friends information is just as good as yours. Why should anyone listen to you?! Your informatin is no better than what I gave as well.

 

1) Everyone knows this is not true. Everyone. In regards to the 5ATs only.

2) Yes

3) I wouldn't consider extending a warranty to 100k helping the problem, it only delays it instead of getting it resolved.

 

But what you don't know is how many cars are affected. I've never seen a TSB that didn't start out with "this applies to a relatively few number of affected cars and/or only under extreme conditions". That's the nature of the business. I do agree that you can pretty much assume that once a problem makes it to a TSB/service bulletin level that there are a healthy number of cars affected.

 

Why should any of us take what either of you are saying as gospel?

 

I am getting in on this conversation late but I am not seeing why silverbulletcls would post false information. After all he does own an Acura CLS doesnt he? I cant imagine someone would waste so much time posting misleading information because he wants to justify the purchase of a G35.
I had two trannies replace in my CLS and I now have a MANUAL TL so I dont anticipate any problems.
I think that the Acura Tech is speaking fron HIS experience at HIS dealership and SilverBullet is relaying his information which is probably true as well. Because the 04 TL is a new model its too early to say that the 04 TL does NOT have a tranny problem. Most of the 01-02 CL's trannies went bad around 15,000 miles.
I would certainly hope that Honda has solved the tranny problem and that it was isolated to the 01-and 02 models. I have driven honda/acura for the past 12 years and would not hesitate to buy again if they had a model I liked. However due to my experience with my CL(and my friends mdx) I would not recommend Honda Automatic transmissions until a few years pass.

 

I use to own a CL-S but after the 2nd tranny, I was fed up with it. I haev a G35 now.

And everythign you said is what I have said as well. But these guys don't want to hear it. Just like a few years ago the CL/TL guys didn't want to hear it also but then it just happened.

 

silverbullet just got OWNED!!!!!!!!!!! :fingerfawk:

 

Haven't been owned yet. Dream on. If this site is about owning people, you need to get a life.

 

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Clearly you're sitting by the 'puter eagerly waiting the next post ...

 

yeah you are right about acura tsbs. that was the nice thing about infiniti they would tell you right on the tsb how many vehicles were affected.

 

BTW silver -- for the record I had three tranny failures. Instead of crying about it, I fought Acura, and helped four other members on this board w/ TypeS's fight Acura thru BBB and they got complete buybacks, 100%. I got a pretty sweet deal myself, I didn't just walk away w/ my tails b/w my legs and drop $$ on another car. That's how you can make a difference using this board and helping others at the same time, not just your own ego. I went as high up in the f--king company to get answers, and to demand Acura do something. I had the option of taking cash and walking, or taking the '04. After hearing what I've heard from the various levels of the company thru my little journey, I am confident in this tranny. However, only TIME will tell what the hell will happen to this tranny, not a couple hi-res shots of a tranny failure and Silver's friend at Acura.

 

for some reason i really like peter

 

Like I said, there is no ego here as you may think. It was INFORMATION regarding the tranny. If you don't want to accept it, DON'T REPLY.

 

enough of this nonsense.

grow up people...