I was curious if anyone knew how far you should push the RPM's.

5,000?
6,000?
7,000?
Your Pushing Too Hard?

With my TL still looking for places to go.

 

Mine has a rev limiter and it's not me.

 

Don't know, but good question.

I'm still in break-in on my MT, but I see no reason not to take it to the redline later on. At the moment, though, I am being kind to my engine: 2k-4.5k range mostly.

However, I had a scary moment yesterday when my wet boot slipped off the clutch as I was going into first, entering/crossing a street in heavy traffic. Before I realized that I had not engaged the gear, I had pushed the gas pedal down for a few seconds before I realized that all I was doing was high-revving (in the red) in neutral. (The music was way, way, loud, about 30 ...) Anyway, I about had a heart attack... :banghead:

 

Thats true, it has a rev limiter. Got to use mine yesterday. Decided to take a long ride just to drive the car. Two lane road, two slow cars in front of me, other lane with car, looked far enough away to safely pass.

Put it in SS, went down to 2nd, hit the gas and passed. Forgot the first rule of passing-the faster you go the sooner you will get to the other car coming at you in his lane.

Was watching him and just looked down to check the tach when the rev limiter kicked in. Funny feeling, cycled on/off about 5 times before I kicked it in 3d and made it back in but not with a lot of room to spare.

Wife said don't do that again.

 

I think mine might. I had the tunes super loud and was coming off ramp onto the highway and only saw road ahead. Threw it into low and put my foot down. With the music up I couldn't hear the rev and when I looked I was just passing 7,000 and I kind of felt a flutter (hesitation) just before I shifted up.

Kind of pissed at myself. But couldn't believe how fast I was up to the 50mph mark.

 

I saw a prepped car at the dealer in your color today. It was gorgeous. So was the green one with camel.

I haven't really seen a bad one yet. We have a nice selection.

Even the white looks good and I don't usually like white because they're the most popular in Florida. But, on the TL, it is sharp.

 

Whew! Did the same thing. Kind of scared me. Probably not a smart idea with only 500 miles on it. Time to baby it for a bit.

 

Acura says:

A variety of safety features help protect the engine and drivetrain from damage. The transmission will upshift from first to second automatically if the driver doesn't command an upshift in time. In second, third and fourth, the transmission won't upshift without a command from the driver; the ECU cuts off fuel flow to the engine if there is danger of over-revving the engine. The transmission will upshift itself to prevent engine damage in the rare situation where the fuel cutoff alone is unable to prevent further engine over revving (as could happen on a steep downhill).

When downshifting, the transmission won't execute a driver-commanded downshift that would send the engine beyond redline in the lower gear. To prevent lugging away from a stop in a high gear, the Sequential SportShift transmission will automatically downshift to first gear as it comes to a stop, even in manual mode.

:facelick:

 

I had a WRX on my tail and decided to see what my MT6 would do - I hit 100 in 3rd when i looked at the tach and saw it crossing 7,000. I didn't feel any rev limiter so i guess there was a little left. This engine loves to rev. I do wish the redline on the tach was more visable - dark red on black isn't that easy to see but it probably wouldn't have made any difference.

 

if you are trying to see how fast the TL can go i would hold hte rpm's just before redline. the vtec switches to the other lobe at around 4500rpm so so i usually ride that to 6500 and shift. this will keep the rpms up and the vtec engaged. i have to say that 1-2-3 are the fastest gears on the car as far as acceleration is concerned. 4th is nice but doesn't have the same pull as the lower gears.

 

Why is everybody looking at their tach????

When it hits the rev limiter, shift..... you know it is up there and you will NOT get any more out of that gear....

 

I don't have a problem running up to redline, that's what the car is designed for.
I will hold the revs to around 4,000rpm when the engine is cold, and not floor it, until the temp needle starts coming up. But after that, if needed, I'll happily run it up there. It's fun. It sounds cool. The engine would probably take 300-400 more rpms past the redline, before it grenades. And even then, I think you'd have to hold it there awhile. The TLs engine has a forged crank, and 4-bolt mains. It's built pretty damn good.

 

I didn't know they went to a 4 bolt main on the '04 TL. The '02 and '03 TL Type S were two bolt mains. Here's a link.

And that's even an MDX block...

-edit-

I just saw the other two bolts actually go through the sides! That's bizarre!

 

That's common in European engines.
There's several Mercedes blocks that have 6-bolt mains. Four up, and two through the sides. Bolted together pretty well, huh?
Those are some cool pics, thanks for posting that link.

 

I have red lined many times. Never had a rev limiter issue.
It all in the pedal...

 

it wont hurt the car to go to redline. if it did they would set it lower(redline) and the revlimiter is there to prevent you from going further to damage anything. (i have almost 142k on my engine now and it has hit redline damn near as many times as i have miles)

 

For the first time, I got my TL up near red-line. I didn't receive any feedback indicating that the rev-limiter had kicked in. However, the engine light (MIL) in the instrument panel started to flash. It continued to flash for about 5 seconds after I eased up on the throttle. Does anyone know if this behavior is by design? Did any of you who hit the rev-limiter experience this?

- Shemp

 

For me, when I hit the rev limiter, it is like jabbing on the brakes. The acceleration is gone, none. I have never kept it on the limiter as I quickly shift so I do not know what it is like after about 1/2 second.

 

Holy schmoly... does that mean the 5AT owners can voice command a shift?!?!?! Cool! I want a 5AT!!

Shift! Shift! Shift! Sh!t... I mean Shift!

LOL... just kidding, I'll stick with my Manually commanded 6MT.

 

Not sure if there is another location to post this message. If so, please re-direct. I found a web site which talked about breaking in the engine. Not sure if anyone agrees with this guy. Any advice is appreciated.

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

2004/SSM/Ebony/6MT On Order

 

ndcomand meaning up shifting with your hand. like commanding the gears to up shift by pushing on the SS unlike it doing it itself.

 

Hitting the rev limiter is a little unpleasant if you're not expecting it. If you keep on the gas after hitting the rev limiter, you basically end up coasting until you're at a speed where the CPU allows the throttle to kick in again. So the result is kind of a boing-boing-boing-boing up above redline (at least with a MT). Rev limiter is at 7400 RPM in my TSX, but I think it's a few hundred less in the TL. Gotta love these Honda engines :worship:

 

yep. hit mine a few times (darn that engine is quiet).

I generally shift around 6300 as it feels like the power curve goes down from there.

 

the ECU cuts the engine power once you hit the redline. check out a horsepower graph and youl see how the horsepower drops at the redline.

 

and you'll also see how it drops way before redline. shifting at redline does not equal best acceleration.