Proposed Settlement Class for Honda/Acura
11-29-2006, 07:12 PM
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Proposed Settlement Class for Honda/Acura
Okay so I just got a letter in the mail from the US District Court Eastern District of Texas Marshall Division saying we were involved in some BS if we bought a car between April 13th 2002 thru Nov. 7 2006 about the Federal Odometer Act. Did anyone else get this letter - I'm sure someone did. What is this about? What does it mean? Is there something we need to do? Any help would be great.
11-29-2006, 07:33 PM
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it might see that the place you bought your car from changed the odometer on the cars they sold for to profit. Thats what i can think of based on your description in an quick sentence
11-29-2006, 07:41 PM
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If anyone cares the web site on the letter is www.odosettlementinfo.com Any help and advise would be great!
11-29-2006, 08:20 PM
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I did not receive a letter, but reviewed the website FAQs. Essentially, the plaintiffs allege that Honda vehicles overstate the mileage, which Honda denies. They are offering a potential settlement, pending approval in May 2007, which will
1) Automatically extend the warranty miles for anyone who purchased a Honda/Acura vehicle in the U.S. within the time period by an additional 5%. You do not need to take any action to get this.
2) They will reimburse you if your incurred repair expense outside the warranty claim, but within the new 5% limit. See the faq to file.
3) You can exclude yourself from the class action settlement if you want to sue Honda on your own for damages. You must take action to file the exclusion by April 2007.
Not a big deal for most people. Note I am not a lawyer, so this is merely my interpretation of the material - read at your own risk...
1) Automatically extend the warranty miles for anyone who purchased a Honda/Acura vehicle in the U.S. within the time period by an additional 5%. You do not need to take any action to get this.
2) They will reimburse you if your incurred repair expense outside the warranty claim, but within the new 5% limit. See the faq to file.
3) You can exclude yourself from the class action settlement if you want to sue Honda on your own for damages. You must take action to file the exclusion by April 2007.
Not a big deal for most people. Note I am not a lawyer, so this is merely my interpretation of the material - read at your own risk...
11-29-2006, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by KatyTL
So my question would be ... how do you know if it is overstating your mileage?
Example: Your car/odometer might say you went one mile but in all reality you only went 0.9 miles....
11-29-2006, 10:32 PM
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I checked my 04 when I first got it. Drove on the interstate 20 miles, and it was 1% off. Did the same thing coming home and still 1%, which is not bad. Not many cars are perfect in this area.
So if it's 5% added, we will get 4 years/52,500 miles warranty out of this.
So if it's 5% added, we will get 4 years/52,500 miles warranty out of this.
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11-29-2006, 11:41 PM
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Search the CL forums..there are a couple of threads on this.
Thats nice, would you like to import the information to the TL section so we don't have to read about it in the CL section. Seeing as how it will affect more than one model...
11-30-2006, 10:10 AM
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Ok so I eMailed the attorney for this settlement and he said...
"Assuming you bought you car in the US, there is no need for you to test it. You are a member of the class and will receive the warranty extensions regardless of whether your car is actually running fast.
If you have more questions, drop me another note or call me at 903.657.2800.
James Holmes"
"Assuming you bought you car in the US, there is no need for you to test it. You are a member of the class and will receive the warranty extensions regardless of whether your car is actually running fast.
If you have more questions, drop me another note or call me at 903.657.2800.
James Holmes"
02-21-2007, 08:38 AM
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What about us living in Canada? Our TL'S have been built in the USA, what are the steps that we should take to be a part of this extended warranty due to the added miles/kms?
thanks you
ps: My TL is a 2004
thanks you
ps: My TL is a 2004
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Got this from a newspaper article...check it out!
Faulty Honda Odometers
Last Update: Feb 21, 2007 7:56 AM
Posted By: CyberBob
Millions of people who own Hondas and Acuras may be getting their warranties extended. It's all part of a lawsuit settlement involving 2002 through 2006 models. Honda says the miles on the odometers rolled up too fast. Some customers will get extended warranties, while others may get cash back.
A lawyer in the lawsuit that resulted in Honda's moves now is aiming at Nissan, alleging that its Altima sedans back to 2002 roll up miles 2.5% to 3% too fast. Nissan has filed a motion to dismiss the lawsuit but wouldn't say more because it doesn't comment on pending litigation.
The lawyer, James Holmes of Henderson, Texas, says he's tested Toyotas and, oddly, found them to routinely register slightly fewer miles than actually driven. Detroit brands, he says, "by and large are perfect."
Holmes suspects odometers deliberately are set fast to help automakers trim warranty costs. But the car companies say they're just following an industry wide standard that allows a few percent variation in odometer accuracy.
The Society of Automotive Engineers' voluntary standard is plus or minus 4%, or no more than 4 miles high or low in every 100 miles. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says it doesn't regulate odometer accuracy.
Honda says its odometers were accurate to within 3.75% on the high side and 1% on the low side, within the SAE standard. But it says it will extend the warranty mileage 5% and will pay lease-mileage penalties due to fast odometers, at least $6 million just for overcharges on vehicles leased directly from Honda.
Honda Reports of Faulty Odometers in Some Vehicles
4:48 PM Feb 19, 2007
Millions of Honda owners are about to get a letter in the mail from the automaker about the odometer on their cars.
Honda has decided to settle a lawsuit over inaccurate odometer readings.
The odometers piled up mileage too fast compared to how far the cars were driven.
Six million owners of Hondas and Acuras made between 2002 and 2006 are affected.
They may be entitled to warranty extensions and even reimbursements.
The lawsuit was brought by people who leased Hondas and had to pay excess mileage penalties.
Faulty Honda Odometers
Last Update: Feb 21, 2007 7:56 AM
Posted By: CyberBob
Millions of people who own Hondas and Acuras may be getting their warranties extended. It's all part of a lawsuit settlement involving 2002 through 2006 models. Honda says the miles on the odometers rolled up too fast. Some customers will get extended warranties, while others may get cash back.
A lawyer in the lawsuit that resulted in Honda's moves now is aiming at Nissan, alleging that its Altima sedans back to 2002 roll up miles 2.5% to 3% too fast. Nissan has filed a motion to dismiss the lawsuit but wouldn't say more because it doesn't comment on pending litigation.
The lawyer, James Holmes of Henderson, Texas, says he's tested Toyotas and, oddly, found them to routinely register slightly fewer miles than actually driven. Detroit brands, he says, "by and large are perfect."
Holmes suspects odometers deliberately are set fast to help automakers trim warranty costs. But the car companies say they're just following an industry wide standard that allows a few percent variation in odometer accuracy.
The Society of Automotive Engineers' voluntary standard is plus or minus 4%, or no more than 4 miles high or low in every 100 miles. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says it doesn't regulate odometer accuracy.
Honda says its odometers were accurate to within 3.75% on the high side and 1% on the low side, within the SAE standard. But it says it will extend the warranty mileage 5% and will pay lease-mileage penalties due to fast odometers, at least $6 million just for overcharges on vehicles leased directly from Honda.
Honda Reports of Faulty Odometers in Some Vehicles
4:48 PM Feb 19, 2007
Millions of Honda owners are about to get a letter in the mail from the automaker about the odometer on their cars.
Honda has decided to settle a lawsuit over inaccurate odometer readings.
The odometers piled up mileage too fast compared to how far the cars were driven.
Six million owners of Hondas and Acuras made between 2002 and 2006 are affected.
They may be entitled to warranty extensions and even reimbursements.
The lawsuit was brought by people who leased Hondas and had to pay excess mileage penalties.
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is the decision taken yet? i never got a message from my dealership informing me of this lawsuit and this odometer problem.
Should i go up and bring it up to them for what the decision will be?
Keep us posted please
Should i go up and bring it up to them for what the decision will be?
Keep us posted please
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Go to the web site and read the documents.
If you bought your car in the US during the time in question you are automatically a member of the class for this action, and you don't have to do anything. It will extend your warrenty or lease mileage by 5% but not the time period of the warrenty or lease.
The court hearing is in Texas in late March. The letter on the web site gives the court date.
I think (but I'm not sure) that this case applies only to new car purchases -- or that only original purchasers will get letters of notification (since Honda has no reliable way of knowing who buys their cars used).
If you bought your car in the US during the time in question you are automatically a member of the class for this action, and you don't have to do anything. It will extend your warrenty or lease mileage by 5% but not the time period of the warrenty or lease.
The court hearing is in Texas in late March. The letter on the web site gives the court date.
I think (but I'm not sure) that this case applies only to new car purchases -- or that only original purchasers will get letters of notification (since Honda has no reliable way of knowing who buys their cars used).
07-16-2007, 12:30 PM
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this is as bad as the guy who started a class action lawsuit against Western Digital because he's an idiot. He sued them because when an 80GB HDD is formatted it doesn't have a full 80GB available for storage. Bunch of morons trying to make money, if Honda and the others are within the regulated standard then maybe the standard needs to be changed.
07-16-2007, 01:50 PM
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...if Honda and the others are within the regulated standard then maybe the standard needs to be changed.
At +5%, Honda is outside the +4% standard. That is the problem. I wonder if this applies to customer purchased extended warranties also?
07-16-2007, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 94eg!
At +5%, Honda is outside the +4% standard. That is the problem. I wonder if this applies to customer purchased extended warranties also?
http://www.odosettlementinfo.com/Vau...d%20Notice.pdf
Warranty Extension. Honda will extend the mileage limitations of all warranties by 5%. This extension will include the mileage-based coverage periods of (a) original warranties that came with the Class Vehicles when initially sold or leased, (b) all Honda extended warranties made applicable to the Class Vehicles after they were sold or leased and which are effective prior to the date of final approval, (c) all Honda service contracts applicable to new Class Vehicles, and (d) the original warranties that come with the purchase of a Certified Used Honda or Acura automobile.
07-16-2007, 03:12 PM
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Not a factor for many like myself where we will hit the 4 year mark prior to the miledge.... IE - my 04TL only has 30K and the warranty will expire this Dec..
However, if you have been driving 13K miles a year or more it may give you an extra month or so.....
However, if you have been driving 13K miles a year or more it may give you an extra month or so.....
07-16-2007, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 94eg!
At +5%, Honda is outside the +4% standard. That is the problem. I wonder if this applies to customer purchased extended warranties also?
I read this:
The Society of Automotive Engineers' voluntary standard is plus or minus 4%, or no more than 4 miles high or low in every 100 miles. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says it doesn't regulate odometer accuracy.
Honda says its odometers were accurate to within 3.75% on the high side and 1% on the low side, within the SAE standard. But it says it will extend the warranty mileage 5% and will pay lease-mileage penalties due to fast odometers, at least $6 million just for overcharges on vehicles leased directly from Honda.
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