As you guys know based on my past few threads over the last month or so I have been having performance fever and now have a new need for speed. So I've done a little research (not that much mind you) on performance chips and performance tuners and am thinking of getting one for my car to make it faster. I came across one for $69.99 that claims to increase power by 60 hp, however I am highly skeptical of its quality and whether it really does give out that much more horsepower. Which would you recommend between the two? I am curious to know the increases of horsepower and torque, how much a good quality performance chip or performance tuner and if any of these any of these products will have a harmful effect on my vehicle's engine?

 

Wha? You don't say???

 

Do some more research.

 

look to spend 500 to 1000 bucks depending on the year

 

Which gives you more for your money between the two?

 

Well....for one, one is a total scam so bang for buck = zero.... So, you do the math...

 

I immediately had doubts about the performance chip being that it is being sold at such a low price and is so claimed to produce 60 more horsepower to the vehicles engine through the the car's built in computer.

 

Trust your Instincts

 

Does anybody know a good brand of performance tuner for our cars that will increase horsepower a good amount without asking for an astronomical price?

 

Say mang!
there are a few real products. UNFORTUNATELY, you have to pay to play.
Hondata is like $500, but if you dont have the right year or transmission, you wont be able to use it.
and some years need additional PARTS to work.

so, all in all, you're looking to spend about $700, IF YOU HAVE THE CORRECT year car that works with HONDATA.

I dont know why you are looking for cheap ass shit.
this car is NOT CHEAP to mod.
get a civic if you want cheap parts!!!

ADDITIONALLY, Hondata will NOT ADD GOBS AND GOBS OF POWER.
with HONDATA, you're looking to smooth out the powerband and increase driveabilty. THATS it.

 

Will Honda take work on a 2005 TL and should there be any concerns on what harm this product may cause to my car's engine?

 

^if you're are automatic, then NO. Hondata does NOT support 2005 Automatic TL's.

 

Then what other route do I go if I want a product that will tune up my car if this specific product doesn't work with my car?

 

there is an OFF-the-wall solution. but like the nickname i gave it implies, it's off the wall and hard to configure unless you know what you're doing.
check into and research "the Megasquirt 3 piggy back"
I doubt any one sells pigtails any more, so what this would mean is that YOU would have to create a wire harness that hooks up the megasquirt to your car!!!
this requires patience and a little electrical knowledge as you are pinning the wires. EXPECT to pay a lot to have some one pin the wires for you. Also, since the megasquirt is off-the-wall, the software is not as easy as Hondata. you will need to pay some one to then TUNE the piggy back ECU. probably looking at ~ $2500 worth of work here

the only plug and play solution is the Hondata. but it wont work with your car.

 

but again, tuning the car will not give you gobs and gobs of power.

 

Get Bolt ons if you do not already have any then get the tune. If its to good to be true it most likely is not legit. Its your car your talking about so if you have to spend extra its most likely worth it in the long run. A $70 dollar chip is most likely a $3 dollar resistor that tricks your car to run in warm up mode all the time which could end up costing you thousands if it ruins your computer if not more just keep that in mind. Contact me and we can go over options.

Products for: 2005 ACURA TL BASE 6Cyl 3.2L - Excelerate's Honda & Acura Store - Japanese Performance Specialist

 

WOW.... I wouldn't be able to do all that work myself and $2500 is way too much for me to spend! Is that really the only other option after hondata?

 

pretty much, NOPE!
there's only a few tuning solutions. and they wont add gobs and gobs of power, so without being fully bolted on, you're not going to add power with a tune.

so, get busy and get bolted on!!!! then come back and see if any new tunes are available to your car.


I'm pretty much bolted on with my 6MT TL and I havent bought flashpro(Hondata)
not worth the 700-800 dollars for me. thats too much scratch.

 

You get what you pay for bruh. Gotta pay to play.

 

Excelerate for the win!!

 

You probably should consider being a bit more specific in your goals here. How much power are you trying to get? What is your budget for said power gains? As others have stated, there isn't any one single bolt-on or tune that will make a huge power difference. Combining a bunch of these smaller things will eventually get you some gains, but it won't come cheap. There are lots and lots of threads that cover most of this already. You need to put some more effort into researching your journey here. Most paths have already been done by at least one person and is covered somewhere on here.

Biggest thing to remember....there is NO easy/cheap/reliable power boost for this platform.

Search, read up, and then start asking more specific questions.

 

 

when I look back at the money I spent, I cry.
I should have saved that money and put it to more useful things
fuck modding a car.

 

 

Well my intent is to reach 300+ horsepower and also increase torque response. I plan to do this a little at a time however.

 

And how much $$$ do you have budgeted for this goal?

 

Just a heads up SUPPOSEDLY k-tuner works on all automatic models now. however it's still way behind hondata flashpro in capabilities and development. but there is hope for OP getting a tuning solution.

OP please reach out to k-tuner and see what they say!

 

everything we throw at him is too expensive!

 

I learned this many many years ago. My last car that was modded was 2 vehicles ago back in the 2002 time frame. Dumped a few grand since it was fun...then realized it was just going to be a money pit and went to just maintenance mode since then.

300+ and you are looking at $70 ebay chips? Please please do more research before you throw any money doing anything. There are a handful of detailed threads with people that had those goals staying NA. I don't follow those closely, but I know there was a lot of info in those threads. Expect to spend a lot of money to get anywhere near that without spraying. Research is key here...also watch the black market for people selling stuff. Lots of people are getting out of their TLs and parting out their mods they accumulated over the years.

 

Keep reading..




​​​​​​​PS. Get a 6MT

 

When you say that modifying cars is a money pit, does that include maintaining the parts or only purchasing them? I really need to know.

 

I'm not following you question..

Spoiler alert: owning a car means maintaining a car means money. Money pit implies as you start modifying the list starts getting longer and lo her because you will always inadvertently miss something or break something or find something else that needs to be done.

 

My head…hurts



Cars cost money to keep them maintained and running well. Start adding mods to that and that money pile grows. As the money pile grows the car continues to depreciate which ends up with you never end up getting your money back.




Cliff Notes:

​​​​​​​Cars are money pits

 

Welcome to 3G !!!!

 

Well played...






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OK why are you so annoyed? All I'm doing is asking a question because I need to know what I'm getting into before I toss away my money.

 

just do looks and suspension on the TL. It is not going to be breaking any records with or without the ecu tuning unless you are willing to put a few thousand dollars to make boost. This is coming from a guy with a turbo.

Now if you still want to mod the car I recommend some bolt on such high flow pre-cat, j-pipe, and pulley. Those will net the most power per cost.

 

75 shot of nitrous is your best and cheapest bet.

 

You joking right?

 

nope lol. nitrous is cheap. for 500 bucks you can make 75 whp. https://www.amazon.com/Nitrous-Expre...ywords=nitrous