Let me refresh your memory. The title of this thread is "My TL vs. IS350 "

 

Just out of curiosity what kind of times should a TL-6pd put down at the track? I know blktl1 ran a 14.1@99mph which is the best I know of out of a stock TL 6-spd. But what's the average? 14.3@98??

 

Because the thread is titled TL vs. IS350, not TL vs IS250.


And that is why we as consumers are lucky enough to have cars, such as, the TL and G35 available, so we don't pay the premium(Name Brand) that MB, BMW, and Lexus charge. However, with that said, you have to admit that the IS350 overall is a better car than the TL. Is it $8,000 better?? Maybe not, but like I said fortunatley for some of us, who can't afford to spend $40,000+ on a vehicle, we have two fine automobiles available in the TL and G35. Personally, If I had 40+ grand to spend I'd probably go for an E90 330i, simply because I value the superb handling of the bimmer over the mighty power of the IS350. Finally, both cars are great(TL and IS350), like most most cars in this segment, they have there strengths and weakness's. At the end of the day, it comes down to this, is a buyer willing to pay 8 grand more for 40 hp and a slightly more refined vehicle? Either way you can't go wrong driving either of these vehicles. On the other hand he RL is in a totally different class, and appeals to a different audience. Personally, at my age even if I could afford an RL, I would never buy one, maybe if I was in my mid 30's w/a family. Anyway, it comes down to this....to each his own. Enjoy your ride fella's

 

That there is good posting!

 

I agree! Make no mistake, I'm working the TL as hard as I can when racing the IS350.

And Jason, thanks for seeing my side here!

My buddy complained one time that his VDIM kicked in, and that's when I lurched ahead and maintained the lead until I shifted into 4th (probably around 85-90?). Next time he's going to turn it off, maybe that will help him, or maybe that will make him spin even more - We'll see!

I currently have my winter tire setup on too - and if they start spinning even a little through 1st gear, I'm history. Can hang, but never catch up. Our third gear really pulls strong though!

For all you non-believers, this usually take place on RT. 33 in central NJ (Manalapan area), feel free to stop by and see for yourself!

 

Don't feel bad, they just want to hate. It's all fun and games when you get to play like that on the highway with a friend. Some of the IS folks just want to take it to serious, but those of us that enjoy the TL enjoy stories like this. Just keep having fun with the TL and he will have fun with the IS. Who cares if they don't want to believe you. Thank you for a fun post!!!

Jason

 

I agree with both you and Jason, but I think most people here are forgetting that this is a streetrace where anything can happen. They forget things are 90% unequal in street races instead of being all-equal. The point that I was trying to make is that ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL(1/4 mile drag) the IS350 has a 3-4 car lead. The fact of the matter is IS350's are running 13.5-13.9@102-103mph and the TL-6spd's are running 14.1-14.4@98-99mph, these are facts. But like I said street races are hardly ever equal, so anything can happen, in this case it so happend to be a TL edging out an IS350.

 

^^^ Bottomline.

 

Which car is better overall I think depends on one's needs. I don't think you can say one is definitively better overall than the other.

For example, here are a couple of things where the TL is undisputably better than the IS and which would bug me like crazy if I owned the IS no matter how fast it is...

1. Nav - The simple fact that you can use the nav and bluetooth and all of the other functions while the car is moving makes every single Acura nav system better than virtually any of the other nav systems out there. On the IS and all other Lexuses, you are locked out of most nav functions while driving.

2. Space - I wanted an IS350 until I saw that they made it SMALLER on the inside than the old IS300. Don't know WTF Lexus was thinking, but why would they make an entry level sport/luxury 4 door sedan less roomy than a Honda Civic? Now, I can understand that young people who cross shop the IS w/ coupes don't care too much about room, but even the front driver's position is positively cramped compared to the TL.

As for the original purpose for this thread, why is it so hard to believe that some 6 speed TLs *can be* as quick/fast as *some* automatic IS350? For those who really think the IS350 is faster than the TL in any contest of straight line speed, you're just wrong. Some IS350s have been tested to be high 13 sec 1/4 mi cars, but most are running the 1/4 mi in the mid 14s. Guess what the 6 speed TL's 1/4 mi times are? Yup, mid 14s. So, is it such a shock that Wid-TL ran neck and neck w/ an IS350?

 

Thank you, well stated, and very much to the point!!

 

You are right about different needs for different people. I on the other hand am a young single guy, so I don't care much about legroom and such. And why do you use the absolute worst pathetic time for the Lexus and the best times for a TL. I've seen a bunch of TL-6spd's run high 14's, but I know their capable of running better. Like I said before if an owner can't run at least a 13.9 in an IS350 he doesn't deserve to drive it. The bottom line is the IS350 in its SHORT EXISTANCE has run a 13.5@103mph with a BUNCH of 13.6-13.9, while the best time out of a 6-spd TL is a 14.1@99mph. Already we've seen dyno numbers of 260(268with just intake), thats comfortably ahead of a TL 6-spd. Like I said before all things being equal there is no way in hell a 6-spd TL beating an IS350. Personally, I think both cars are great, but come on now, saying a TL-6spd is just as fast as an IS350 in a straightline is just false. All these numbers I just stated are facts, so that's why, I, like everyone else find it hard to believe a TL-6spd running neck and neck with an IS350.

 

It amazes me how much these two cars are compared. How about we finish it up in this thread?

https://acurazine.com/forums/ramblings-12/i-just-vegas-129157/

Here is a nice fresh thread, only 2 pages, you guys can talk about this till you're blue in the face. This is now the official TL vs IS thread.

so have at it...........