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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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mobil 1 shortage....

i guess the last hurricane in the gulf put the hurt on mobil's production....i cant find mobil 1 in 5w30 or 5w20 anywhere....i am going to use castrol syntec 5w30 this time around....
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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Actually u should always use castrol it's true synthetic. Mobile is good but not better.
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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i guess the last hurricane in the gulf put the hurt on mobil's production....i cant find mobil 1 in 5w30 or 5w20 anywhere....i am going to use castrol syntec 5w30 this time around....
I bought Mobil1 5W20 at Walmart last Thursday or Friday.
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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I bought Mobil1 5W20 at Walmart last Thursday or Friday.
seems like a crap shoot every time I got, especially for the 5 quart bottles.
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by chinesestunna
seems like a crap shoot every time I got, especially for the 5 quart bottles.
call them ahead to make sure they have it...
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 12:36 PM
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Actually u should always use castrol it's true synthetic. Mobile is good but not better.
once again, another out of the blue idiot comment.....
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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there's an ad for castrol 5w30 above on this very site actually... edit: see below...

Castrol Motor Oil
Castrol SYNTEC: No 5W30 Motor Oil Maintains Maximum Horsepower Longer

www. CastrolSyntec. com
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Originally Posted by chinesestunna
seems like a crap shoot every time I got, especially for the 5 quart bottles.

same here, but the last 3 or 4 times i have been to walmart, the mobil 1 rack had nothing but 15w50 and a few loose single quart bottles of other grades...i only want the big bottle as it is a 5 quart for 23 bucks, and individual quarts as you probably already know are about 6+bucks a quart....oh well, i guess i will use whatever i can get my hands on for now...last time i went valvoline syntec full synthetic for 19 bucks for a 5.5qt bottle which i thought was a steal...this time around it was the castrol for i think it was 25 bucks, still not a bad deal considering the individual bottles were 6.29 a qt...
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Originally Posted by chairguru22
there's an ad for castrol 5w30 above on this very site actually... edit: see below...

Castrol Motor Oil
Castrol SYNTEC: No 5W30 Motor Oil Maintains Maximum Horsepower Longer

www. CastrolSyntec. com
i couldnt find the coupon....
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 04:01 PM
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Yea, how about u stfu i was helping u out. I fcking hate ppl like u.
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 04:32 PM
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Yea, how about u stfu i was helping u out. I fcking hate ppl like u.
yea, you were really helping with your bias opinion, mobil 1 if also full synthetic, and you offer nothing but your opinion when you say castrol is better then mobil 1, and i wasnt asking for someones opinion on what oil brand to purchase....
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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Autozone currently is selling Castrol Syntec 5 quarts for $29.99 and includes free K&N oil filter.
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 04:37 PM
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ohohoh snap we in trouble...
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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haha no but really where did you try looking? i went to pep boys yesterday and saw some
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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I actually have mobile 1 in my TL. I told the dealer if he can put synthetic for my first oil change. And he said it cost 30$ extra. So i was like screw it since i did not buy the TL just lease, i just let them put the reg oil witch was mobile 1, not even synthetic.
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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Mobile 1 is a pretty average oil. I wouldn't stress over not using it this go around. This could be a good excuse to try a better brand.
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I actually have mobile 1 in my TL. I told the dealer if he can put synthetic for my first oil change. And he said it cost 30$ extra. So i was like screw it since i did not buy the TL just lease, i just let them put the reg oil witch was mobile 1, not even synthetic.
dude, mobil 1 is synthetic...mobil 1 only comes one way, and its full synthetic....

your dealer probably used mobil, and not mobil 1....i am guessing you dont even know what kind of oil is in your car, and since you dont even know what mobil 1 is, then back your ass out of my thread....
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just came off the mobil 1 website, and they have a message right on the front page that says due to hurricane ike they have a shortage issue....
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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Plenty of other good brands of oils out there, world can live without mobile 1 ^_^
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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I just bought 5 qts/filter 2 wks ago at that Autzone $28 discount that comes around every once in awhile. I guess it was good I jumped on that when I did.
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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look for Royal Purple too....granted its not Castrol....but I guarantee its ok
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 10:07 PM
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What's the part # for the mobile 1 oil filter that most use with the mobile 1 oil?
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 11:19 PM
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Royal Purple is awesome, but to expensive. And i have specifcly mobile 1.
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 11:39 PM
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Yeah, I was changing the oil in my other ride this weekend and my local Wal-mart only had the 0w-30 Mobil1, all the other stuff was sold out. I normally use 5w-30 but since it is getting colder, it will work just as well.

Let me ask you guys a question since we are on the subject. Am I the only one that thinks the 5 quart container of Mobil 1 (and other oils I've seen) are more inconvenient than the gallon container? All my vehicles only take 4 quarts and I have 2 containers with an extra quart of oil left in them. Not to mention that I almost always over fill the cars with 1/4 quart when trying to measure using the tick marks on the sides of the container. None of my cars burn oil so I don't use that extra quart until the next oil change. Even if my cars did use oil, it uses less space to keep a 1 quart container in trunk. Oh well, just ranting.
Old Nov 10, 2008 | 08:15 AM
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Try Amsoil

Think about trying Amoil 0w20. If you use their filters you can enjoy extended oil drains with better protection than other oils. They guarantee their oil. In follow their guidlines it states," if you have a lubrication realted problem while using Amsoil, we will fix it." With the extended drains you will save money. Don't take my word for it do some research. I use it in everything I own that needs oil. Check it out
Old Nov 10, 2008 | 08:30 AM
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What the hell is up with this Mobil1 fetish some of you people have?

Other synthetics like Penzoil Platinum, Castrol Syntec, and Valvoline SynPower work just as well. I've been using Penzoil Platinum for the last 2 years and it works fine for over $1 less per quart. Besides, since ExxonMobil is posting beyond insane profits these days, $14.83 BILLION in the last quarter alone, I don't think they don't need my money, NOR YOURS!

Synthetic, yes ......Mobil1, not necessarily.
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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Yeah, I was all about Mobil 1 at first but I might try Amsoil on my next change. My only problem is I can never find the stuff. Honestly, I change it every time the MID tells me to so it really doesn't matter. Oh man, I know I'm going to get flamed on that last sentence.
Old Nov 10, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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I couldnt find Mobil 1 for my last oil change a month ago. I put in Castrol Syntec instead. I dont think there is -that- much of a difference.

But WalMart recently re-stocked their Mobil 1 5-qt jugs and they did go up in price significantly - $26 as opposed to $21 the last time I got one. Castrol Syntec 5W-20 costs $21/5qt jug. I would have tried Valvoline, but they didnt have 5W-20 available in their SynPower.
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Royal Purple is awesome, but to expensive. And i have specifcly mobile 1.
I wouldn't think of running RP in something I plan on keeping for a long time. Too many bad UOAs on it.

Mobil 1 can be a full synthetic, depending on which one you buy. Most M1 offerings are a grp III oil but a couple are a grp IV PAO. Grp III is a more highly refined dino oil but as good in some cases and at least very close to a full grp IV or V true synthetic. Legally, a grp III can advertise as "full synthetic" even though I don't consider it to be.

Castrol is not a true synthetic unless we're talking about "German Castrol" 0-30 or a couple others that aren't available over here and would cost over $12 a quart if you could find it. The rest of the line is mediocre and there's much better oil for the money.

I personally use the Amsoil ACD straight 30wt synthetic diesel oil since it doesn't get that cold around here. No VIIs and it's loaded with Zinc. It's great for my climate since a it's still thinner on a cold winter morning over here than a 5-20 would be in a Canadian winter.
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Originally Posted by TL|GTX
Royal Purple is awesome, but to expensive. And i have specifcly mobile 1.
you said you dont have synthetic in your car and then you say you have mobil 1 in it...any mobil oil that says mobil 1 is full synthetic, not a blend, not a conventional oil, mobil 1 is synthetic...

get your stuff straight pal...
Old Nov 10, 2008 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by vinnier6
you said you dont have synthetic in your car and then you say you have mobil 1 in it...any mobil oil that says mobil 1 is full synthetic, not a blend, not a conventional oil, mobil 1 is synthetic...

get your stuff straight pal...
Unfotunately it's a gray area.

You have grp I, II, and III that are dino oil.

Grp III is legally a synthetic even though it's a highly refined dino oil.

If you consider grp III a full synthetic then all Mobil One is fully synthetic.

If you consider only a grp IV PAO and V Ester to be synthetic (like me) then only some Mobil One is synthetic.

Legally, all Mobil One is synthetic.

Most high end oils like my Amsoil is PAO based with some Ester too and you won't find any grp III in it.

Redline is typically an Ester (grp V) oil.
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if you go to get your oil changed anywhere and ask for mobil 1, your getting charged for a synthetic oil change...mobil 1 is not to be confused with mobil....can we atleast agree on that....

mobil 1 is advertised as a FULL SYNTHETIC, can we atleast agree on that....

mobil 1 is synthetic motor oil! its not conventional...
Old Nov 10, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by vinnier6
if you go to get your oil changed anywhere and ask for mobil 1, your getting charged for a synthetic oil change...mobil 1 is not to be confused with mobil....can we atleast agree on that....

mobil 1 is advertised as a FULL SYNTHETIC, can we atleast agree on that....

mobil 1 is synthetic motor oil! its not conventional...
Go talk to Lubrication engineers. They will tell you Mobil 1 is technically not a true synthetic. It is a Group III based oil, and only group IV and V are true synthetics. So not really an out of the blue and idiotic as you think. If you think different you can argue it out with an army of Engineers over on the oil drop forums (Bob Is the oil guy).

I hate cars hit the nail on the head.

That being said Mobil 1 is still a top shelf oil, and can still be called a Synthetic due to legal definitions.
Old Nov 10, 2008 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by vinnier6
if you go to get your oil changed anywhere and ask for mobil 1, your getting charged for a synthetic oil change...mobil 1 is not to be confused with mobil....can we atleast agree on that....

mobil 1 is advertised as a FULL SYNTHETIC, can we atleast agree on that....

mobil 1 is synthetic motor oil! its not conventional...
It's really in the definition. Do you consider a highly refined group III oil a syntetic? If so, then all M1 is synthetic.

If not, then some M1 is synthetic.

The price they charge is the price they can get away with. Mobil spends tons of money on advertising and it works.

For example, people pay an arm and a leg for a semi-synthetic not knowing that by definition, most cheaper oils fall into that category too. If it has 1% of a grp III mixed in with grp II, it can be called a semi-syn even though ethically it's not right.

It's kind of the same thing with a lot of the Mobil One products. Legally the grp III it's made with is a synthetic, however it's a bit misleading. I'm not saying all Mobil One is like this. I can't remember which ones, but some of their products are true synthetics. I believe any oil with a 0W rating has to be a synthetic as dino oil can't meet that requirement.

In the end, I'm sure the engines will outlast the body no matter what we run. It's my OCD that makes me use the good stuff.
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Go talk to Lubrication engineers. They will tell you Mobil 1 is technically not a true synthetic. It is a Group III based oil, and only group IV and V are true synthetics. So not really an out of the blue and idiotic as you think. If you think different you can argue it out with an army of Engineers over on the oil drop forums (Bob Is the oil guy).

I hate cars hit the nail on the head.

That being said Mobil 1 is still a top shelf oil, and can still be called a Synthetic due to legal definitions.
LOL. While I post from time to time, I'm still in the listening stage at Bob. So much info by so many smart people.
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its just as much a true synthetic as castrol, valvoline, penzoil, quaker state, and any other major oil companies synthetic offering.....so if mobil 1 isnt than either are the others...amsoil, silkolene, redline, motol, and others are not what i would call major oil companies in the eyes of the average consumer....
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IIRC, the Mobile1 High Mileage formulas are "true" synthetic.

I guess the difference with the Mobil1 we always discuss is that by a *legal* definition it is a "synthetic" oil, but by a scientific definition it is NOT a "synthetic" oil and it is labeled by what the law allows, not what the science allows.

Of course it is not *just* Mobile1 that uses this to thier advantage, but most of the other OTC "synthetics" too.



BTW - I thought this was pretty well understood. I am surprised there is so much enmity about it.

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Originally Posted by vinnier6
its just as much a true synthetic as castrol, valvoline, penzoil, quaker state, and any other major oil companies synthetic offering.....so if mobil 1 isnt than neither are the others.
This is a very true statement. It is as much Synthetic as the others... and they are all Group III based and not "true" synthetics.

German Castrol, Royal Purple, Amsoil, Red Line, and a few others are the few true synthetics.

That being said.... again..... just because most Mobil 1 is not a "true" synthetic does not mean it is bad oil... it still does a great job. I use it from time to time. But if you have the time, go to Autozone and hunt down German Castrol... it is the shizzle.



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