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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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Is it just me... Or

does the TL just car beg you to get on it?
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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Personally, no. I drive mine VERY conservatively. So much in fact that the wife complains that I drive to slow. I'm usually not in a hurry to get somewhere. Besides, the slower you go the more time you get to spend in it.
If I need to drive fast, I just pull out the NSX.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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Most of the time I drive mine very conservatively too but other times I just can't resist. You have the 92 NSX? A friend of mine also does with the automatic and with 220 hp he'll be looking at my tail lights. Handling obviously no question the NSX will run circles around the TL. How do you find sitting so low in the NSX and then getting into (onto) the TL? Must feel like getting on a horse.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 07:54 PM
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Man I wish I could say the same. I like to haul a$$ in my car.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by golferboy1862
Most of the time I drive mine very conservatively too but other times I just can't resist. You have the 92 NSX? A friend of mine also does with the automatic and with 220 hp he'll be looking at my tail lights. Handling obviously no question the NSX will run circles around the TL. How do you find sitting so low in the NSX and then getting into (onto) the TL? Must feel like getting on a horse.
Even with an automatic trans, your friend is still pushing 252HP, not 220. Unless you are talking rwhp then 220 might be accurate but the TL isn't putting 270 to the wheel either though. Automatics are also good for 6.0-6.5 0-60 runs where as the best I have seen from TL's is 6.9 in MT. He must not know how to push the gas pedal down hard enough???
There is a dramatic difference in ride height between the two of course, but I dont' mind it at all. Each car is better than the other in certain aspects though.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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Even with an automatic trans, your friend is still pushing 252HP, not 220. Unless you are talking rwhp then 220 might be accurate but the TL isn't putting 270 to the wheel either though. Automatics are also good for 6.0-6.5 0-60 runs where as the best I have seen from TL's is 6.9 in MT. He must not know how to push the gas pedal down hard enough???
There is a dramatic difference in ride height between the two of course, but I dont' mind it at all. Each car is better than the other in certain aspects though.
Actually, the best 0-60 time is around 5.7 seconds w/ manual. With the automatic, the TL does 60 in roughly 6.2-6.6 seconds. Even Consumer Reports which is notorious for getting slower than average acceleration times manages 0-60 w/ the auto in 6.7 seconds.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 08:41 PM
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Yes the 2005 NSX has 252 hp but the 1992 has 220 and the TL will beat it.

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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by golferboy1862
Yes the 2005 NSX has 252 hp but the 1992 has 220 and the TL will beat it.

Are you talking at the crank or the wheel for each car?
Anytime you want to line up a TL against my NSX go ahead. Make it worth my while though.
I can run 5.2 or less all day in mine without trying. I have slips to prove it.

2005 NSX Manual-290
Auto-270

1992 Manual -270
Auto-252
All stated #'s are crank HP and not rwhp which can vary widely due to many circumstances.



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I do stand corrected in the M/T times.
I am going by what the chart for Motor Trend says here.

Issue 1-04 6sp 0-60 is 6.1
Auto 0-60 is 6.3
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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I feel bad for my engine. I never drive easy. Always letting revs shoot up before shifting. I stay in 2nd03rd gear msot of the time, more in 2nd. the engine is in vtech more than 60% of the time.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 10:13 PM
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I usually drive what I would consider conservative (others call me crazy).

However, I love it when I have a friend into the ricer thing riding with me. I punch it and the v-tech kicks in and roars and the car takes off. They're always impressed and surprised at how nice this car is stock.

Also, I pass the civics/mitsunishis/etc with the under body lights and the fart pipes, 2' tall wings, etc etc, fairly regularly on my way home. They see the TL and every once in a while I'll let them pick a short race with me. I have always beat them with a good margin. I always hear them reving their engine trying to be tough when they pass me after I've had enough and stop ... and they catch up. Its the sound of victory.

I love it.

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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 10:23 PM
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I had a Ford 150 Lighting pull up and want to go but the TL was too new so I didn't go. Don't think the TL could beat it off the line anyways. 340 supercharged ponies be a tough one...?
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 11:07 PM
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Both my TLs beg me to rip them........

But I actually push my TL-S harder than my 04 just because the engine sounds so much meaner (esp. w/ the AEM CAI) compared to my sedate 04.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 11:13 PM
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I Would LOOOOOVE to test drive the NSX.....
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 11:45 PM
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I like to drive my TL fast out of NY, here it is a little too risky with all of the cops.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by NFLblitze1
I Would LOOOOOVE to test drive the NSX.....
If you are ever down this way we'll see what we can do.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 02:14 PM
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i would love to see this race. i would put my money on the NSX.

Originally Posted by 92NSX
Are you talking at the crank or the wheel for each car?
Anytime you want to line up a TL against my NSX go ahead. Make it worth my while though.
I can run 5.2 or less all day in mine without trying. I have slips to prove it.

2005 NSX Manual-290
Auto-270

1992 Manual -270
Auto-252
All stated #'s are crank HP and not rwhp which can vary widely due to many circumstances.



jwater,
I do stand corrected in the M/T times.
I am going by what the chart for Motor Trend says here.

Issue 1-04 6sp 0-60 is 6.1
Auto 0-60 is 6.3
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 03:02 PM
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dont know about anyone else, but i am so eagered to let me baby's all 270 ponies run wild. still in the breakin period though.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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YESSSSSSS.....u cant feel speed in that car...i cruise at 90 100 with no prob...ive had to 135 but i doubt i'll go anymore
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 10:24 PM
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Yes, the engine is superb. I feel the chassis and sadly, the FWD takes away tons from the experience. I would love this engine in a RWD car. But for trips to Wal-Mart, I love it!
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 07:04 AM
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does the TL just car beg you to get on it?
Yes. And I heed her wishes EVERY day.
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 08:50 AM
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Best times I see in a road test was from Car and Driver of an A-Spec. Since there is no difference in power production of this car, we can take its times for a decent example (tires being the one improvement).

0-60 in 5.6 seconds
quarter mile in 14.3 seconds at 99 MPH.
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SouthernBoy
Best times I see in a road test was from Car and Driver of an A-Spec. Since there is no difference in power production of this car, we can take its times for a decent example (tires being the one improvement).

0-60 in 5.6 seconds
quarter mile in 14.3 seconds at 99 MPH.
The tire size won't help but rather hurt since it has more mass and requires more power to start turning.
The Motor Trend has 1/4 of 14.4 @ 98.2

Either way, I don't think it will show an NSX it's taillights. Granted it is a quick car but not that quick.
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 09:28 AM
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I just dont get it..Why did you buy this car if all your concerned with is all out performance,their are a few better cars that are RWD for this.
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 09:38 AM
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My whole point was to 92NSX because a friend of mine has one. He has a 92 auto NSX and he thinks my 04 TL is quicker. I've driven with him and he knows who to press the gas pedel trust me. I'm not making a statement the TL is faster than the NSX but in this one case I've stated it may be...
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 11:45 AM
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I just dont get it..Why did you buy this car if all your concerned with is all out performance,their are a few better cars that are RWD for this.
I certainly didn't. That is why people make fun of how slow I do drive.

golfer,
I do understand the point of what you are making. The TL does feel pretty darn quick off the line, I'll give you that. I haven't ever driven a auto NSX so I have nothing to compare it to. I take your word for it.

It's all good fellas
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 12:52 PM
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It's all good. The NSX is sweet and a real head turner. What year do you have? Any probelms with it? My friends only had a issue with the BOSE factory speakers with the amp built into each speaker.
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 01:23 PM
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I have a '92. The only real problem I have with it is the auto climate control circuit board is not working correctly so I don't have heat in it. The a/c part blows about 40-45 degrees though.
I too had issues with the OEM Bose system. It is a piece of crap.
I have upgraded the entire thing to an audio/video system now.
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 02:04 PM
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To 92NSX;

There are only two things about a tire, barring its traction capabilities, that can effect a car's performance: 1) diameter; 2) weight.

A larger diameter tire has the same affect as installing higher gears (final drive ratio). A shorter diameter tire has the opposite affect is is preferred for drag racing. And then you get to weight. Quite obviously, a lighter tire is more beneficial all around.

Now traction is a whole other subject and if you find a shorter and lighter tire that hooks up quickly and with minimum wheel spin, you will have something very good for the street.



To Rcat;

People buy cars for a host of reasons. Personally for me, performance is one of the most significant reasons there is. If I find a car that offers a decent level of performance AND a bunch of residual benefits, then I figure this is a good thing. The TL fits this mold quite nicely, thank you. And the best thing for us gearheads is that there are a lot of other cars out there that also fit this mold. This can only be a good thing for everyone.
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthernBoy
To 92NSX;

There are only two things about a tire, barring its traction capabilities, that can effect a car's performance: 1) diameter; 2) weight.

A larger diameter tire has the same affect as installing higher gears (final drive ratio). A shorter diameter tire has the opposite affect is is preferred for drag racing. And then you get to weight. Quite obviously, a lighter tire is more beneficial all around.

Now traction is a whole other subject and if you find a shorter and lighter tire that hooks up quickly and with minimum wheel spin, you will have something very good for the street.
I know this. I guess I didn't make myself clear enough on my last post then. The A-spec wheels are larger in diameter than the regular wheels. Hence ever so slightly more weight(mass), more initial rolling resistance, which in turn leads to a slightly slower accelerating time.
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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To 92NSX;

If this is true, then that would seem to indicate that a standard Tl would be quicker than an A-Spec model.
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 09:23 PM
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Bully for us, eh?
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthernBoy
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If this is true, then that would seem to indicate that a standard Tl would be quicker than an A-Spec model.
You would think that. Consider too that it adds a few extra pounds on with the body kit too.
The A-spec is more handling improvement than anything. Nothing done under the hood to decrease times.
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