Just got back from the Auto Show...
#1
Just got back from the Auto Show...
...which is here in Baltimore for the weekend.
One can only look at/sit in the cars, of course, not drive them, but given that limitation...
Nothing, and I mean nothing, compares favorably to the TL in that price range.
G35 - interior is not so bad really, except when compared to the TL's, after which it looks primitive; also not as roomy as I expected, the TL wins there, too
3 series - interior needs upgrading; optioned like TL it costs more; the same stuff can be said of the C class and Audi 4 (which is also too snug inside)
Maxima and Passat - neither car anywhere near the state of the art appearance of the TL, inside or out
Phaeton - this one I like, oops it's $75 grand
Many manufacturers just have nothing comparable to TL - Lexus has several models, none really comparable; Ford and Chrysler have upcoming cars, not available yet; GM - why bother talking about it (except Caddy, not my taste but if you like the CTS that one does compare to TL, but still loses overall, especially the interior)
The TL is really a unique automobile in a slightly unique niche right now. No wonder it's selling well.
One can only look at/sit in the cars, of course, not drive them, but given that limitation...
Nothing, and I mean nothing, compares favorably to the TL in that price range.
G35 - interior is not so bad really, except when compared to the TL's, after which it looks primitive; also not as roomy as I expected, the TL wins there, too
3 series - interior needs upgrading; optioned like TL it costs more; the same stuff can be said of the C class and Audi 4 (which is also too snug inside)
Maxima and Passat - neither car anywhere near the state of the art appearance of the TL, inside or out
Phaeton - this one I like, oops it's $75 grand
Many manufacturers just have nothing comparable to TL - Lexus has several models, none really comparable; Ford and Chrysler have upcoming cars, not available yet; GM - why bother talking about it (except Caddy, not my taste but if you like the CTS that one does compare to TL, but still loses overall, especially the interior)
The TL is really a unique automobile in a slightly unique niche right now. No wonder it's selling well.
#2
I think the TL is outstanding looking, the wheels sit nicely (thanks BMW for showing everybody how to do this!) in the body.
Someone mentioned thin leather, my business partner has 2003 E320 and his leather felt the same as mine thickness wise and has the creases showing where people have sat in the seats.
I think the TL is awesome.
Someone mentioned thin leather, my business partner has 2003 E320 and his leather felt the same as mine thickness wise and has the creases showing where people have sat in the seats.
I think the TL is awesome.
#3
I was in Detroit for the Auto Show and my impressions of the TL against the competition was that ...it really didn't have a competitor. Certainly on the styling front the BMW 5 series has some similiarities, but the interior of the TL wins hands down compared to the Audi A4, BMW 3 Series, G35. The TL's price point combined with styling has just put it in a class by itself as its cheaper than all of those cars.
The new Corvette looked pretty good. The Mustang was good too, although how many times can you revitalize that 1970 Mach 1 look?
The new Corvette looked pretty good. The Mustang was good too, although how many times can you revitalize that 1970 Mach 1 look?
#4
Peters, I was in Detroit last weekend and I agree with you about the new Corvette. I'm still looking for that ideal summer weekend car to lease at a reasonable rate, and the new 'vette just about tops the list (G35 coupe is the top of the list). However, I was disappointed in the new Mustang; the styling doesn't do it for me, and I can't stand it that this "muscle car" has a base V6 engine. I also think that the TL is really unique, not really lux, not really sport, good enough combo of both to satisfy people who want a sporty lux car in its price range. No other car in this price range has the combination of both, as they are generally meant for each extreme.
#5
The Corvette
I almost think that the GM has turned the corner on some of its cars and is re-gaining some market acceptance. You know, I was considering a Porsche Boxter as a summer car that I put away and drive until the thing just gets too old as I get older. But I am seriously thinking of the new Corvette. All that horsepower is too much too resist .....
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Originally posted by vothsc
CLGator, you mentioned that the G-35 and 330I had space issues - probably because they are RWD and have the large drive shaft tunnel running through the car. This is one plus of FWD - more space.
CLGator, you mentioned that the G-35 and 330I had space issues - probably because they are RWD and have the large drive shaft tunnel running through the car. This is one plus of FWD - more space.
You may be right about the FWD/RWD issue. I don't know enough about that stuff to confirm. But I can say that the Maxima, another FWD car, was roomier than its G35 cousin.
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