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Old May 2, 2007 | 06:33 PM
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HID Foglights

I am planning on changing my TL-S foglights to HIDs. I have a friend who works for http://www.neverburnout.com, So I am going to give their HIDs a shot. Can someone tell me which one I would need? I did do a search but did not find which bulb to use.
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Old May 2, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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I think the 07 TL-S uses a H7 bulbs if im not mistaken. The regular TL uses the H11. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old May 2, 2007 | 07:54 PM
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From the diagram here it uses H8

33165-S5A-J01 BULB, FOGLIGHT (H8) (12V 35W) (STANLEY)



I think you have to mod the housing.
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Old May 2, 2007 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ua6spec
I think the 07 TL-S uses a H7 bulbs if im not mistaken. The regular TL uses the H11. Correct me if I'm wrong.
regular TL (im assuming you mean 04-06) use 9006/HB4
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Old May 2, 2007 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ua6spec
From the diagram here it uses H8

33165-S5A-J01 BULB, FOGLIGHT (H8) (12V 35W) (STANLEY)



I think you have to mod the housing.
Typically HID's in the same housing as halogen will be way too bright for other drivers. This could also mean disaster for you if they come into your lane. The HID's have a sharp cut off because they are so bright.

Since they are fog lights they may already be pointed low so it "may" not be an issue.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 12:32 AM
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Thanks for finding out for me. H8 it is.

Jay0k, I will do my best to make sure it will not harm anybody elses driving. thanks for making me aware of it.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 01:53 AM
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ya, it is H8 bulbs. i have 12000k on my. it's very bright but u can see longer distance. and make sure u cut off the diagram cover the bulbs.u can check on my:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF0735.jpg
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Old May 3, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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ya, it is H8 bulbs. i have 12000k on my. it's very bright but u can see longer distance. and make sure u cut off the diagram cover the bulbs.u can check on my:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF0735.jpg
Wow, they sure do look bright. Did you change your headlights to HIDs as well? what is a diagram cover?

I am going to have to look elsewhere because it does not seem like they carry the bulb I need.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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ya, it is H8 bulbs. i have 12000k on my. it's very bright but u can see longer distance. and make sure u cut off the diagram cover the bulbs.u can check on my:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF0735.jpg
did you get a h.i.d kit for your day time light to and who did you keep them on with all those other lights
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Old May 3, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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MC82, can you keep this updated. I have a '07 TL and I want to put HIDs in my foglight too. I believe the mounts are H8 which are different from the '04-'06 foglights. Also last week I checked I THINK the fog light goes off if you turn on the highbeam (will check again later). If that's so, you might want to figure out how to make it such that the foglight stays on even when you highbeam.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 08:40 AM
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I did the foglight mod on the bottom and i changed the factory foglights to HIDs as well. 3 sets of HIDS all pretty nuts the car looks like a spaceship comin at u. I stayed with 4300K all around
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Old May 5, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Tripnbeats
I did the foglight mod on the bottom and i changed the factory foglights to HIDs as well. 3 sets of HIDS all pretty nuts the car looks like a spaceship comin at u. I stayed with 4300K all around
what kit u use to make factory foglights to HID and what type of LED?
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Old May 7, 2007 | 01:11 PM
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no LEDs and I have a guy in NYC who gives me HIDs for cheap.....nothing special becuz all the ballasts are the same junk even if its german or chinese or whatever.... the thing that really makes a diff in quality is the bulb.... I used 9006 4300k in the stock fogs in the headlights i left them alone.... and the mod in the bottom fogs i did the same thing 4300k the ballasts on the top fogs i had left over from many sets i did and those are german the bottoms are chinese...havent had any probs but the battery really does drain out I think its time for an upgrade and an isolator

PS I didnt tie any connections to the electrical system on the car I ran separate switches and relays for everything
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Old May 9, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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I would love to make all three sets HIDS.. I hate the yellowish look of the daytime lights as well as the fogs. Could you provide complete details on how to proceed with this mod and also the costs involved. I'm in Jersery, might you also put me in touch with your contact in NYC?

Any Insight on how to proceed with this project would be most helpful.

Thanks
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Old May 9, 2007 | 05:04 PM
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I got H11 fog lights for my Type S. One thing I found out is that you may have to put in a higher fuse than the 10 already in it. I kept blowing fuses. I put in a 20 fuse.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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I'm also interested in doing the triple HID, but I'm concerned about the battery drain, an optima battery should be the best way to go right?
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Old May 10, 2007 | 08:00 AM
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Actually the regular battery is really powerful and can handle the load but I upgraded..... Im not taking chances with the electrical system. Especially with a system in the car. I have the yellowtop optima. I have relays for each set other than the stock lights I have switches for main power to the relays and switched power on n off. so I can shut all down at once "amps, lights,strobes" or shut them down individually. The guy I deal with for HIDs doesnt really do business outside of his "circle" but I dont mind hookin anyone up if you're serious and you'd want to pick em up or have them delivered. They are fairly cheap I get them at 250 with a year warranty no questions asked. I can even do installs for everything because I have a shop my friend owns and we do night work there so its convenient. As for the fuse TypeS Racer your right you absolutely have to upgrade the fuses to 15, 20 is a little too much ballasts dont use more than 15 amps on draw even at time of ignition.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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Oh and when I said no questions asked I meant if it breaks he replaces it and doesnt go into the 3rd degree speeches and questions about why it broke.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MC82
I am planning on changing my TL-S foglights to HIDs. I have a friend who works for http://www.neverburnout.com, So I am going to give their HIDs a shot. Can someone tell me which one I would need? I did do a search but did not find which bulb to use.

Hey MC82, did you get the HID fog light bulbs yet? I would love to go with HIDs for the fogs, but I'm not sure which brand to go with yet. Let me know if you have them installed yet and what your thoughts are.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 02:32 AM
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Wow, they sure do look bright. Did you change your headlights to HIDs as well? what is a diagram cover?

I am going to have to look elsewhere because it does not seem like they carry the bulb I need.
I do have 3 sets of HIDs. but usually i using only 2 (head light and bottom foglight)..oh.when u look in side the foglights, u will see litle ring cover the bulb. the lights will be brighter when u cut off that part.
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF0738.jpg
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Old May 17, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Tripnbeats
Actually the regular battery is really powerful and can handle the load but I upgraded..... Im not taking chances with the electrical system. Especially with a system in the car. I have the yellowtop optima. I have relays for each set other than the stock lights I have switches for main power to the relays and switched power on n off. so I can shut all down at once "amps, lights,strobes" or shut them down individually. The guy I deal with for HIDs doesnt really do business outside of his "circle" but I dont mind hookin anyone up if you're serious and you'd want to pick em up or have them delivered. They are fairly cheap I get them at 250 with a year warranty no questions asked. I can even do installs for everything because I have a shop my friend owns and we do night work there so its convenient. As for the fuse TypeS Racer your right you absolutely have to upgrade the fuses to 15, 20 is a little too much ballasts dont use more than 15 amps on draw even at time of ignition.
HID's actually require LESS power than a standard filament bulb... usually 25W or less as oppose to 55W with some factory systems... There should be NO battery issue.

So the new TL-S fog is H8 for sure??? I'm going to get the 3000K Yellow HID's for my foglights.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 02:23 PM
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TL-S is H8 for sure.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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Cool... just ordered!

I'm getting the 3000K Yellow HID for the fogs...

Looks AMAZING on a blue car, similar to the IS300's

Found a seller on Ebay that has GREAT feedback, and sells kits for $120 shipped!!!
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Old May 18, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Converted
HID's actually require LESS power than a standard filament bulb... usually 25W or less as oppose to 55W with some factory systems... There should be NO battery issue.

So the new TL-S fog is H8 for sure??? I'm going to get the 3000K Yellow HID's for my foglights.
Actually NO..... they are stable at 13.5 volts; thats a high pull at a stable rate.... the halogens are 12 volt stable. When you first ignite the ballasts they spike at 14.5 until the color is acheived. Its not the wattage you're supposed to be worried about because your not pulling wattage from the line. if you were pulling wattage you'd have an amplifier as your alternator.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 12:49 AM
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Hi guys, well I have a few questions and can't find the answer (unless its hidden somewhere).
Were you guys able to connect the ballast to the original lines?
The manual says the bulb is 12V-35W but doesn't ballast usually need an inital boost of 13V? Or is that not an issue.
Where did you guys hide the ballast?
What brand kit did you guys buy?
The stock HIDs are 4300k if I recall correctly. Does 4300k fog kit have a different color and intensity since the light is dispersed in the fog. Would a 5000k make the lights have similar look.

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Old May 24, 2007 | 06:21 AM
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porkipine........yes they have a slightly diff tint because they are being put out from a reflector lense not a projector so you dont get that crazy blue reflection. you can use the original wires if youd like you just need to make sure the fuses are upgraded to 15amp if they are 10amp or lower to begin with. I dont suggest using acuras harness for installation of an HID set simply because if anything were to happen that'd be the end of warranty on the electrical harness.... if you throw a relay and switch in there itll save u a headache at the dealer. now when the bumpers off the car for the install to begin find a spot where the ballasts can be placed securely without shaking ( thats what usually makes em burn out) 5000K really doesnt exist as a color output....people say beemers have that...its a crock...they have 4300 osram bulbs the thing that makes the pretty light u see is the lense. And as for the brand get what u think is good as long as your not paying more than 300 for it....unless u go to hella or phillips where ur bound to spend more.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Tripnbeats
porkipine........yes they have a slightly diff tint because they are being put out from a reflector lense not a projector so you dont get that crazy blue reflection. you can use the original wires if youd like you just need to make sure the fuses are upgraded to 15amp if they are 10amp or lower to begin with. I dont suggest using acuras harness for installation of an HID set simply because if anything were to happen that'd be the end of warranty on the electrical harness.... if you throw a relay and switch in there itll save u a headache at the dealer. now when the bumpers off the car for the install to begin find a spot where the ballasts can be placed securely without shaking ( thats what usually makes em burn out) 5000K really doesnt exist as a color output....people say beemers have that...its a crock...they have 4300 osram bulbs the thing that makes the pretty light u see is the lense. And as for the brand get what u think is good as long as your not paying more than 300 for it....unless u go to hella or phillips where ur bound to spend more.
Thanks for the information. Now I have more questions. If you don't mind answering, that would be great but if you just think I should just get professionals do it, let me know.

So my main concern is putting in the relay and switch. By using the relay, do I need to purchase some 12 gauge wires and connect everything to the battery? What is the purpose of a switch? Will it allow me to turn on the fog lights independently? Thanks.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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http://www.xtralights.com/index.asp?...PROD&ProdID=19


http://www.thexenonstore.com/relay.php

HID Relay Harness With Inline Fuse Relieves stress on your stock wiring system, or disable your DRL's. By drawing power direct from the battery using all 12 AWG wiring HIDs will turn on when triggered by your headlight switch. Built with a duel output 30Amp Relay it powers both HID ballasts, complete with all needed connectors for easy install, the Relay harness will also provide a level of protection for over voltages to you HID system with its inline fuse.


I have found these two switches. The second one seems better IMO since it can be used for both ballast. This are the 4 wires that comes out from the relay. Is relay and switch the same thing? somehow it sounds like it.

Black - Ground
White - Switched Source (usually plugs directing into your stock headlight harness)
Yellow/Blue - Plugs into the positive on your HID ballast
Red - 12V+ terminal on your battery

Does that mean the White wire is the one allowing me to turn on and off the fog light right?
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Old May 26, 2007 | 12:17 AM
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independently.....yup
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Old May 30, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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i installed the hid fogs but problem is that 1 works but when i connect 2 they both turn off so rite now im only running with 1 fog so what is the proplem?
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Originally Posted by bcbtony
i installed the hid fogs but problem is that 1 works but when i connect 2 they both turn off so rite now im only running with 1 fog so what is the proplem?

How are you connecting the HIDs. Do you have an extra relay to the battery or did you connect to the stock harness. What do you connect the second one into?
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i conected to the stock harness
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Old May 30, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Porkipine
How are you connecting the HIDs. Do you have an extra relay to the battery or did you connect to the stock harness. What do you connect the second one into?
o do you have aim so i can ask yu about the wiring and stuff??
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Old May 30, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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has anyone here found a set of yellow HID fogs...I have 3000k set, but when you look at them directly, they are white. The yellow only shows on the road.

halogen 2500k bulbs show yellow in the front and they shine the road yellow...
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Old May 30, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rendezvous
has anyone here found a set of yellow HID fogs...I have 3000k set, but when you look at them directly, they are white. The yellow only shows on the road.

halogen 2500k bulbs show yellow in the front and they shine the road yellow...
I have a set of philip 3000K D2S but haven't had time to install it yet.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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Like I said you wanna avoid probs?....add switches n relays the stock harness is only made to support a certain amount of draw and it will not power up a second ballast....they started that BS in the 05 junkers n up.and if your doing the install yourself... be clean and take your time with it. As for the 3000K setup I like it to an extent.....I personally dont think it meshes well with the TL but to all their own.
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h8 and h11 on 07 fits perfectly...make sure to change the fuse ...remove the 10 and put a 20
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BAO-7786
ya, it is H8 bulbs. i have 12000k on my. it's very bright but u can see longer distance. and make sure u cut off the diagram cover the bulbs.u can check on my:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF0735.jpg
WHATS THE DIAGRAM COVER ?IS THAT INSIDE THE HOUSING?
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 02:42 AM
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WHATS THE DIAGRAM COVER ?IS THAT INSIDE THE HOUSING?
ya
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 11:09 PM
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I just had 8K HID plug and play installed on my car and it works great. I will have to get some pictures up.
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