Early '04's transmission Recall
#201
Originally Posted by Divindude
Well .. after going thru the 2nd gen tranny mess with Honda and their HORRIBLE response .. and it would appear that the 2 & 3rd gen trannies are of the same series .. I will be writing off the 3rd gen TL with an auto .. shame .. In case Phil from Acura's midwest district is reading .. still want to stand by your statement "Honda's transmissions are designed differently from other manufacturers because our engineers feel it is more reliable" .. HA
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Originally Posted by TL_6SPD
Hmm I don't recall seeing any Master Tech come on here or any misquoted information. I read those threads, and do recall what was said. BLue bolts do mean reman trannys. Please show proof a Master Tech came on here laughing. And this doesn't include Nick04TL because he was wrong on his information anyways.
There is alot more than just 1 tranny failure. Especially since it was included in the recall.
There is alot more than just 1 tranny failure. Especially since it was included in the recall.
If rets sees this, he may be able to help. He has a mind like a steel trap. He never forgets anything!
BTW: I will repeat that my tranny mounting bolts are blue in my brand new TL that has never been in for service and which I received off the truck 10 days after it was built. Are you suggesting it was built new with a reman tranny?
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#203
Originally Posted by Xpditor
6SPD: I'll research it for you. It was in the thread that had the photographs of the tranny removed, the blue bolts, and the "RM" on the numbers of the remanufactured tranny. I think the mods moved it but I should be able to find it and let you know.
If rets sees this, he may be able to help. He has a mind like a steel trap. He never forgets anything!
BTW: I will repeat that my tranny mounting bolts are blue in my brand new TL that has never been in for service and which I received off the truck 10 days after it was built. Are you suggesting it was built new with a reman tranny?
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If rets sees this, he may be able to help. He has a mind like a steel trap. He never forgets anything!
BTW: I will repeat that my tranny mounting bolts are blue in my brand new TL that has never been in for service and which I received off the truck 10 days after it was built. Are you suggesting it was built new with a reman tranny?
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Originally Posted by TL_6SPD
Not sure on the blue bolts part, but if it shows RM on it, its a reman for sure then.
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#205
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Originally Posted by TL_6SPD
Not from Acura they are not, since I use to own a CL-S. 2 Remands died sooner thant he original.
#206
Originally Posted by Road Rage
Well, you are talking about a unique situation - it took Honda a long time to nail down the defect in those trannies - that does not serve as a blanket indictment of all RM's, from Honda or anyone else. The 1997 Subaru Outbacks had a run of bad alternators, and mine was replaced by an RM at 5K miles - now pushing 100k electric miles.
#207
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I think I'm just going to drive the snot out of mine, hope it breaks, hope I get hit and put to bed for life, sue the piss out of them and retire and watch Springer all day. There was a lady on here a few months back who has fused discs in her back due to this "minor" tranny problem when hers broke and she got in an accident. She's in pain daily because of it and Acura is just trying to write it off and offer her another car or something if I recall (been a lot of beers since then)
ONE broken person should be enough to wake them up, but then again, it's the almighty dollar, one lawsuit is still cheaper than fixing the damned problem.
ONE broken person should be enough to wake them up, but then again, it's the almighty dollar, one lawsuit is still cheaper than fixing the damned problem.
#208
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The general public has absolutely no clue as to what components on what cars may be prone to failure. I wouldn't be concerned about resale value of 3 gen. TL's. Even the 2nd gen. TL's haven't taken a dive in resale value, and the problem has been around for a long time. MDX also.
Plus, there's a lot more to reliability than just the transmission. Take a look at 2nd gen. TL reliability ratings in Consumer Reports. Looks excellent, even given the transmission problem (which does show up, compared to other cars). Plus, they are apparently FIXING them in a way that will prevent the problem, and warranties will be extended as needed (as with 2nd gen.).
Given all that, I have no desire to have a reman. trans. ever put in my car, and I'm also disappointed that Honda has allowed this auto. trans. problem to persist.
I think people are making a bigger deal of this recall than is deserved. Look at it as a GOOD thing, as it could prevent a future problem with your transmission. Honda could have easily tried to ignore it, but they didn't.
Plus, there's a lot more to reliability than just the transmission. Take a look at 2nd gen. TL reliability ratings in Consumer Reports. Looks excellent, even given the transmission problem (which does show up, compared to other cars). Plus, they are apparently FIXING them in a way that will prevent the problem, and warranties will be extended as needed (as with 2nd gen.).
Given all that, I have no desire to have a reman. trans. ever put in my car, and I'm also disappointed that Honda has allowed this auto. trans. problem to persist.
I think people are making a bigger deal of this recall than is deserved. Look at it as a GOOD thing, as it could prevent a future problem with your transmission. Honda could have easily tried to ignore it, but they didn't.
#209
Originally Posted by Hybrid
Given all that, I have no desire to have a reman. trans. ever put in my car, and I'm also disappointed that Honda has allowed this auto. trans. problem to persist.
I think people are making a bigger deal of this recall than is deserved. Look at it as a GOOD thing, as it could prevent a future problem with your transmission. Honda could have easily tried to ignore it, but they didn't.
I think people are making a bigger deal of this recall than is deserved. Look at it as a GOOD thing, as it could prevent a future problem with your transmission. Honda could have easily tried to ignore it, but they didn't.
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Originally Posted by TL_6SPD
You don't have a choice in this matter if you get a new or reman. Only remans are available.
Hmmm. I think I'd go with the reman. If the insides are all new and inspected, I'm not hung up on getting a new case.
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#211
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as for the : "Look at it as a GOOD thing, as it could prevent a future problem with your transmission. Honda could have easily tried to ignore it, but they didn't" statement.. Even tho they did the fixes and recalls for the 2nd gens, many of them went thru 2 and 3 and 4 trannies. So who says the fixes are any better, it sounds like you run the same risk of it doing it again.
I for one do now have a small fear in the back of my head about this, it's not comforting and I'm not normally a paranoid person.
I for one do now have a small fear in the back of my head about this, it's not comforting and I'm not normally a paranoid person.
#212
Originally Posted by Xpditor
I suppose the dealer has the option of taking your tranny out and rebuilding it on the bench with new bearings, clutch disks, shafts, gears, pumps- or, put a reman in that has been rebuilt and inspected at a specialty tranny location (Acura) by tranny specialists.
Hmmm. I think I'd go with the reman. If the insides are all new and inspected, I'm not hung up on getting a new case.
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Hmmm. I think I'd go with the reman. If the insides are all new and inspected, I'm not hung up on getting a new case.
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Originally Posted by TL_6SPD
The Acura dealers do not open the trannys themselves. A reman is ordered on a pallette, and the old one is sent back.
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I was in for a scheduled appointment today to have my front windshield replaced. I brought my notification of the recall from Ownerlink and requested the work be done. The service department indicated they had not yet received the parts and would be unable to address.
I thought it was strange that Ownerlink would notify me of a recall yet the dealer is unable to address?
I thought it was strange that Ownerlink would notify me of a recall yet the dealer is unable to address?
#215
Originally Posted by RhodeRunner
Why do you care? If you were an Acura owner you would have every reason to care. Since you own an Infiniti, the recall has no effect on you.
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My VHIN is A014838, which is suppose to be after the production number posted in this thread to be covered by the recall. I called ACS today and the lady, after checking the VHIN, said mine was covered by the recall!
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Originally Posted by TL_6SPD
True, but I have more experience with Acura than you buddy. So I am giving my feedback.
#218
Originally Posted by RhodeRunner
Feedback? LOL you are trying to validate your purchase of the G35 over the TL.... After I got rid of my G35 I stopped posting to the G35 boards.
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My car is now officially included in the recall. I had no doubt it would since my vin is 078xx. I am not in a rush to have the dealer look at the car. It will get taken care of some time. I had an 01 CLS and was lucky enuff to drive it to 50k with the original tranny intact when I traded it for my 04 TL. Hopefully my TL will do the same for me.
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Originally Posted by TL_6SPD
Ummm I love my G35. I have no reason to talk about it. But you guys on the other hand are always mentioning the G35 in one post or the other. Like someone else said its you guys doing this not us. See now your going with the personal attack towards me and my car. Grow up will ya.
You are giving your feedback as a public service? Where is there a negative mention of the G35 on this thread before your first post where you mention you own an Infiniti? Are you here to rub our faces in the fact that our transmissions were recalled?
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Well, kinda...
Originally Posted by TL_6SPD
Ummm I love my G35. I have no reason to talk about it. But you guys on the other hand are always mentioning the G35 in one post or the other. Like someone else said its you guys doing this not us. See now your going with the personal attack towards me and my car. Grow up will ya.
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#222
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Why don't you and dseag2 take the re-manufactured Tranny with the additional tranny oil jets for additional lubrication and take turns having fun shoving them up your candy asses.
Fool you once-Acura did. Fool you twice-Acura did, so shame on you, lol.
Fool you once-Acura did. Fool you twice-Acura did, so shame on you, lol.
Heres an idea though; why dont you take that old ES300 of yours, and drive it straight up your own ass. Of course that would be in a straight line since the handling ability and sportiness of an ES ranks right up there with the likes of Buick. I'll take that 04 TL over one of those anyday; bad tranny or not.
For all the negativity he spews, you'd think he drives the penultimate automobile, but instead its a 1st gen ES300, and formerly a GS400 which was driven into a wall under shady circumstances. Regardless neither is, nor ever was regarded as the epitome of sports luxury, and were themselves the value priced competition.
Sick thinks he is providing helpful advice, he doesnt realize that most see him as nothing more than a troll with too much time on his hands, who tries to force his blatantly biased opinions down the throats of everyone who doesnt drive a Lexus. ( I really love how the IS300 interior is just "not for everyone" while the G35, TL, etc, are just cheap)
I mean if we are talking about the best of the best, why stop at Lexus, why not go all the way up the chain to BMW, Mercedes, etc. To the cars that are being emulated instead of the cars doing the emulating.
Thats a question that he rationalizes away, but he doesnt see that his rationalizations are the same that any person uses when they buy their own car. Its just that since everyone else bought something else, their opinion is obviously wrong.
Until he stops coming off that way, he does nothing more than set a bad example, and turn people off his viewpoints completely. Pretty surprising behavior for a "Moderator".
P.S. Despite the IMO cheapish interior, I'll be headed to the Lexus dealership this weekend to close the deal on an 04 IS in Graphite Grey Pearl for the woman. Its perfect for what shes looking for, fits her like a glove, and shes always loved the exterior styling. I just need to see if theres a way to dress up that center console a little better.
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OMG....
This is the worst news I could possibly hear. I have found out that my 04tl is affected. I got the 04tl becuase Honda/Acura swore to me that this transmission was NOT the same as was in my 03 tl that locked up...had it replaced and locked again causing me an addcident.
They told me that thet usaed the Acura transmission they used in the NSX.. So even though I don't drive the 04tl alot at all ,because I have a work car I use ..I am scared to death now of driving it!
Hearing that the tranny overheats ( Could overheat causing metal to chip and get stuck in the gear creating a lockup!!!!! I have been there twice and just jnew this could never effect me again as ACURA swore that this was a whole new tranny ,out of the NSX....
With what happened to me ...and if you ever expierienced a lock up you know what I'm talking about ///I am sick over this ...I have been told by my Dr ..I need all disc's in my neck fused ..this caused by the accident ! and he said I could NEVER take any kind of trama ..even small to my neck ..MY Gosh ...What was Acura thinking to lie to me this way and after all the complaint's ...not to just throw all those old transmissions away !
I am still going to deal with same problem they said they were taking care of ? I am dealing with the injurie;s the tranny caused ..WHAT MORE!
This is the worst news I could possibly hear. I have found out that my 04tl is affected. I got the 04tl becuase Honda/Acura swore to me that this transmission was NOT the same as was in my 03 tl that locked up...had it replaced and locked again causing me an addcident.
They told me that thet usaed the Acura transmission they used in the NSX.. So even though I don't drive the 04tl alot at all ,because I have a work car I use ..I am scared to death now of driving it!
Hearing that the tranny overheats ( Could overheat causing metal to chip and get stuck in the gear creating a lockup!!!!! I have been there twice and just jnew this could never effect me again as ACURA swore that this was a whole new tranny ,out of the NSX....
With what happened to me ...and if you ever expierienced a lock up you know what I'm talking about ///I am sick over this ...I have been told by my Dr ..I need all disc's in my neck fused ..this caused by the accident ! and he said I could NEVER take any kind of trama ..even small to my neck ..MY Gosh ...What was Acura thinking to lie to me this way and after all the complaint's ...not to just throw all those old transmissions away !
I am still going to deal with same problem they said they were taking care of ? I am dealing with the injurie;s the tranny caused ..WHAT MORE!
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"""""Originally Posted by TLGator
WHat the hell is the big fucking deal? Some people here are scared? Some are outraged? You're kidding, right? Wasting those big emotions on something as trivial as this?
So there's a recall. Fine. You take your car in, they do what they have to do. Yes, it's annoying, and yes, it's a little puzzling that Honda continues to have these tranny issues. But scared? Outraged? Please. Get a grip. It's a fucking car and the odds are better you'll win the lottery and get hit by lightening on the same day than actually suffer any personal harm because of this recall.
If this is the worst thing that happens in your life this year, praise God and be thankful. Some of you people really need better coping skills if you get so rattled by a recall on your car."""""
Until you get in an accident and deal with the injurie's I am .....You can easily make statements such as this..
You take alot for granted don't you ? Hope you never suffer the consequences that I have.
WHat the hell is the big fucking deal? Some people here are scared? Some are outraged? You're kidding, right? Wasting those big emotions on something as trivial as this?
So there's a recall. Fine. You take your car in, they do what they have to do. Yes, it's annoying, and yes, it's a little puzzling that Honda continues to have these tranny issues. But scared? Outraged? Please. Get a grip. It's a fucking car and the odds are better you'll win the lottery and get hit by lightening on the same day than actually suffer any personal harm because of this recall.
If this is the worst thing that happens in your life this year, praise God and be thankful. Some of you people really need better coping skills if you get so rattled by a recall on your car."""""
Until you get in an accident and deal with the injurie's I am .....You can easily make statements such as this..
You take alot for granted don't you ? Hope you never suffer the consequences that I have.
#225
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That Girl,
Sorry, I really cannot tell if this 2nd Gear Recall is similar to those situations you have ever suffered. If your car has less than 15k, the installation of oil jet kit "may" simple ease your worry. You could check that TSB (04-020) I've posted, which includes the detailed and necessary information.
Try to install that kit soon.
Wish those info could be helpful.
Sorry, I really cannot tell if this 2nd Gear Recall is similar to those situations you have ever suffered. If your car has less than 15k, the installation of oil jet kit "may" simple ease your worry. You could check that TSB (04-020) I've posted, which includes the detailed and necessary information.
Try to install that kit soon.
Wish those info could be helpful.
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My luck lateley ceases to amaze me ...My car is over the 15k milage.. even though I don't drive it much ...other family members do.....I will stop them from driving it now to this matter is cleared...
Thankyou for your post.
Thankyou for your post.
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Originally Posted by That Girl
My luck lateley ceases to amaze me ...My car is over the 15k milage.. even though I don't drive it much ...other family members do.....I will stop them from driving it now to this matter is cleared...
Thankyou for your post.
Thankyou for your post.
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I guess people that havnt gone through a tranny every 25k miles just dont get it. When Honda tells you they've fixed the problem, what they're really saying is it's cheaper to keep recycling these trannies and fool people into keep buying the cars then it is to find a whole new list of suppliers of tranny parts.
Look i've had 2 trannies replaced that had all the redesigns and modifications per the report to the NHTSA, They BOTH failed in the same manner and same rate that the first 2 did! The fact that now they're "moved on" to the 2nd gear means only that they've shored-up the 3rd gear enough to forget about it, but whats next? time/mileage will only tell.
It should be obvious to all here that the 3rd gen has the exact same tranny as the 2nd gen, why else would the recall effect them all the same!?
And also just because the recall says 15,000 miles is the magic # doesnt mean damage is not done at 1k or 5k or ?. Fact is if you commute you've probably "lugged" 5th gear several times causing damage.
That Girl,
Previous to your post ive only heard of your ordeal second hand, even then it was very disturbing. I hope you come to some resolve with Honda. Good Luck, and God bless.
Look i've had 2 trannies replaced that had all the redesigns and modifications per the report to the NHTSA, They BOTH failed in the same manner and same rate that the first 2 did! The fact that now they're "moved on" to the 2nd gear means only that they've shored-up the 3rd gear enough to forget about it, but whats next? time/mileage will only tell.
It should be obvious to all here that the 3rd gen has the exact same tranny as the 2nd gen, why else would the recall effect them all the same!?
And also just because the recall says 15,000 miles is the magic # doesnt mean damage is not done at 1k or 5k or ?. Fact is if you commute you've probably "lugged" 5th gear several times causing damage.
That Girl,
Previous to your post ive only heard of your ordeal second hand, even then it was very disturbing. I hope you come to some resolve with Honda. Good Luck, and God bless.
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Originally Posted by That Girl
"""""Originally Posted by TLGator
WHat the hell is the big fucking deal? Some people here are scared? Some are outraged? You're kidding, right? Wasting those big emotions on something as trivial as this?
So there's a recall. Fine. You take your car in, they do what they have to do. Yes, it's annoying, and yes, it's a little puzzling that Honda continues to have these tranny issues. But scared? Outraged? Please. Get a grip. It's a fucking car and the odds are better you'll win the lottery and get hit by lightening on the same day than actually suffer any personal harm because of this recall.
If this is the worst thing that happens in your life this year, praise God and be thankful. Some of you people really need better coping skills if you get so rattled by a recall on your car."""""
Until you get in an accident and deal with the injurie's I am .....You can easily make statements such as this..
You take alot for granted don't you ? Hope you never suffer the consequences that I have.
WHat the hell is the big fucking deal? Some people here are scared? Some are outraged? You're kidding, right? Wasting those big emotions on something as trivial as this?
So there's a recall. Fine. You take your car in, they do what they have to do. Yes, it's annoying, and yes, it's a little puzzling that Honda continues to have these tranny issues. But scared? Outraged? Please. Get a grip. It's a fucking car and the odds are better you'll win the lottery and get hit by lightening on the same day than actually suffer any personal harm because of this recall.
If this is the worst thing that happens in your life this year, praise God and be thankful. Some of you people really need better coping skills if you get so rattled by a recall on your car."""""
Until you get in an accident and deal with the injurie's I am .....You can easily make statements such as this..
You take alot for granted don't you ? Hope you never suffer the consequences that I have.
THATS A LAWSUIT GET A LAWYER AND GET A MAYBACH DAMN THAT SUCKS
#230
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Good Grief! Here we go again!? This will be hard to take.......................
Been there, done that :shit:
Been there, done that :shit:
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"""""""""""""""""""""Good Grief! Here we go again!? This will be hard to take.......................
Been there, done that""""""""""""""""""""""""""
You have been where I have and done that too????
Why not describe your accident and injurie's for us ?
Guess you really haven't been there afterall!
To all those who posted their condolances,thankyou for the support.....
"""""""""""""""""""""Good Grief! Here we go again!? This will be hard to take.......................
Been there, done that""""""""""""""""""""""""""
You have been where I have and done that too????
Why not describe your accident and injurie's for us ?
Guess you really haven't been there afterall!
To all those who posted their condolances,thankyou for the support.....
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Might Transmission Recall Affect Saturn VUE???
Is there ANY way of knowing for sure???
Was there any announcement that as of a certain date the transmissions built from that point forward were modified, and as a result are not defective?
If so where is that announcement?
Where do I find the date code/serial number on my transmission so that I can determine when it was manufactured?
Early 2004 Pilots and Odysseys are included in the recall, while 2003-2004 MDX's are not. Does anybody know for sure why?
My VUE was a late 2004 model introduction, but the V6 VUE's were available from the beginning of the model year. Who knows when GM purchased the powertrains?
Thank you in advance for any help you may offer.
I'm just looking for a little peace of mind.
Was there any announcement that as of a certain date the transmissions built from that point forward were modified, and as a result are not defective?
If so where is that announcement?
Where do I find the date code/serial number on my transmission so that I can determine when it was manufactured?
Early 2004 Pilots and Odysseys are included in the recall, while 2003-2004 MDX's are not. Does anybody know for sure why?
My VUE was a late 2004 model introduction, but the V6 VUE's were available from the beginning of the model year. Who knows when GM purchased the powertrains?
Thank you in advance for any help you may offer.
I'm just looking for a little peace of mind.
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BTW, the 2004 Saturn VUE Redline has the same powertrain that is in the MDX, Pilot, and Odyssey, which, in turn, is about the same as the engine/trans combo in the TL's and CL's.
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Originally Posted by blkVUEredline
Is there ANY way of knowing for sure???
Was there any announcement that as of a certain date the transmissions built from that point forward were modified, and as a result are not defective?
If so where is that announcement?
Where do I find the date code/serial number on my transmission so that I can determine when it was manufactured?
Early 2004 Pilots and Odysseys are included in the recall, while 2003-2004 MDX's are not. Does anybody know for sure why?
My VUE was a late 2004 model introduction, but the V6 VUE's were available from the beginning of the model year. Who knows when GM purchased the powertrains?
Thank you in advance for any help you may offer.
I'm just looking for a little peace of mind.
Was there any announcement that as of a certain date the transmissions built from that point forward were modified, and as a result are not defective?
If so where is that announcement?
Where do I find the date code/serial number on my transmission so that I can determine when it was manufactured?
Early 2004 Pilots and Odysseys are included in the recall, while 2003-2004 MDX's are not. Does anybody know for sure why?
My VUE was a late 2004 model introduction, but the V6 VUE's were available from the beginning of the model year. Who knows when GM purchased the powertrains?
Thank you in advance for any help you may offer.
I'm just looking for a little peace of mind.
BTW, the 2004 Saturn VUE Redline has the same powertrain that is in the MDX, Pilot, and Odyssey, which, in turn, is about the same as the engine/trans combo in the TL's and CL's.
R u talking Acura 04TL?
Check the GARAGE on the top of 3G TL forum. Have you seen it yet?
Or go to Acura owner link or call ACS.
If not, sorry.
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I just saw there is a recall on the Saturn ...for tranny....Will try to find it agian ,I didn't know they used the same tranny ...
Alos someone earlier in this post asked if they could find out the date and vin effected for the OTHER problem .... There is a vin cut off number ...I will tell you my car vin is AFTER that number and had CATOSTROPHIC failure.. I know you wanted peace of mind ,but I looked at the VIN number supposedly where corrections and fix'es were done that got the NHSTA off Honda's back and the investigation was closed ...But again my car was after that VIN # And there are others as well that had failure after that VIN Cut off # .
Alos someone earlier in this post asked if they could find out the date and vin effected for the OTHER problem .... There is a vin cut off number ...I will tell you my car vin is AFTER that number and had CATOSTROPHIC failure.. I know you wanted peace of mind ,but I looked at the VIN number supposedly where corrections and fix'es were done that got the NHSTA off Honda's back and the investigation was closed ...But again my car was after that VIN # And there are others as well that had failure after that VIN Cut off # .
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Here's what I hope is a different perspective; The recall is not a bad thing and it only proves that Honda is a great company. Why? OEM's know that when they issue a recall it results in bad press, regardless of whether or not it is a safety issue or a major mechanical problem. Therefore there is a decision to make, take the hit now in terms of brand dilution due to negative public relations and recall costs, or wait and react to each individual customer squawk as they come in and hope for the best. Honda has proven that it is will to bite the bullet by issuing recalls BEFORE they become another Ford/Firestone who did wait and hope for the best.
Honda ain't GMC or Ford who don't issue a full recall until they are swamped with Technical Service Bulletin claims (a "fix it if they complain" solution). It appears to me that they are just taking care of business. The fix is not complex and costs far less than 500,000 failed transmissions. By the way, Ford and GMC carry the largest warranty reserves of any auto companies in the US, and not just because they are large companies. It's partially because they don't issue exactly this type of recall.
The sky ain't falling as another poster correctly put it.
Quote: "The company has found only one confirmed instance of a transmission failure related to this defect in its passenger cars, with no accidents or injuries. "We are acting out of an abundance of caution to ensure that this doesn't become an issue for our customers,"
Another less altruistic reason is the new TREAD legislation that was enacted by NHTSA after the Ford Exploder/Firestone debacle. Honda MUST issue it's own campaigns or risk having NHTSA issue their own recall. Honda and all other companies that sell wheeled vehicles that travel on public roads MUST report all CSR reports, all repair orders, all warranty claims and all internal campaigns to the federal gov (NTHSA - National Highway Traffic Safety Administration). If they don't, they risk HUGE fines and a HUGE public relations nightmare if NHTSA issues a recall.
I work as a business analyst for an automotive industry IT consulting company and can provide lots of "light reading" regarding warranty and other stuff if there are other automotive industry masochists out there like me .
Honda ain't GMC or Ford who don't issue a full recall until they are swamped with Technical Service Bulletin claims (a "fix it if they complain" solution). It appears to me that they are just taking care of business. The fix is not complex and costs far less than 500,000 failed transmissions. By the way, Ford and GMC carry the largest warranty reserves of any auto companies in the US, and not just because they are large companies. It's partially because they don't issue exactly this type of recall.
The sky ain't falling as another poster correctly put it.
Quote: "The company has found only one confirmed instance of a transmission failure related to this defect in its passenger cars, with no accidents or injuries. "We are acting out of an abundance of caution to ensure that this doesn't become an issue for our customers,"
Another less altruistic reason is the new TREAD legislation that was enacted by NHTSA after the Ford Exploder/Firestone debacle. Honda MUST issue it's own campaigns or risk having NHTSA issue their own recall. Honda and all other companies that sell wheeled vehicles that travel on public roads MUST report all CSR reports, all repair orders, all warranty claims and all internal campaigns to the federal gov (NTHSA - National Highway Traffic Safety Administration). If they don't, they risk HUGE fines and a HUGE public relations nightmare if NHTSA issues a recall.
I work as a business analyst for an automotive industry IT consulting company and can provide lots of "light reading" regarding warranty and other stuff if there are other automotive industry masochists out there like me .
#238
All, I am new to forum. I wanted to post up and say that I am experiencing issues with my transmission between 3 and 4th. I notice a noticeable vibration when I slowly accelerate between 32 and 40 mph. Once the car shifts to 4th everything seems find. I just called Acura, out of curiosity, and found out that my TL, which is in the 44xxx range, is not affected by the recall. Since the car is out of warranty, I had since taken it to a reputable Japanese mechanical and had the trans fluid (not flushed) changed twice over a two week period. It has reduced the vibration, but there still a is little bit.
#239
Jokerman
All, I am new to forum. I wanted to post up and say that I am experiencing issues with my transmission between 3 and 4th. I notice a noticeable vibration when I slowly accelerate between 32 and 40 mph. Once the car shifts to 4th everything seems find. I just called Acura, out of curiosity, and found out that my TL, which is in the 44xxx range, is not affected by the recall. Since the car is out of warranty, I had since taken it to a reputable Japanese mechanical and had the trans fluid (not flushed) changed twice over a two week period. It has reduced the vibration, but there still a is little bit.
#240
holy 4 1/2 year dead thread revival!!!
try looking in the problem and fixes thread for current trans info
Acura has learned a lot since 2005
try looking in the problem and fixes thread for current trans info
Acura has learned a lot since 2005