Steen Jensen

Had a lot of trouble , as predicted , loosening the crank bolt for timing belt job. I don’t know if anyone has previously discovered this but...

Long story short...the lug nut wrench in the trunk is the correct size for the bolt and more importantly is the exact right length to rest on the forward subframe as you bump the starter motor. Broke the bolt free on first attempt. Don’t forget to disable ignition when you do this.

Turbonut

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Don't know about the lug wrench as being the correct size, but many have used a socket/breaker bar,
then hit starter to loosen bolt.

zeta

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Just curious.
Did you pull a particular fuse on the driver or passenger side fuse box?
Or did you disconnect the individual connectors at the fuel injectors?

t-rd

You just need to pull fuel pump fuse. It should be in the driver's side lower fuse panel.

On the other hand, an investment in a Milwaukee 2767 + Lisle 19mm harmonic balancer socket zips it off in 1 second.

Steen Jensen

I was changing the spark plugs while doing the TB service so I had removed them.

I was going to attempt the "breaker bar" method but I could not get it set up without some degree of angularity. The lug wrench did look a little soft but there was no problem. The beauty of the "lug wrench" method was that it rested on the sub frame at a perfect 90 degree angle.

zeta

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LOL, you are brave.

I won't even start a TB replacement without first making sure that TB crank bolt has been subdued.

Steen Jensen

I hear ya. I have no problem buying tools to do the job right. I had read though , that many people had not had any luck with an impact gun so I bought the funny looking tool that holds the crank while you reef on the crank bolt. No workie...

Sitting on my butt with right side wheel off and tools all around me including the lug wrench that I removed the wheel with , a light bulb lit up...

I really like this solution because the breaker bar is so long and the leverage makes the universal joint on it susceptible to failure. Not so with a primitive lug wrench.

zeta

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Well Done!



In the heat of the moment, that's what Gunny Highway would have called “Improvise, Adapt and Overcome!”

t-rd

Many people have not had luck with air impact gun, using a thin walled socket, with air dialed up way past 150psi. That's because the torque is lost through the socket shaking and vibrating. The Lisle huge massed socket makes a huge difference. It's like using a 5lb hammer instead of a 1lb hammer on a peg. The super long cheater bar on a wrench is a thing of the past and quite frankly, is very dangerous to do. There is a reason why you don't see a Honda tech doing that at a dealer.

ProfessorFunk

Lisle 77080

zeta

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I recognize any money spent on something like the Milwaukee 2767 would be a great investment; however, looking at the prices of this thing ($419.97 on Amazon ) is making it a no-go.

Is there a suitable, less expensive, alternative that would almost do as well?

t-rd

$419.97 is for the Milwaukee 2767-22, with battery + charger that's why it's super expensive. But the price seems to have gone up quite a bit DAMN. I do have my old Milwaukee 2763?? Anyone interested? Tool only. I will post it in the marketplace if anyone is interested. You'll need battery and charger. But honestly the Lisle heavy mass socket is the key. I used just a mid torque electric impact I borrowed the first time I did a timing belt job and it took that crank bolt off with the socket.

redbeard1

Hello,

The Milwaukee has 1400 lbs of breakaway torque. The dewalt has 1200 lbs and is $250 at home depot, amazon for charger, battery, and tool.

Dewalt - Up to 700 ft-lbs of max torque and 1200 ft-lbs of max breakaway torque

Milw - 1,000 ft-lbs of fastening torque and 1400 ft-lbs of nut-busting torque



I got the dewalt a few years back on a black Friday sale thinking it would be useful whenever my timing belt service comes due. It has been very useful in many suspension projects.

If you get a mid torque version, make sure you get the lisle socket.

srg818

I've thought about this method but with my luck I'll get an extra snug crank bolt and the thought of breaking teeth off the flywheel gives me nightmares.