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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 11:46 PM
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Brake pad/rotor thoughts

I am looking in purchasing these rotors in the next day or so. Is there any reason I should not buy these. Is there any horrible reviews on them because from research seems like most people like them.
http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-276953.aspx

What pads do i get with them stoptech or hawk pads?
I drive an 08 acura tl type s

Also i am painting callipers in the process. I was thinking of painting over the e coat on the rotors to prevent rust in the long run. Would this be useless to do and should i just leave the coating alone and install them like that? Anyone have them show rust or they still holding up for a while?
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 11:47 PM
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Those are AWESOME rotors.
I wish I had the incentive to buy them lol
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 11:52 PM
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I have heard that either drilled or slotted rotors can cause premature pad wear whether that is true or not im not sure, but I would look into it if I were you.
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by mY sLOW UA6
I have heard that either drilled or slotted rotors can cause premature pad wear whether that is true or not im not sure, but I would look into it if I were you.
Slotted does wear the pads quicker.
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 12:18 AM
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I made my mind up on the slotted. I put an avg of 5k a year so I am not worried on wear. Any ideas on painting though. Do I paint over the coating on the rotor or not worth it.
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 12:27 AM
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Those rotors are fine. Go with StopTech pads, imho.

You can paint over the coating, but there's not much point unless you're changing the color to match your calipers.
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 03:01 AM
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I recently got the Stoptech pads with the slotted rotors from XLR8...and they are fine. I noticed theres less brake dust than OEM and the initial bite when breaking is better...could be in my head but no complaints from me. Had them for a little bit over 1k miles i believe!
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 08:34 AM
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You can get them for $79 shipped each ya know, instead of paying $99 each + $28 shipping.

http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1...=1920&bih=1084

BTW: The stoptech pads are great. Lots of Centric dealers carry them at super low prices. ~$70 shipped. Search Google via part number 309.10010. Here is $67 shipped: http://www.amazingsavingsautoparts.c...tem&id=6136499

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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by danl23880
I am looking in purchasing these rotors in the next day or so. Is there any reason I should not buy these. Is there any horrible reviews on them because from research seems like most people like them.
http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-276953.aspx

What pads do i get with them stoptech or hawk pads?
I drive an 08 acura tl type s

Also i am painting callipers in the process. I was thinking of painting over the e coat on the rotors to prevent rust in the long run. Would this be useless to do and should i just leave the coating alone and install them like that? Anyone have them show rust or they still holding up for a while?
We have had a number of great reviews on these packages. They include high quality components that we run on local and online customers. The brake dust is similar to the factory Brembo pads but with better performance. The rotors are a Power Alloy composition.

Our brake kits come with STOPTECH Performance pads.
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 11:52 AM
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My thoughts on brakes for the 3G TL: https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/performance-brake-upgrade-cheap-sorta-807814/
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 01:06 PM
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My thoughts on brakes for the 3G TL: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=807814
Good info and summary.


To add one thing, re: Brake Fluid. There are a number of DOT 4 fluids with better wet and dry boiling points than many DOT 5.1 Fluids.

The thread linked below lists numerous TL compatible brake fluids (DOT 3, DOT 4 and DOT 5.1) along with Wet/Dry Boiling Points.

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/d-002-tl-compatible-brake-fluids-boiling-point-specs-793891/
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 09:13 PM
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Thanks guys I am going to possibly purchase in the next few days. How are the rotors and e coat holding up. DO they show any signs of rust. As you can tell I am going a little but for the look. I am undecided if i should paint them or not.
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 06:18 AM
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After a year, the rotors are holding up pretty well. I have a little rust but nothing major.
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by danl23880
Thanks guys I am going to possibly purchase in the next few days. How are the rotors and e coat holding up. DO they show any signs of rust. As you can tell I am going a little but for the look. I am undecided if i should paint them or not.
I'm afraid I can't help too much with this. I sold the car about 7 months after I did all that. The current owner is on this board though; maybe he'll chime in.
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 01:16 PM
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I have been running these rotors since ~85K miles now....and they are not showing signs of wear....

I have them coupled with HAWK HPS pads and damn do they stop on a dime....I would recommend this setup to anyone....

My rear I have no replaced in 85K miles....same hawk HPS pads and same rotors....
My fronts I replaced the HAWK HPS with HAWK HPS after 40K miles and they still had 20% life on them, this current set has lasted me 45K miles upfront and still plenty of life left....

PS: I do get brake dust but they stop great, no noise so well its a fair trade off IMO...
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 10:49 PM
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Ok I have held off and done a few more reviews but do plan on pikcing up shortly. This by all means should and will perform better then the oem rotors and pads correct? Someone reasure me. Almost sold on the xlr8 slotted rotors and stoptech pads.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 10:54 PM
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^^^ DO EEEETTTTT !!!!

have heard nothing but good things about XLR8 products and customer service....
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 11:31 PM
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thanks again. Noob question. I understand my car (08 tl type s) HAS BREMBO FRONTS. I also understand compared to reg brake system the brembo performs a lil better as far as stopping power. Is the main thing when people ask if you have brembo brakes when buying meaning just the pads are probably bigger then the reg calliper when purchasing?
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 11:53 PM
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bigger pads/bigger rotors (i think) but the main thing is the caliper...i think the Type S have a 4 piston caliper...

PS: I own a Base so, someone with a Type S please correct me if am wrong....
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 12:11 AM
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4-piston caliper is stiffer for better pedal feel and the different size pistons create more even pressure on the pad for more even wear. That is the benefit of a 4-piston caliper.

Larger rotor holds more heat for better fade resistance.

Please keep in mind that the tires actually stop the car, and it has little/nothing to do with an increase in brake torque. Even a small caliper and rotor can quickly overcome the available grip of the tire.

As far as the pad, the Brembo pads are not necessarily bigger than a single piston floating caliper pad. Just depends on the caliper. Pad size is not nearly as important as you think anyways. A larger pad offers slightly less thermal shock and longer wear life. That is pretty much it.

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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 12:28 AM
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thanks for the quick response. Im sold on them. Will post back up later on and tell you how the install goes.
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 02:53 AM
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Anyone got the stopping distance of this compared to stock rotors? Does it even change?
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 07:41 AM
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Probably not. As I said, larger rotors only mean you have better fade resistance. It's the tires that actually stop the car. Whichever TL that has better tires will stop the shortest (especially with ABS).
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 11:48 AM
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^^^ yes but the stopping distance will change from having a single piston caliper and 4 piston caliper right (given everything else is the same) ?
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 12:20 PM
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No, not if you maintain the exact same bias. In our cars, bias is controlled by the EBD computer. If you want to stop quicker, move weight to the trunk. EBD will take advantage of the increased grip from the rear tires. Of course this has other disadvantages.

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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 12:29 PM
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^^^ aaah....learned something today
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 02:51 PM
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If the brakes have enough power to lock up the tire (all of them do), stopping distances are the same. Only better tires can reduce stopping distances.

Bigger rotors are for better heat dissipation.

4 pot calipers are for better brake feel and more even pad wear. There's a significant difference over the 5at 1 piston caliper since it uses sliders to pull the other brake pad to the rotor.

What you don't want is more braking force than stock or you will upset the brake bias, resulting in longer stops. My Rotora kit actually hurt stopping distances when threshold braking. That's why I'm ordering Stoptech since they actually pay attention to brake bias.

Tires are for shorter stopping distance.

Basically what 94eg! has been saying.
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