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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 12:58 PM
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Back to Basics ... Bye Bye TL

Didn't see this day coming so soon, but I have traded in my 2008 TL on a 2014 Honda Civic Si. I owned a '99 Si for 12 years and loved that car, but as I was crossing the other side of 40 figured I was ready for an auto, V6 and a little luxury. Well, it wasn't for me. This was my first auto and despite the great engine and sport shifting transmission, it was just too mundane a drive. That combined with not being able to shake the feeling that I bought a car that was based on a design dating to pre 2004 AND the constant worry about dash cracks and transmissions, I decided to let it go.

I looked at the VW CC R-Line; Acura ILX (manual) and Jetta GLI. I was interested in the 2015 GTI and the Mazda 3, but didn't want to wait for the GTI and Mazda 3s (the bigger engine) could not be head with a manual.

I am really impressed with the technology in the new Civic's, it's quite impressive; from being able to display Honda's GPS app from your phone on the 7" touchscreen to the headlights turning on when you turn on your windshield wipers and Siri Hands-Free, it's all pretty neat.

The car has a stiff ride ("sport" tuned syspension + 18" wheels / 40 series tires + FIRM seats) but I am adjusting. Loving the control a manual gives and how driving is fun again.

Anyway, wanted to thank everyone for all of the information and ideas shared on Acurazine that I learned from. Here are a couple of pics:





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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 01:01 PM
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congrats on the Si!!
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 02:58 PM
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Congrats, that is a fun car.

BTW I just realized where Acura got the inspiration for the TLX prototype wheels.
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 03:02 PM
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Congrats!! Looks nice!
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 03:04 PM
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looks like fun
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 03:08 PM
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I thought the Si was crap when they redesigned it in 2012, but every year Honda keeps making big improvements to it and I have to admit they're pretty damn nice now. Nice car, congrats.
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 03:14 PM
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I'd love an Si and I'd make the switch from a 5AT TL to an SI any day! Nice pick up!
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 04:03 PM
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Good looking car. Definitely sounds like you made the right choice for you with giving up the TL.
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 05:14 PM
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Nice Si! I do love the redesign - I'm digging the wheels too.
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 06:05 PM
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Congrats-very nice ride.
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 07:35 PM
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Nice si, I think you made a pretty solid move, considering what you said you wanted out of a car. Its got plenty of advantages over the 3g.
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 07:53 PM
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How does the performance feel compared to the 3G, now that honda beefed up the Si motors?
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 10:34 PM
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Very nice!
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Old May 1, 2014 | 12:14 AM
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nothing wrong with that selection!
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Old May 1, 2014 | 12:34 AM
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Congrats

I wish they'd bring the new Type R over here! I cant go back to a 200hp i4 anymore, but I would also take a manual Si over an auto 3G.

More pics of those seats please! Are they power seats?

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Old May 1, 2014 | 12:55 AM
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At least you stayed in the family. Congratulations on the new ride.
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Old May 1, 2014 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 1black_seven
How does the performance feel compared to the 3G, now that honda beefed up the Si motors?
well, he stated in the original thread that the auto 5 speed TL Sucked balls.
even tho, the Si has WAY less power and the TL will spank it at any speeds...
he chose this car because it offered way more "control" than the archaic 5 speed auto.

this more control over the engine gives the OP way more enjoyment than the 3G.

the context of your question does not match his reasoning on why he bought the car.

basically, the Si is nice and offers a drivers car. being more engaged in a car can bring enjoyment over the raw sheer power of a bigger engine
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Old May 1, 2014 | 06:42 AM
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Congrats to you man! I loved my 07 Civic Si 6 speed! But, I matured a little and now have my TL type S 6 speed!!! I love it, and do not miss my rough riding Si. My Si was fun, but my TL-S 6 speed is fun, and luxurious too. I love it, but the Si's will always have a place in my heart. I always look at the Si's I see as I blow by them in my TL-S! We are all Hondas anyway!
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Old May 1, 2014 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 1black_seven
How does the performance feel compared to the 3G, now that honda beefed up the Si motors?
It's a different beast all together ... The TL's V6 is very smooth and responsive, no doubt about that. As I mentioned, I had a '99 Si 160hp/111tq; compared to the new 2.4 engine with 205hp/179tq, the new Si is plenty easy to drive. You can make turns at intersections (i.e. 12-15mph) and stay in 3rd gear easily and I don't need to shift out of 6th on the highway (to keep up with traffic) unless my speed drops below 50.

Performance wise specifically, both are quick, but accomplish thier speed very differently.

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Congrats

I wish they'd bring the new Type R over here! I cant go back to a 200hp i4 anymore, but I would also take a manual Si over an auto 3G.

More pics of those seats please! Are they power seats?
I'll get some more pics soon for ya... Seats are manual, 6 way adjustable and very firm.

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well, he stated in the original thread that the auto 5 speed TL Sucked balls.
even tho, the Si has WAY less power and the TL will spank it at any speeds...
he chose this car because it offered way more "control" than the archaic 5 speed auto.

this more control over the engine gives the OP way more enjoyment than the 3G.

the context of your question does not match his reasoning on why he bought the car.

basically, the Si is nice and offers a drivers car. being more engaged in a car can bring enjoyment over the raw sheer power of a bigger engine
Definitely enjoy more control and the nimbleness of the Civic Si. Don't know about "spank" ... it's surprisingly quick.

Originally Posted by StealthTL-S
Congrats to you man! I loved my 07 Civic Si 6 speed! But, I matured a little and now have my TL type S 6 speed!!! I love it, and do not miss my rough riding Si. My Si was fun, but my TL-S 6 speed is fun, and luxurious too. I love it, but the Si's will always have a place in my heart. I always look at the Si's I see as I blow by them in my TL-S! We are all Hondas anyway!
...Matured a little...lol... me too! I was concerned about the image of the car. Hell, I still remember the discussions about the "Si" in the Gone in 60 Seconds and the whole FnF responses to Si's, but you know what, most people don't care.

The Si's ride is FIRM! and it's LOUDER! I am adjusting ... I tell ya ... from inside the car, with the engine/exhaust note and close ration trans, I always feel like I am racing around now...
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Old May 1, 2014 | 10:27 AM
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BTW I just realized where Acura got the inspiration for the TLX prototype wheels.
Where? I doubt it came from the Civic. The NSX Concept wheels also have these features. Wherever the design came from, Honda seems to be applying it across several models.
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Old May 1, 2014 | 10:38 AM
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Did you have the brz or frs on the list when you were shopping? Why Si over frs or brz?

Congrats on you new car!
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Old May 1, 2014 | 11:12 AM
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love the choice, hate the wheels. i miss my 99 si too. i have noticed older people like us driving the newer civics
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Old May 1, 2014 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cokorote
Did you have the brz or frs on the list when you were shopping? Why Si over frs or brz?

Congrats on you new car!
My son kind of ruled out the FRS/BRZ ... Those cars appealed to me so much, especially the RWD that I was seriously considering it even though I knew I really needed a functional backseat. I never test drove one to avoid any further temptation. I'll tell you though, the LSD in the Si really makes a difference ... that and the electronics and modern chassis have made RWD cars so neutral ... They'll never live up to the memories I have of my '90's 240SX.

BTW ... Did you see C&D's write up on their long term BRZ in this months issue? Brutal and if not the exception, unfortunate!
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