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Old Nov 26, 2014 | 11:05 AM
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97k Transmission Fluid change

Got around to doing the oil change, pretty simple process of removing the plastic cover under the car, a 3/8" ratchet fits the drain bolt (no socket needed), just shy of 3 qts came out. I measured it to be sure and also checked the oil for any large objects. Replaced the bolt - torqued it (36ft-lbs). There is a ATF filler bolt on top and is accessed from the engine compartment. Topped it up with 3 qts of DW-1 honda tranny fluid. Tightened the filler bolt (33 Ft-lbs). I used this video as a guide:

I took pics of the oil drain bolt magnet, no large items after 97K use.





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Old Nov 26, 2014 | 11:22 AM
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you've completed a 1x3!

Do it 2 more times!!
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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 06:15 AM
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Yeah, I have read about the 3x3, I think I'll do the next change next spring and then another in the fall.
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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
you've completed a 1x3!

Do it 2 more times!!


Just an FYI for anyone that watched the video:
It's been stated many times before, remove the fill bolt first, before the drain bolt.

Also, certainly didn't look Honda DW-1 ATF, unless they sell it in a Castrol conatiner.
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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 06:43 AM
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Just an FYI for anyone that watched the video:
It's been stated many times before, remove the fill bolt first, before the drain bolt.

Also, certainly didn't look Honda DW-1 ATF, unless they sell it in a Castrol conatiner.
Not his video, if you look at the magnet you'll see a black TL in the background. The white TL is just another user video.
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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by polobunny
Not his video, if you look at the magnet you'll see a black TL in the background. The white TL is just another user video.
Never took notice of the 2 different cars. You must be good at spot the difference puzzles!
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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Desmovtec
Yeah, I have read about the 3x3, I think I'll do the next change next spring and then another in the fall.
Do it sooner if you feel the tranny needs it. ie: rough shifts.


Also, have you changed the 3rd and 4th pressure switches?
these are also important to change out, regularly.
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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 10:32 AM
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Here are the correct part numbers for 04-06 5AT

3rd Gear Switch
old#: 28610-ray-003
new#: 28610-ray-013

4th Gear Switch
old#: 28600-ray-003
new#: 28600-ray-013

Originally Posted by sixsixfour
Since there is no formal guide other than the one in the service manual, I decided to document the replacement of my 3rd and 4th gear pressure switches.

For the record, my transmission has about 35,xxx miles at the time and I am the first owner. The shift quality is decent, I haven't noticed anything unusual other than 3rd gear holding on steep inclines under load. I just recently did a 1x1 drain/refill of the transmission fluid at an Acura dealer as well (about 1K miles ago prior).

Materials needed:
x1 3rd Gear Pressure Switch (28600-P7Z-003)
x1 4th Gear Pressure Switch (28600-P7W-003)
x2 sealing gasket (90471-PW7-A00)
x1 brake cleaner (to wash away residual AT fluid)

Tools required:
10mm wrench
22mm wrench
flathead screwdriver
lift (or jackstands)


On to the pictures.





I brought my car to my friend's shop (where he did the Accord foglight install). the car was raised and immediately, you will have access to one of the switches. You first undo the two 10mm bolts that hold a shroud, and then unplug the two connectors just so that you can swing the shroud out of the way:



to see which bolts im talking about, see this pic from e30cabrio:



that open hole in the middle of the pic is for one of the bolts. the TL has two holding that shroud.

the other switch is visible once you remove part of the splash cover along the inner fenderwall. this is what you should see:




You will need a 22mm wrench to unscrew each switch from their location. once you got them loose, unscrew by hand. unplug the connectors as you go and reconnect them once you put everything back. I suggest doing one sensor at a time.



Now for the details.

I noticed that the transmission housing has moulds on it that actually tell you which is which. Now, those who may know which switch is which may have no problem, but in the event you forgot (like me), one way to determine which goes where is by looking for these indicators, see below:



The amount of fluid that drips out is not much, but to get a sense what to expect, I took a shot:



You will need to use the brake cleaner to remove the residue of the AT fluid on the parts of the suspension. depending on how much got out and where, you can just spray liberally:




Finally a pic of the switches I replaced. 3rd gear on the left, 4th gear on the right.





Driving Impressions

Immediately after having these put in, I did notice an improvement of the car's shifting habits. I can't really quantify it much, but the shift from 2nd to 3rd and 3rd to 4th now happen much quicker. Put it in another way, they arent as "sloppy" as before. Even after applying load and a couple of WOTs, they are just noticeably different. Frankly it feels like Im driving a brand new car.

I would definitely recommend this as a Preventive Maintenance item. I likely will do it in around 70K miles just to keep the 35K mile mark I set. for the low cost and ease (even though I personally didnt do it), I think it is a worthwhile investment, along with doing the drain/refill procedure for the 3G TL AT transmission.


thanks to I hate cars for starting the transmission thread and credit goes to those that provided the part numbers as well as e30cabrio for one of his reference pics.
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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 10:55 AM
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Yeah ATF change is really easy. I have one more 1x3 and need to really read more on changing the 3rd and 4th gear pressure switches. That one might be an all day job for me.
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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 12:54 PM
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What I'd also recommend is after the initial 3 x 3 drain and fill is to do a 1 x 3 every other oil change (so roughly every 15K miles) to keep the fluid fresh
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