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I think you missed the part where wifey said in two years I can buy a nicer toy. Again, we aren't broke either. I can liquidate one of the houses if necessary. So on, and so on...
I wasn't implying you were broke in any sense. I was implying timelines for current financial goals/vacation or whatever.
So tell me, how's that s2000 you always talk about buying coming along?
When was the last time I mentioned it? focusing on other more pressing current goals, as you should be because you made it seem like those were priorities for you and the wife
That's Wifey's fault. She claimed she NEEDED electricity AND clean water. Dafuq is wrong with washing in the public fountain, and finding outdoor plugins for power?
Ooh. I really like the new Accord. And I finally saw a new Civic in the lot at the grocery store the other day. Honda is starting to get it right there too.
You like the new Civic?!?!? I can understand the Accord, the front end is hot and the rear is nice. But the Civic looks like dookie all around, IMO.
There was just something about it. I saw a lot of Accord queues on it. And as a fan of legitimately small cars, the land-whale that the Civic has bloated into finally started to look like something decent to me.
As long as they don't fudge something up; Honda will sell the hell out of the new Civic.
Hmm. Spit-and-laugh smiley isn't quite right. More like Spit-and-eyes-bulge-out would be right, but that isn't in the quiver. But yeah.
I'm probably just five or so years away from perhaps considering the slight possibility of actually buying a Hyundai/Kia.
In 15 years when I buy another car... But still.
I want to see Hyundai/Kia in 5 years. Even for when we bought the sonata, almost 5 years ago now, they've come a long way. They really show no signs of slowing. However, year by year, their cars are becoming more expensive. That price gap they had between themselves and the Japanese brands is shrinking. I wonder if that will still be the case.
SSFTSX always bitches about how H/k is on the verge of bankruptcy and completely failing. I somehow don't see it. What I do see is more and more tv commercials from them, nice styling and new dealerships popping up. Another Hyundai dealership just opened here in town, not even 6 months ago.
All I can think of is when Honda or Toyota or Mazda or Subaru came to North America and everyone thought they were cheap, imported pieces of shit.
Both Hyundai and Kia's HQs were down the street and are HUGE.. Ginormous... We talking like monkey tucker size... Or polish patty college years...
I always wrote them off in the past but I think they're going to front runners in the near future
And it's totally understandable why you'd write them off. Hyundai built some seriously shitty cars in the 80s. Kia didn't even exist here. But now looking at the Genesis line... shiiiet.... besides the RLX-SH drive train, the RLX has nothing on the Genesis.
You spend the same money and the only thing the RLX owners could brag about is resale value. No wait... The only thing they can brag about is reliability. No wait... The only thing they can brag about is horsepower. No wait... The only thing they can brag about is interior room. No wait... the only thing they can brag about is styling. No wait...
Acuras past history still gives Acura momentum today. Hyundais past history still drags Hyundai today. I know I preach about h/K, but I'm really not trying to convince people to believe otherwise. They have to do it themselves.
Acura ain't shiet...
it's the Honda name I pay for.
and yes, they still have an edge over Hyundai (to me)...and probably always will. Not saying it's not a great looking, driving car and a great value for the money...but just like when I test drove the 3.8 coupe...couldn't stomach $30K on a Hyundai and having to have the first mod be to swap the badge to something that hid the brand name.
My dad had the first Excel...hatch...burgundy...paid like $7K for it brand new in 1987 and he drove that for 12 years. It fell apart but never left him stranded so it wasn't the WORST car ever.
Brand perception changes though. There was a time when a guy who loved Chevy said the same exact thing about Honda. That's why someone above said give them 10-15 years and who knows where they will be. If they keep going with the current design trends, good warranty, and somewhat competitive pricing they very well could make it to the top.
But for now I agree with you.
As for the new Civic... really guys? Lol
- too big
- lost identity
- rear end looks smooshed
- why is the hood so bulky?
- the tail "C" looks stupid from behind
- the tails look abnormally large from the side
- lets not even discuss Honda's current choices in wheels
I will say that directly from the front it looks good, decent stance, etc. But then again strictly from the front I'd immediately say it was an Accord.
Edit: I think my personal beef with the new Civic is the quasi hatch rear end body lines. If it had a normal 'Civic' type trunkline I think I'd be ok with it.
Acura ain't shiet...
it's the Honda name I pay for.
...couldn't stomach $30K on a Hyundai and having to have the first mod be to swap the badge to something that hid the brand name.
Yeah... Dropping 30k and then immediately swapping out a badge... Or a badge and a grille... Yeah... That's crazy talk!!!
- too big - chubby chaser!
- lost identity - who really needs one?!?
- rear end looks smooshed - I'd smoosh that rear end :hump:
- why is the hood so bulky? - LS Swap, DUH
- the tail "C" looks stupid from behind -the double cock mobile, get in (on)
- the tails look abnormally large from the side - side bewb wins every time
- lets not even discuss Honda's current choices in wheels -agreed, those wheels are the main reason the car looks like ass...
actually...seeing it in those shots I agree with you..looks like a wanna be crosstour which isn't totally awesome all on its own.
Honda must have lost a bet with someone and now they need to equip all their vehicles with the most hideous wheels ever imagined. Somewhere at Enkei HQ, some fatcat is laughing his ass off because all the inventory that Meth-head Eddie accidentally made on third shift is now getting sold off to Honda at a sizable profit.