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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 09:55 AM
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the brand new 2010 Dodge Challenger SRT I drove did NOT have a spare.
Hmmm...seems odd, I guess someone did a study and determined there are no longer flat tires so spares are not needed.
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 10:00 AM
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^it came with an air compressor, tho.
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 10:02 AM
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I'd rather have a spare.
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 11:19 AM
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The government mandated clean air act is pushing auto-makers to boost mpg.
No spare + jack + extra equipment = less weight / more mpg.

Just another reason the government needs to stay the fuck out of business.
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 11:23 AM
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Maybe I should get that out of my trunk too then

I get free tows if I need them.
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 11:40 AM
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a jack + spare + extra are like 75lbs MAXXXXXX....you not gonna see any difference with that....am glad they werent pushy and put 15" rims on all the cars LOL
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 11:43 AM
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75 would raise my car a little. Needz moar cinder blocks.
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 11:43 AM
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75 lbs.. yes you will. A donut and jack is more like 15-20 lbs.
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 11:45 AM
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i felt immediate gain after just taking off 30lbs.
and so did you, anil!!

your racecar is so light, it made you forget what it was like removing the first few lbs.
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 11:54 AM
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no sir, not by taking off 20-30 lbs, you wont feel a thing....i didnt

its like telling, hey when I dont have groceries in my car, i feel the car is faster and i get more MPG...

I stripped the whole trunk, (~150lbs) and i felt a slight difference....i stripped the whole rear seat and seat belts and carpet and trim (~250lbs) and totalled to 400 and felt a ton of difference....

as i said, stripping off 20-30 lbs wont make a difference, unless your butt is very sensitive...
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I can definitely feel a difference in an empty tank and a full tank of gas.

Maybe I will take the spare out.

Ideally I'd like to have another wheel/tire that's on my car for a spare. So if I did have a problem it would be like nothing happened. Donuts are ugly lol
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by swoosh
no sir, not by taking off 20-30 lbs, you wont feel a thing....i didnt

its like telling, hey when I dont have groceries in my car, i feel the car is faster and i get more MPG...

I stripped the whole trunk, (~150lbs) and i felt a slight difference....i stripped the whole rear seat and seat belts and carpet and trim (~250lbs) and totalled to 400 and felt a ton of difference....

as i said, stripping off 20-30 lbs wont make a difference, unless your butt is very sensitive...
lies.
with just the front and rear 5mph hour bumpers off ~30lbs, car became more nimble.

you're forgetting your roots, sir!!!!
roots= inaccurate.

why did inaccurate start that thread in the first place?
because he noticed an immediate gain with just taking off a little and then progressed into A LOT.


this also relates to why auto manufactures are not putting in the spare any more.
75lbs is SIGNIFICANT enough to not include them any more.

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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 11:57 AM
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Austin, tank is kinda different...

full tank = 17 gallons which is 6.1lbs x 17 = 103.7lbs
empty tank (when the light comes on you have 3 gallons left) = 18.3 lbs
totally empty (when the range goes to ZERO you have 1.3-1.5 gallons left) = 7.93 lbs

so the difference is upwards of 90lbs
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
lies.
with just the front and rear 5mph hour bumpers off ~30lbs, car became more nimble.

you're forgetting your roots, sir!!!!
roots= inaccurate.

why did inaccurate start that thread in the first place?
because he noticed an immediate gain with just taking off a little and then progressed into A LOT.
LOL...am not forgetting my roots....this is addictive...even after losing almost 700lbs am constantly looking for more options to strip weight off the car....

i did start off with the trunk, as I thought who sees inside it right....stripped the trunk off, start carrying only 4-5 gallons of gas....so i instantly lost ~150-200lbs and was like "WOW"

all am saying is car markers love that law as they can pocket more $$$...30 lbs IS NOT GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN HP/MPG....
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by swoosh
all am saying is car markers love that law as they can pocket more $$$...30 lbs IS NOT GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN HP/MPG....
got it.
thanks!
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
got it.
thanks!
aka

"fuck this argument"

Old Jan 31, 2013 | 12:09 PM
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Justn, just for u....i checked my spreadsheet again (weight loss sheet)

34.00 Spare tire delete
23.00 Trunk panels
11.00 Miscellaneous stuff in the trunk
2.00 Removed 12V air pump
1.90 Rear Diffuser plastic panel
1.50 Trunk damper
1.20 Trunk panel over latch

so total of 74.6 (if my math) is right is what you save when you empty/strip down your trunk....you will prolly save only 40-45lbs if you delete the spare tire/jack/etc

also we all know, all the cars we are talking about are FWD...the weight on the rear matters but it messes up the handling...the TL 6MT comes with 60-40 weight balance and the 5AT with 62-38....but taking the weight off the rear, now the weight bias really messes up the handling....

make sure, you strip the weight off the nose of the car as well, as that will help with the handling....
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lulz at austin!!!!!

wheres majofo to clear this up?
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 12:12 PM
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 12:16 PM
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Austin, dont make me sloth-slap you
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 12:21 PM
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But you're not a sloth...
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 12:22 PM
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^^^ you dont have to be a bitch to bitch slap someone LOL
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Yeah you do
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by swoosh


a jack + spare + extra are like 75lbs MAXXXXXX....you not gonna see any difference with that....am glad they werent pushy and put 15" rims on all the cars LOL
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75 lbs.. yes you will. A donut and jack is more like 15-20 lbs.
Nobody accused our government of being smart. Especially the current administration.
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sauceja
Nobody accused our government of being smart. Especially the current administration.
I did

Originally Posted by swoosh
all am saying is car markers love that law as they can pocket more $$$...30 lbs IS NOT GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN HP/MPG....
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 12:31 PM
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Yeah you do
umm no...a man can bitch slap someone coz that "bitch" doesnt deserve a manly punch

so imma sloth slap you, with mah feet....
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 12:32 PM
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I will chop your feet clean off.
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 12:47 PM
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 12:48 PM
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 12:57 PM
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I prefer my spare actually. Around here it is usually 45 miles or better between towns and about 70% of the area is limited or no cell coverage and if you leave your car on the side of the hwy all windows will be busted out within 48 hours.

Gotta love the MS13
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 12:58 PM
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1 lb makes a difference. If you don't believe so, you might need to retake 10th grade science.
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sauceja
Gotta love the MS13


I did like the movie Sin Nombre
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Blood in blood out was better
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Majofo, I dont deny that 1lb makes a difference....all am saying is that the difference it makes is sooo minuscule that an average customer wont feel anything and you wont get any improvements in MPG/HP....

Yes, the carmakers like that law coz now they charge you $$$ to add spare tire and jack which should have been included in the $$$ itself...
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Saucy's Glam shot in 84'

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Blood in blood out was better
orale vato..
Old Jan 31, 2013 | 01:15 PM
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Saucy's Glam shot in 84'

Anybody else notice that the front sight base is upside down?? And that guy is an idiot. You NEVER leave your finger on the trigger unless you are ready to shoot.

Funny idea Austin. Horrible picture.



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