Well, I usually don't get into much racing or "who has the faster car" stuff but this guy at school has been talking shit about my car. Some of my friends were talking about my car during one of their classes, and this dude with a 3000GT says its no match for his car. Now if he has a VR-4 I know how he would be saying my family sedan is no match, but he is usually the kind of guy who is all talk.
So out of curiosity, how fast are 3000GTs stock? Im sure the base is no problem at all, but how fast are the SL? And do simple bolt-ons make a big difference on these cars?

 

I raced my friend, and stock for stock I pulled after second gear. We are both auto. This was three or four years ago.

 

SLs aren't very fast. You should do fine.

Question, how would a 3G do against a VR-4?

 

^ I can keep up with my buddies VR4 with my 3g auto. but then again, i kept up with a 6spd 3rd gen also with i/e ..

U should be fine. THE SL is a piece. Huge tank. u got headers, u should be able to give that guy a run.

 

Alrite thnx for the input. Wasn't too worried up to the SL with my typeS with I/H/P, but wasn't sure for I only saw mostly vids of VR-4s on YouTube.

 

SL's are slow and heavy, A VR-4 is a different story, they have the power to move that weight, so if it's an SL go for it but if a VR-4 I would think otherwise unless you have some boost or nitrous

 

If you're a Type-S i/h/p you'll smoke him.

 

VR4's are no joke...esp modded

SL's suck....it'll probably break down before the race is over

 

Think you can keep up with me?

 

Not now, that you're s/c'd. but i'm down to run you again, dig tho. I will put up my stockies

 

you should be able to take him no sweat.

 

Let me get this j-pipe installed and we will see. I am getting better on my launches and MT=posi.

 

I raced a girl that drives a 3000GT SL 5MT with I/E and maybe more. In 1st gear she did ok but once I hit second I just pulled pretty hard on her. At 90MPH she was quite a ways back lol.

 

The 3rd gen regular TL 6MT can take out the VR-4. The VR-4's problem is the weight and AWD train. 300HP is nowhere enough. This car only shines from 0-30, 40'ish. After that it's worthless.

 

I've seen a 3000GT SL 5MT with I/E/DRs and I believe headers posting mid 14s a few years back. I've also seen a stock SL 5MT running high 15s because the driver was absolutely worthless and peg-legging the thing through 1st and most of 2nd. The SL 5MTs weigh about 3,150lbs and have 222hp stock.

 

Stock for stock please. We are talking comparing cars stock. And forget the stupid drag strip racing..

 

LMAO. u will def. win. if u dont, then. Anyways, so I heard u went to my buddies Sushi restaurant in SJ and he told me about your S/C TL. He drives a anthracite colored 350z, 6-spd. Dunno if you know who i'm talking about.

 

I used to have a base model 3000gt. In 1997 the went to a SOHC which put out 161HP and they moved the DOHC to the SL which has 222hp. I wouldn't worry about either. If its a VR4 hope that you guys go from a roll because the AWD the VR4 has would eat you up. I got to ride in a highly moded VR4 and we raced a 1st gen Viper. The VR4 beat him by 2 cars but we also started at 45 and stopped at 125. I know i know useless info!

 

I believe the SL is 3322lb instead of 3150.

 

I just went to this website.http://www.team3s.com/FAQ-Specs1.htm

The years range in weight from 3351lbs to 3580lbs for the 3000GT SL 5MT probobly due to one had RWD and one had AWD. I raced the AWD version which is a porker! The Dodge stealth was much lighter @3076lbs with that engine in ES & RT trim also RWD of course. That would smoke the SL 3000GT. with the same engine and chassis. The same 222hp@6000rpm and 201TQ @4500RPM. I raced a RT Stealth stock and was able to pull on him from a roll. That was pretty quick compared to the SL I raced with mods.

 

Reading comprehension owns you. Read post #1.

 

There was no RWD 3000gt or Stealth. Also there is no SL that has AWD. There was one year (I believe 1995) tyhat they offered a Spyder model. It had a very heavy retractable hard top. That could be the one that weighs 3580lbs.

 

So you say there is no 3000GT that is RWD but their is no SL 3000GT that has AWD. I was not aware that the SL only came in FWD.

 

For what its worth, I raced my friends 3000GT with my 91' Legend in high school and he only had me by a fender

 

The only options for a 3000gt are FWD and AWD. AWD is only on the VR4. If you can find a pic of the engine bay you will see all of the motors in the 3000gt a placed in sideways (the way a FWD car has there engine). They are cool cars. I had one for my first car and I loved it. Mine was really slow though because it was the SOHC (161hp). Still fun though.

 

I wouldn't get too carried away. Sure, a 6MT base CAN pull on a VR-4, stock to stock, but it won't be the norm. The VR-4 was up to 320 hp in the late 90's with 300+ torque. It was generally a 14 flat car to the 14.3-14.5 6MT TL. That said, I never really saw the appeal of the VR4, especially at 40K plus. I would've taken a Supra over one, hands down.

 

I remember watching GTO (3000GT equivalent in Japan) was neck-to-neck with a Skyline GTR in a 1/4 mile race.

Here is the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9qfW...eature=related

13.5s for the GTO vs 13.44 of the R32 GTR. Note that the GTR got the jump too.

 

^^Those 3rd Gen RX7's were very cool cars. Mazda totally flopped with the RX8, IMO. On a side note, that run with the RX7 was a really good display of how long legged Acura's 3.2 really is. That NSX came back hard FTW.

 

I think that was actually the NA1 NSX with 3.0L V6 because they only had the R32 GTR, not the newer R33. If that's the case, that's the slowest NSX, yet it's still pretty quick

And yea, that RX7 had a very decent launch, and it only had 265hp?

 

255 for the Mazda. Those MR2's were a pretty good bang for the buck, too. For 18-19K, they'd run with the Camaros and Mustangs in a straight line and murder them everywhere else. Hell, they were only a couple ticks slower than the Vette. This was a cool, nostalgic video!

 

yea! MR2's are great, I'd imagine they are pretty reliable too. And the way that it jumped out of the hole was pretty amazing. MR ftw.

 

I raced a 3000GT about a year ago not sure of the model but it was the twin turbo one. I was on the way to a waterfall with a couple of my friends planning on jumping off and haning for a while. As I was getting off an exit taking a right I see the 3000 GT with a passenger and they were smiling/laughing towards my directions.. That was that, I followed them when they took there turn and we both got directly back on the highway. We ran em twice both times they pulled about 2 cars on me up to 140ish where I was beginning to catch up but shut it down.

 

Why would you take a race up to nearly 140 anyways?
Also at 140ish, how much faster do you think you could've gone?

 

hmm.
my friend who's taking courses at UTI in NC said they learned some about 3kgt's and he said the vr-4 is supposedly one of mitsubishi's first super cars with two twin turbos stock. so if its a vr-4 i think it might be more than you think.

but i've also seen vids of the sl's and bases, and from what i've seen there acceleration is horrible

 

I would take the race to 140 because as I said he was smiling/laughing towards my direction, because we were on an almost empty highway, because I was trying to pass him, and lastly because I pay for my car and thats how I wanted to drive it. And how much faster do I think I could've gone? Idk, I have been to 145ish in 5th with still 6th to go (im sure theres a limiter but my guess is that I can get my car up to 150-153?)

 

I have owned an SL and raced a few VR4s. These cars are SOOOO inconsistant it is hard to say, depending on driver and car build you should do alright... here is why i say they are inconsistant, I had an SL with intake and exhuast and it would beat my 240sx, but I raced a friends VR4 with my 240sx (from a stop) and beat it 1/4 mile. I would say take ur chances and if you lose, o well just say "wow your twin turbo awd, beat my family sedan" and if you win say "wow my family sedan beat your twin turbo awd!!"

 

They were a neat car back in the day. Faster than some of the Ferraris back then. It was a high 13s car. Now that even family sedans are so much faster, the VR-4 doesn't stand out in stock form. Then again, the TL is as fast or faster than the original NSX.

From a roll, a well driven manual TL-S should consistantly beat one. From a roll, a manual base would have a fighting chance.

From a dig if the driver can take advantage of the AWD and drive, it's not likely the TL will make up the difference through a 1/4 mile. Throw a few hundred dollars in mods to each car and the VR-4 will destroy a TL.

I beat a VR-4 in my stock base but we launched even so I knew the driver sucked and his car just didn't have the pull that it should've. If it was making stock power, he would've pulled me pretty good. I would go for it, anything can happen and being that it's a turbo car, the performance could've fallen off signifigantly if not well maintained.

 

lol yeahs its a win, win situation imo

 

yeahs i see what your saying. the vr-4's were made in an era where 250 hp was like driving a race car xP so i guess thats why they considered them supercars with the whole twin turbo. but yeahs. they are still pretty beasts if they're are maintained right as you said and have a few good mods xP

 

Race if from a roll, with teh awd he will lose so much top end speed.