GreatWhite

A couple of weeks ago I took my new 06' TL for service and got an 05' TL loaner. I noticed that the 05' is faster than my 06'. It was very noticeable!!! You could feel the beast out of it!!! The 05' had about 23k miles and my 06' is pushing about 2k miles.

Does this have to do with the break-in period of the TL????

Phesto

I would say most likely yes,you gotta unlock your ponies first

special-ed

I would agree also. Happens with motorcycle engines as well.

invincible569

This is just a theory of mine.. but the compression of the engine gets tighter and with less compression than advertised becasue of the buildup. With a naturally aspirated engine, the higher the compression, the better. I remember my 300z had close to 150k miles and everyone always commented how much faster it was then theirs.

Tufferson

i thought the 06 tl had 20 more horses than the 05? I was in the dealer and the on the window sheet it said 285, my 05 only has 265 i believe unless i am a tard and am mistaken in which case

xtin

Its the same, they just redid the HP ratings in 06

NFLblitze1

Honda engines are known to perform better with more miles...

Ron A

It went from 270 to 258, but only on paper. Nothing changed in the engine.

Learn how 270 became 258 in the big TL hp change for 2006 thread.

Hawhyen51

And this thread (located in the 3G Garage, #A-083) explains why the SAE adapted the J1349 standard to measure HP ratings.

ayethetiense

from what i hear, the 3G supposedly gets faster after 12k - 15k

FightingTL

My 3g is much faster at 9k than it was at 1k or 3k or 5k.


It's too bad she's sleeping for the winter.

Riu

Same with mine. My 04 has about 12k miles and it picks up better now.

JERU

There is a little something that Acura added for 2006 which helps reduce torque steer. It cuts back on hard acceleration. Do a search on it, its been discussed.

03CoupeV6

I just knew this thread was going to be about 258hp vs 270hp. I thought those threads would never end.

But yes, Honda engine performance gets better with age.

joflewbyu2

only on the 6 speed manuals to reduce the torque steer in 1st and 2nd, nothing on autos.

06TL

I thought the same thing?! I had a loaner today, 05 w/ 11,000 miles on it, mine is 06 w/ 4,000. Not only did I notice power difference, but I noticed the steering/handling seemed much tighter? for example, I could turn my steering wheel all around and still be going straight, whereas in the loaner, it took more to turn the steering wheel, but when you did, the car followed? Forgive, me but I don't know much about the inner workings of a car, and what does what, but I purchased the CT RSB thinking this would help w/ the steering/handling component, and no dice. The only visible difference I saw on the loaner was that the tires are Turanza whereas mine are pilot sports? Could this have something to do w/ it? Are the Turanza's better?

SebringSilver

My TL is noticeably faster when I'm driving down a steep hill.

miiipilot

I've read before that cars are their best (With the proper maintenance leading up to :-)) around 35000 miles. I can't find the exact source i'm paraphrasing, but I'm pretty positive that cars break-in throughout their lives, not just 0-3000 miles persay. So treat em well!!!

miiipilot

SebringSilver

35,000 miles?? Damn, I don't think I've ever had a car that's reached that mileage.

03CoupeV6

I'm not sure if you are serious or sarcastic but we tend to get rid of cars south of 35k miles, as well!

bluenoise

Is this a joke? You can turn your steering wheel full circle and your car still goes straight? WTF?!

bluenoise

My 04 is coming up on 35k now. About 10k miles ago, I had an 05 loaner and it was noticeably peppier than my car. The service advisor told me they changed the ECU in the 05 to give more power, but it's not compatible with my 04.

Sometimes, I wonder why these guys make up such crap instead of just saying, "I don't know."

SebringSilver

I'm serious. My '94 Acura Legend 4-door still hasn't reached 35,000 miles on the odometer. My '91 NSX was sold (after about 5 years of ownership) with fewer than 16,000 miles on it. And the '94 NSX hadn't reached 20,000 miles yet.

(Not sure how any of this is relevant to the thread. Sorry!!)

frank69m

Thank god this isn't a forum that says...

My 05 TL has 270hp and your 06 TL has 258hp....so it is faster... lol

03CoupeV6

So your TL gets all the mileage of your fleet? And the NSX in your avatar is a 94? Looks new.

nyi37

Originally the TL was claimed to have 270. the MDX had 265. But when Acura had to redo its testing for the HP under the new system (SAE HP i think its called) it became 258 not 285

fsttyms1

My 2nd gen tl (last time it was at the track, no mods added) at 175k miles than it was at 10k miles

03CoupeV6

You better use mod abilities Kris cause you messed that post up.

Here I'll help:

Kris meant to say that his stock TL at 175k miles was faster than it was at 10k miles.

shockwave

Auto or MT? Try turning off VSA on your car and see if it makes a difference.

Most cars that have been through a 10K mile break-in will have better cylinder sealing and reduced internal friction compared to a new motor.

GreatWhite

It's an 06' automatic. On a different community thread, someone said that resetting the ECU will do it. Has anyone heard of this???

(By the way, this is not a 270 HP vs. 258 HP thread. I am well aware of the new SAE HP ratings!!!)

honda nut

iTrader: (1)

My 06 loaner seemed faster than my 05!

03CoupeV6

It's best to keep in mind that all cars are different. Each TL is different than the next, slightly yes, but different. It's made by humans, it can only be expected.

jjh1234

I thought they were made by robots!

Seriously, I would think with today's tight manufacturing tolerances that there would be little variance between cars from the factory.

03CoupeV6

The robots that build cars are made by humans, controlled by computers built and programmed by humans, etc.

I didn't say there would be huge differences, but slight variance is normal.

TLdriver022

The hp is down on the 06 I don't know why it went down I think it was for emissions but I think 06 is now putting out 257hp and the 05 put out 270

03CoupeV6

It's 258hp officially and it is NOT related to anything but a change in the way the HP is measured by the SAE. Please read up on this, it's been discussed countless times.

AltecBX

What are you a mama boy. Where you born with a diamond covered spoon down your mouth. I never owned a car with less than 35k miles. I hope you aint mocking these people. If you that rich, what are you doing riding honda cars?

SebringSilver

Obviously, some of us need to work on our people skills. Check my postings, son, and see if I've ever been disrespectful to anyone on this board. I happen to admire Honda as a company and its products. Is that so bad? Isn't that why most of us actually bought something made by Honda? To suggest that someone who is "rich" (not that I would consider myself so) shouldn't be "riding Honda cars" is an insult to everyone on this board.

I suggest you sign up for that Dale Carnegie course pronto.

vtec187

Wow, I guess we don't really have any mechanics in here huh? New cars seem faster after a few thousand miles because of less parasitic loss due to break in. The compression thing if false in a newer car. Higher compression comes from carbon build up, which should be pretty much non-existant in a car with <50,000.

AltecBX

WTF, you must be losing your mind. Check yourself. All I said was why change cars before 35k miles. Is a waste of $, especially for a Honda.