PSURob12

At what point do most TypeS drivers find they need their brakes done? Is it usually just new pads, or do they go with rotors as well? Just curious as to when I should expect needing brake work.

Anyway, just wondering, thanks in advance.

BLACKURA_NY

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Depends on how you drive..

I believe Acura only rates the Brembo pads at about 25k....mine were toast (barely any pad left) at 19k. Some people claimed they've lasted about 40k.. but i highly doubt that with the brembos, unless it was like 80% Highway "cruising"


You'll know when you need new pads... the "feeling" is very apparant with the brembos, when the pads are done

bsprinker

How does this compare with the 3rd gen regular TL brake life? Also, is that 25,000 miles for the front only, or all around? And typically, what is the cost for a front brake job (pads only) done at the dealership, and the same cost for the rear pads only? Thanks for the feedback in advance.

jrobertiko

I had the same question too. I have an 07 TL-S with 17500 miles on it and have no clue as to when is a good time to replace my pads/rotors?
How do you know you it's time to get new brakes? and Do you have to replace both front and rear brakes? How often do rotors get replaced? I feel stupid asking all those questions LOL ugh

RC51Ryder

Curious, what does it "feel" like? When I got mine, the dealer had already installed new ones.

juruki

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Mine started making a lot of noise @ 14k miles and felt like they lost braking power. I drive pretty hard thou.

princelybug

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I got mine done at ~ 27k. I've read on here some people get it done before 20k. The dealer will replace pads and resurface your rotors.

The "25k" is fronts only. The base 3G front brakes should last much longer, I say a minimum of 40k. For a Type-S front brake job, expect to pay ~$400 at the dealership. Pads will run you anywhere from $175-$200, depending on the dealership. The rest is labor. The rear pads are much cheaper. I don't know how much, as I haven't gotten them replaced yet. But, a general rule of thumb is to replace them every other time you get your fronts done.

The Acura standard is to replace pads when they have 2mm left on them. You can visually see it, or just wait for the wear indicators to sound, which will sound like a squeak (metal on metal). Fronts should be replaced twice for every rear brake job (in general). The Acura OEM Brembo rotors can be resurfaced twice, but I detect a slight hint of "warping" in mine after getting them resurfaced once, with my first front brake job. Don't feel stupid, I'm sure there are many people who have the same questions.

cab13367

I just bought a 2007 Type-S with 19k miles. During the pre-purchase inspection by the Acura dealer, I was told that the front pads had 4/32nds remaining and 2/32nds was the min required to pass inspection. By comparison, the rears had like 10/32nds left. He said the stock pads alone cost $195 a set (both corners), plus labor.

I've read on this forum that there are cheaper alternatives to the oem pads and that replacing the pads are very easy and quick (there calipers are designed for that).

So can anyone recommend an inexpensive pad for the Brembos that does not create a lot of brake dust?

Thanks,

Al

Skrewologist

07 tl-s... I have 33k miles on my brakes and theyre fine. I do a lot of highway driving
But I think it's about that time to replace them. I'm getting it checked tomorrow

princelybug

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This is true. However, if you are going to keep the OEM rotors, I highly recommend you use the OEM brake pads. There are other options, which are cheaper, but I'm willing to bet that you will experiencing brake squeak, and possibly shorter rotor life.

Bearcat94

Changed my OE Front Pads at ~20k miles. Pads only, not rotors and did NOT get the rotors turned. They are fine this way.

When the pads got low, the metal squealer tab started making noise, the brakes felt softer and there a little bit of wobble through the pedal.

Got pads on ebay from an Acura dealer.

I think the OE rotors should last at least two set of pads, maybe 3 if you don't have to turn them at the 1st pad change.

Rears should last a long time 40k+ miles.

erick3

wtfuck? i've yet to have needed a brake job...i'm at 71k () of course, i'm only a TL-P - i've had my brake fluid flushed twice though? every 30kish...

dr_brains510

Had my breaks changed at 15.5K miles. I do very spirited driving though and 95% city. Bought my brembos for $150 online and installed them myself. So I saved a ton of money on labor fees.

PSURob12

I am at 18k and halfway to my next oil change. I imagine I will need pads ~20k, as the fronts were at 6/32 the last time I was in for an oil change. Would I save a good deal of money getting the pads my self, and would the dealership get pissed?

vinnier6

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do you have brembos if not were not talking about your brakes, were are talking about brembos.....

Bearcat94

My 2G has basically the same brakes as your 3G Base. I went 6 years and 65k miles in the first set of Pads/Rotors.

'07 w/Brembos? I went 20k on the first set of pads.

greco9885

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You don't have to change your rears everytime you change the front. The rears will last double the time of the front brakes. the front does a good majority of the stopping, the rears do not do that much. if you change your rears that much, you are throwing your money away

VQPower37

i doubt this is possible, but im just wondering, it is possible to fit the TL-P pads in the brembo caliper?

Excelerate

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No not even close.

vinnier6

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this is true in most cases, and hopefully for the tl as well...my last 2 accords, 98 and 01 both had rears go out before fronts....weird....

MistahSleepy

The dealership resurfaces your rotors? Is there a drastic benefit to this? Is there a way to resurface rotors DIY?

Still pretty green here, but I've been planing on doing a lot of the common maintenance myself including break pads. I've read the threads and just replacing the pads themselves doesn't seem too difficult.

greco9885

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Yes, they smooth out the rotors. Think of it like this, rubber against a smooth surface, or rubber against a rough surface. What is going to last longer?

Bearcat94

Not only smooth, but make sure each side is even and both sides are parallel to each other.

BUT by removing material from the rotor, they don't disapate heat as well. That means they *may* warp easier.

So do NOT get rotors resurfaced if they don't need it.

rockstar143

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I have an 04 TL A spec (it was the first one of that year at the dealership...it wasn't even called A spec yet) 6 speed manual. Has the gloss black ACURA calipers up front. Are these brembo too?

dannyboy10

$195. is the list price for a set of front pads (Brembo)

1.5 - 2.0 hours x dealer's hourly labor rate is the labor cost to change front pads and resurface rotors. The rate in the NYC/NY area is $105-115 per hour.

Hope this helps...

08_BlackonBlack_Type-S

Not positive bout the '04 but sounds like brembos.... Bigger calipers than base automatics, gernerally 4 pistons (two on each side of the rotor)

Black_05_TL_6SP

I have an 05 6sp, same as type-s. I had mine changed early on due to some noise (10-15k)(warrenty work). I am currently at 55k and just did a complete front end change (pads and Rotora rotors). The pads were low but still worked. I also replaced the rear rotors to match the front put kept the factory rears. They were still 80%. While I was in there I also painted the rear calipers to match the front. Did all the work myself. I do not brake hard so I managed to make the pads last quite some time. The front rotors needed to be turned if I were to continue to use them. Had a 1/16th of an inch inset for wear.

The wear is all going to depend on your driving habits.

Time to tackle the wifes MDX next.

Rafiton

I have a 08 Type-S and my brake were almost gone on 12k miles, here in Puerto Rico my routes are not too long and there a lot of city driving.

msala524

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Yea I'm at 17k and gonna be needing to change them soon. Its a good excuse to get some slotted and drilled rotors too! lol

BLACKURA_NY

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i changed mine at 19k... went with stoptech.... now im at 27k... the stoptech pads faded real quick...REAL quick... i'll be having to change everything again at 30k

i do drive rather hard...

YeuEmMaiMai

"The "25k" is fronts only. The base 3G front brakes should last much longer, I say a minimum of 40k. For a Type-S front brake job, expect to pay ~$400 at the dealership. Pads will run you anywhere from $175-$200, depending on the dealership. The rest is labor. The rear pads are much cheaper. I don't know how much, as I haven't gotten them replaced yet. But, a general rule of thumb is to replace them every other time you get your fronts done."

the bolded part is just straight up BS.....you replace your rear brakes when they wear down to min thickness...replacing them before they are due is a HUGE WASTE of your money............

I have a 02 type S with nearly 80K on my front brakes and I did my rear brakes at 55K so that puts me inline for my second rear brake job somewhere around 110K.

There are people with 2nd and 3rd gen cars that go through brakes quickly as well and on the second gen they have a tendancy to warp rotors with repeated hard stops. Want your front brakes to last longer, learn how to stop without tearing up your pads

Brembo brakes trade wear for stopping power and that is why you gotta replace them fairly quickly on that car.....if you do not like the rate that the car eats pads, try some different ones

my previous car a 98 accord LX V6 had it's first rear brake job at 90K and the fronts were still original when I sold the car with 100K on it.

PSURob12

Lots of good stuff in here. Seems to be a popular topic. That said, I will be interested to see what the dealer says when I have it in for A1 service next week at about 20500 miles.

Thanks all! I will post back with what I find out.

georgegiorgio

I took my TL-S to All Tire (Arcadia, CA), the store manager is like a bro to me.

He charge around US$ 160 for everything.

Ceramic Pads, rotor resurfacing, tire rotation, and refilled my wheels with Nitro.

I've already had Nitro in m wheels.

rockstar143

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Great deal!
If installing the brembo pads yourself...(or similar)...where does everyone get the pin and expansion tools required per the service manual?

Babnik

I wonder if any Type-S or 04-06 6MT owners have switched their brakes with the non-Type-S 5AT brakes? The much longer life might be worth the reduced performance for many drivers.

Black_05_TL_6SP

Speaking for myself as a 6MT owner, I would not consider trading the front calipers. I think those that buy the 6MT or the Type-s understand that brake wear is going to be much higher. That is one of the tradeoffs.

rockstar143

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tradeoff for performance! Of course...and they work GREAT!

george3761

'07 TL-S with 15k on it. Front pads at 6mm. They start with about 9 or 10mm.
I have a mix of city and hwy driving.

BEAR-AvHistory

You don't need either. The pins can be driven out & in with a light hammer and a small punch, awl or Philips head screwdriver.

The easiest way to push the pucks back into their bores is to put a large flat blade screwdriver between the pad face & the disk. A little wiggle will push them home. Takes almost no pressure at all.

These are the fastest & easiest pads to change I have ever come across.

phambam

I'm looking to replace my front O7 TL-S brakes.

I'm going to stick with the OEM. What is consider a good price range and what sites did you guys purchase your brakes from?