mazdaspeed3God

That is correct. It is not believable for a stock or bolt-on TL unless supercharged. A supercharged + exhaust mod I have seen trap speed of 107 mph, by types09. 106 mph trap with a bolt-on TL like the OP has cannot.


It can, even without killing the boost cut via tune.


Good good. You are now starting to agree with me. I'm surprised.

There you go buddy.

Yes especially with different cars.

Yes that is due to the difference in gearing and weight. MS3 excels.

Actually it has been reported that the 5th gear showed more torque than on 4th gear.



Funny thing is that guys like me know more than the guys that track. It's hilarious, especially the younger folks.

I hate cars

While we wait for the next genious reply, a quote from anx1300c's signature from ms3god:

From mazdaspeed3God:

"Starting from the end of 3rd gear and up this car will turn into a highway monster or called "demon". It's so scary it won't be funny at all."

So you didn't call it a highway demon, huh?

I hate cars

Now that you're blantantly trolling, how about you meet me at the track or the street, I have a stock turbo car that runs 13s at 105mph. We can end all of this BS now. My guess is I'll put 10 or more cars on you.

mazdaspeed3God

No, MS3 isn't super fast. It's just that the Honda Accord is slow for cars like MS3, 350Z, 335i, and such. Accord is not in the MS3's league.

Absolutely.

Depends on where you race. A lot of idiots out there race in the busy streets, wherever possible. What if there are some kids playing or running around nearby the street? They don't think. Racing to 150 mph might be safer because those guys do it in the open stretched highway with little to no cars around. Babies don't walk around the interstate. Racing dig or roll both are unsafe. Accept it.


I'm a lazy type of that doesn't post links. You do it. There are plenty of review articles that mention this. you just gotta dig around. We also have members at mazdaforum that have run their AP to analyze the power delivery at every gear after the runs.


Yes it does matter. It's the combination of gearing and torque that affects speed as well. Didn't you this? You track race.

Yes it does. Short gears allows the car to put down more power to the ground. This is why I kept telling you that you don't understand the gearing. You and that Nova guy whatever the hell his name is..


Not sure what that means. Maybe you got confused with someone else?

mazdaspeed3God

That depends on what car it is. I never said MS3 beats "ALL" cars that trap 105 mph. This is why I think you are still not getting it. Instead of trying to argue how about trying to listen? You will thank me later. btw, what turbo car is it?

mazdaspeed3God

You guys are so hilarious I'm having a lot of fun here. Please keep up.

Sonnick

Sigh, just ignore him. We are cluttering Alex's thread!

However, it's funny you say that Accord isn't in that league. I stuck right next to a 335i auto, within 2.5 cars of an LS2 GTO, and had a 370z 6MT CREEP on me.

SatinSilverAV6

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mazdaspeed3 - You really think the MS3 pulls harder in 4th than it does in 1st? You ever heard of a G Meter? There isn't a vehicle in this world that pulls harder in 4th than it does in 1st gear.

mazdaspeed3God

Realistically speaking, due to insufficient power and lack of torque with your long gears you will need more power. Some supercharger is needed. We have plenty of guys that raced Civic SI's with supercharger fully modded and tuned. We beat them with an simple intake or BOV. I know those supercharged and fully modded (including weight reduction) SI's run faster than yours. In order for you to beat a bone stock MS3 you will need to be able to trap about 108 mph. Your 100 mph trap will not cut it. The car is just not the same as 100 mph trap MS3. And that is what I have been trying to get you guys to understand... Reading comprehension is in order.

mazdaspeed3God

If you really can hang with a stock 335i auto (auto is a tad faster than the 6MT btw) then I can say you should have no problem hang with a stock MS3 or creep on it, till you get to 5th gear. But I wonder if it was really a race when you ran against the 335i. Driver mod?

mazdaspeed3God

The first 3 gears just don't pull has hard as they should. It's because of the power cut. It cannot be removed unless you tune it. Sounds like reading comprehension is in order.

Sonnick

Yea, I'm the driver mod

And I heard about the boost cut. However, from what I read, it is only cut when you boost higher than stock levels.

Oh, and mazda3club.com says that boost is cut in the first 2 gears, not 3.

nova_G

AP as in Access Port? I really hope you're not talking about that because Cobb (makers of AP) since you probably don't know have been around for a looooong time. Way before the MS3.

I chose to not read anything you say anymore from this point on. Everything you say is false to your own belief. I did my research thank you for pointing me the right direction.

That should end the discussion right there. The only time the power is cut is due to lack of traction or steering angle.

Also about your claim that a STOCK MS3 could roast tires: http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...tations-51324/

read and you'll see people who have turned of the DSC or whatever are having trouble spinning 2nd gear therefore this whole argument is pointless and you are just a troll.

mazdaspeed3God

I gotta go guys. No time to play with the little kids here. I need a real opponent, someone pro and more educated, more experienced. Anyways I gotta go do some work. It is a beautiful Friday.

mazdaspeed3God

Wrong. First of all, it's VSC, not DSC. VSC stands for Vehicle Stability Control, and it does not remove power cut on 1st three gears. They are permanent, programmed by factory ECU. Enabling the VSC minimize power to keep from spinning when you lose traction, i.e. in slippery conditions. Unfortunately some of the guys have no clue about their own car, especially the 2nd gen owners. Don't be so presumptuous. Are you a woman? Do you wear glasses btw? You sound just like one.

nova_G

Oh? Truth comes out and he runs away? For those who didn't see it:

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/02/02/r...on-the-bubble/

About roasting tires in third?
http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...tations-51324/

There's also a story about how a 2010 MS3 with more mods keeps loosing to a 1st gen MS3 with less mods so much for roll monster... i'm never feeding this troll again. Have a good weekend everyone

alexSU

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i'm having so much fun reading this at work!! lol seriously, thanks guys

mazdaspeed3god, you are a clown

there is a saying, goes like this....never argue with idiots (mazdaspeed3god) because they will just drag you down to their level....then beat you with experience..

good day sir :lmao:

nova_G

You're stupid i said DSC or whatever it is. stop nit picking at everything and stay on topic you can't comprehend anything anyone says.

Look please just tell me it's you Manual_Transmission then we can all be friends and understand why you post what you post.

I'm glad i'm not the only one who thought that the whole time.

nova_G

SERIOUSLY. I was thinking about posting that exact quote but i'm pretty bored at work and wanted to play. But he got me and I really lost....the idiot always wins.

mazdaspeed3God

That is actually incorrect too. it's first three gears, not 2. This applies to both 1st and 2nd gen.

mazdaspeed3God

I corrected you on every account. You lost the argument and all you can come up with is trolling. I don't see anything technical in your posts, just filled with doubts asking for links. You sound like a nerd with glasses, seriously.

I'm done for now. Don't have time to keep playing with the young amateurs, sorry.

alexSU

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I thought you had to go? why are you still posting?

Slow03Maxima

What part of the country do you live in? I could be bothered to run you on the highway and test that little theory about you beating cars that trap higher than you do in the 1/4 mile.

It might be a little embarrassing if you lose to a NA V6 granny car, but I'm sure you won't once the demonic powers of your MS3 are unleashed upon the highway in 4th gear and my little V6 falls on it's face magically and immediately after reaching my far superior 1/4 mile trap speed. At least... that's the theory I've developed as to the outcome of our race, after reading your well informed comments about the monstrous MS3 and how it wails on cars that are faster from roll races.

anx1300c

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My TL can smoke its tires in 6th gear. Wondering if there's a demon in my car.

Is there an exorcist in the house???

alexSU

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Did he just say you need to trap 108mpb to beat a MS3???? Post #169



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA are you serious??? Dude get outta here with that crap, that's crazy talk :lmao: I don't understand how you believe yourself lol

You know when you lie enough, you start believing your own bullshit..that's just sorry. I feel really sorry for you mazdaspeedgod. Seek help

TylerT

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I've personally driven an MS3 and I don't think it takes a 108mph trap to beat it.

(Yes, I did 3rd / 4th gear pulls with the salesman in the car).

I hate cars

Now you're getting it. I have to wonder why someone would knowlingly purchase a car that could no put out the rated power until 120mph. It shows a lot about the intelligence level. Then again, we all know this is about excuses.

The car I mentioned is a stock GN. Lots of torque, little hp, you should go flying past me on the top end, it should be a no-brainer. But be careful, I have those "turbo" hp too. I may just put 30 carlengths on you.

Off topic but what did you do with the IS350? This is a bit of a downgrade, wouldn't you say?

D's Up

MS3God - Dude, I'm sure plenty of people on the forums would be down to race you from a "roll". That's the only way I see this crap coming to a legitimate end.
On a side note, Nova - your G is sex.

SatinSilverAV6

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Its sad you have to wait until 4th gear to get the full effect. I wouldn't buy a car that restricts my power in 1st - 3rd gear. Have fun with your roll races!

I hate cars

He won't race. I called him out under his other username that got banned and it was nothing but excuses. I've also got pictures (dead serious, he's as skinny and nerdy as I've ever seen) of what he looks like, his other usernames, his real identity, his lies on other forums (video games ring a bell?)

F23A4

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