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Old 11-01-2006, 03:01 PM
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07 G35 vs 07 TL

I have my heart set on a TL until I saw the pricing on the 07 G35. I don't know about the rest of you, but to me, it's a no-brainer.

07 G35 Journey with Premium package is listed for about $34250, which is $600 less than 06 G35.

07 TL S is around $38500. 07 TL(258 hp) doesn't even compare to 07 G35(306 hp).

The interior of 07 G35 is so much nicer than TL S. Guys, please tell me what I am missing here.

For $4000 less, you get more HP and Japanese-built quality. G is fully assembled in Japan, while TL is in Ohio. I think the exchange rate is the reason they can sell it less than last year. 07G and 07TL-s have very similar standard features.

What gives? What am I missing?
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07 G35 > 07 Tl
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Originally Posted by CUNextTuesday
07 G35 > 07 Tl

Agree
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I would go G35 all the way. It's a better car I think. I would even take it over the TL Type-S.
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Originally Posted by Donte99TL
I would go G35 all the way. It's a better car I think. I would even take it over the TL Type-S.
I still love the TL Type-S, But I wonder if I pay $1800 over a loaded 07' G35 6MT. The New G35 is sure a step up from the old one!
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man.. the g35 is a mean car... but in a way im kinda glad i have a TL... the deal breaker for me was fwd as opposed to rwd.. i must get to work, even in the snow so the rwd would be useless for me.. and with all the mod options for the g35 i would go crazy...
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07 G35 > TL

I just couldn't wait for 07 to come out..;
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Originally Posted by wilsonzhang2006
I have my heart set on a TL until I saw the pricing on the 07 G35. I don't know about the rest of you, but to me, it's a no-brainer.

07 G35 Journey with Premium package is listed for about $34250, which is $600 less than 06 G35.

07 TL S is around $38500. 07 TL(258 hp) doesn't even compare to 07 G35(306 hp).

The interior of 07 G35 is so much nicer than TL S. Guys, please tell me what I am missing here.

For $4000 less, you get more HP and Japanese-built quality. G is fully assembled in Japan, while TL is in Ohio. I think the exchange rate is the reason they can sell it less than last year. 07G and 07TL-s have very similar standard features.

What gives? What am I missing?
Here's my opinion on what your missing. A comparably equipped (to the TL-S) requires technology, premium and navigation packages which bring the total to $38,150.00. Basically, this is a few hundred dollars less than the TL-S so really not that much of a difference. It really depends on what works for you in choosing between the two.

IMHO, the build quality of Nissan/Infiniti products is not as stable as Honda/Acura. As far as the interior of the G vs. TL is concerned, this is purely subjective open to many opinions. Acura's interior has always been favorably commented on and compared to the likes of Audi and MB.
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tl has a nicer interior only a LIL nicer i m talking aobut the BASE TL ... but the car looks OLDER cause it uses wood trims, the type S has red which a lot of ppl hate

over all G is better i couldn't wait for it or else i would pick G35 > 06 TL lol
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Originally Posted by ggesq
Here's my opinion on what your missing. A comparably equipped (to the TL-S) requires technology, premium and navigation packages which bring the total to $38,150.00. Basically, this is a few hundred dollars less than the TL-S so really not that much of a difference. It really depends on what works for you in choosing between the two.

IMHO, the build quality of Nissan/Infiniti products is not as stable as Honda/Acura. As far as the interior of the G vs. TL is concerned, this is purely subjective open to many opinions. Acura's interior has always been favorably commented on and compared to the likes of Audi and MB.
IMO, the Infiniti's build quality actually feels more sturdy than the current TL.

Sorry to say, but in my opinion 07G35 > 07TLS

I just hope that Acura's redesign of the 4G TL can convince me to buy another Acura.
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Yeah but can you rip a CD to your 9.5gig HD in a TL................no you can't!

If I was to get a raise or possibly get the job I've been interviewing for I WILL get a fully loaded G Coupe
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Originally Posted by lembowski
Yeah but can you rip a CD to your 9.5gig HD in a TL................no you can't!

If I was to get a raise or possibly get the job I've been interviewing for I WILL get a fully loaded G Coupe
The current G coupe or the new one?
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I know its on the new tech package for the 2007 sedan, don't think it is on the 2006
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Before I bought my 06 TL (early Oct)... I was set to buy an 07 G35. Lot's of power, great looks etc. (and I was looking for a 6 speed manual). At that time the TL wasn't even a consideration. Then I started researching... and I began to get some quotes from dealers. My initial reason for getting the TL was price. 06 TL with nav and 6mt was $32300. The 07 G35 was list plus $2000 (with the same basic equipment of the TL was close to $40,000) and there was a waiting list. So for me... the choice was obvious. TL for 32K or G35 for 40K, It just didn't make sense for me.

In retrospect... I'm very very happy that I didn't get a G35. Although I haven't as of yet driven the 07. I have driven an 06 6mt. The 06 feels cramped, the controls are IMO not laid out as well and the TL's much much smoother and quieter.

I'm not saying don't go with the G35... I'm just saying that the TL was the better car for my tastes and budget.

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ps... Car and Driver clocked an 0-60 time of 5.6sec. for an '04 TL 6mt A-Spec. Their best time for a 298 HP '05 G35 6mt was 5.9sec. HP numbers don't always tell the whole story.
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Originally Posted by AcuraTL06
IMO, the Infiniti's build quality actually feels more sturdy than the current TL.

Sorry to say, but in my opinion 07G35 > 07TLS

I just hope that Acura's redesign of the 4G TL can convince me to buy another Acura.
Interesting point. The G35 is a new redesigned model. The 07 TL is a MMC. I am pretty confident that the 4G TL will rock the boat again like it did back in 04
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Originally Posted by vc123
tl has a nicer interior only a LIL nicer i m talking aobut the BASE TL ... but the car looks OLDER cause it uses wood trims, the type S has red which a lot of ppl hate

over all G is better i couldn't wait for it or else i would pick G35 > 06 TL lol
I thought the TL-S does not come with faux wood???
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One of the things I really disliked about the G35 is the fact that you can't input into the Nav while driving.
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Originally Posted by ggesq
Interesting point. The G35 is a new redesigned model. The 07 TL is a MMC. I am pretty confident that the 4G TL will rock the boat again like it did back in 04

Thats what I'm hoping. For me, it was an easy decision between the 06 TL compared to the 06G35.
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ps... Car and Driver clocked an 0-60 time of 5.6sec. for an '04 TL 6mt A-Spec. Their best time for a 298 HP '05 G35 6mt was 5.9sec. HP numbers don't always tell the whole story.
That wasn't their "best" time. They clocked 5.5 seconds on a 280hp one before.... Besides, look at the 07'. Edmunds, (which isn't exactly known for performance oriented testers), managed a 5.6 second 0-60 with an automatic equipped 07' G35. Car and driver got 5.2 with the 6MT. And both of these cars had something like < 200 miles on the odometer.
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Originally Posted by chfields
One of the things I really disliked about the G35 is the fact that you can't input into the Nav while driving.
Easly changed
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Originally Posted by chfields
One of the things I really disliked about the G35 is the fact that you can't input into the Nav while driving.
Every nav system has it's quirks... My G35's nav, I can't input while I drive. But on our TL's nav I can't either. The screen locks up 80% of the time, while using the touch screen, such that I end up having to use the joystick. But in the end, it doens't matter, because I found the Points of Interests in the Acura nav to be a POS, because 99% of the time, what I'm looking for isn't in it, but it is in the G35. (I've had the wife call me to look up a place on my nav, so she can manually enter it in hers) But on the other hand, the Acura Nav is a lot easier to "normally" use. However, the G35's nav is a lot easier to add a new address-book entry. Especially way-points.

So it goes both ways.
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I test drove the 07 G35 yesterday and I must say that it is a TL killer of a package. I tested the G35 S which has the sport package that includes navigation, 18 inchers and firmer suspension. It is the equivalent of the TL-S I would assume.
I was impressed by the interior and the push button starter. The seats were definitely on par with the TL and the dash layout was superb. I loved the electric blue inner circle right outside the kilometer reading. And the dash was highlighted by brushed aluminum trimmings which were very "Acura". The navigation screen was as bright and clear as the TL NAV. I am not really sure if it had the capabilities as I was not able to tinker/use it. It was touch screen though. The steering was thick enough with controls that were different in layout to Acuras but effective.
Upon pushing the starter button, I immediately felt that there was a "beast of an engine lurking" but very composed (I want my next car to have this starter). I noticed the paddle shifters which were a little too lengthy for my taste. They did not turn with the steering wheel. I did not use them as I have not driven a car with paddles. The ride was kinda similar to my TSX as it was firm and I felt all the bumps on the road but well soaked. This was probably because of the firmer suspension in this variant. The sales agent asked me to make a u-turn and the radius was definitely smaller than my TSX.
I warned the agent that I will be testing the cornering capability and lo, I was really awed. It devoured corners so flat and nuetral without any fuss that my TSX with RSB felt less capable in comparison. Compared to the TL that I have driven, it did not feel like a boat at all. The steering was as precise as my TSX if not better.
I have not driven the TL-S but the 306 HP of the G would be a hard act follow. It had gobs of power but very gentile when driven 3/10. Coming from a TSX, I certainly was not accustomed to be pushed back to my seat when accelerating hard. So, when I floored it I had to ease back as I was not used to controlling such power. The sales agent informed that it can do 0-60 in 5.6 secs and high 13's in the quarter...awesome. I believe only the IS 350 can match its surge.
This package amounted to $39,770 which is a bit more expensive than the TL-S. I would not think twice of buying this over the 07 TL. With the TL-S, that remains to be seen.
It is a very compelling package from Nissan! And it will bring loads of cash to Infiniti!
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Originally Posted by avs007
That wasn't their "best" time. They clocked 5.5 seconds on a 280hp one before.... Besides, look at the 07'. Edmunds, (which isn't exactly known for performance oriented testers), managed a 5.6 second 0-60 with an automatic equipped 07' G35. Car and driver got 5.2 with the 6MT.
Point taken. I haven't driven an '07 G35 yet so I can't really say one way or the other. I do like my TL though and don't feel that I settled for a lesser car than the Infiniti, '07 included.
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the G35 is a better car all around than the 07 TL.

there really is no reason to buy a TL over the G35 unless you want to have an acura badge or FWD.
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prices on the G35x

How much would a G35x with navigation set me back ? Anyone getting a small discount on the '07s ?
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07 TL Type S is a waste of money. not worth it. 07 G35, IS350 is worth it. i have test drive both cars. i can't believe Acura over price the 07 TL Type S. maybe if 07 TL Type S had at list 300hp it would be worth it.
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G35x

MSRPs are all on Infiniti's web site. There are a lot of 06 G35s on dealer lots. You can get a really good deal on 06 G35s with $2500 incentive. But even with this kind of incentive, I will still get a 07. To me, 07 G35 is so much better than the 06. There is no doubt in my mind that Infiniti has a huge blockbuster this time.

To me, if you are considering a 07 TL, you should really buy 07 G35 Journey w/ Premium Package. If you want to buy a 07 TL-s, then you should also test drive 07 G35 Journey w/ Premium Package, Navi. 07 TL-s is no match for 07 G35 Sport and it will be an unfair comparison. I like 07 TL, but I can't stand 07 TL-s interior. That red light illumination kills the deal.

Thanks for all your inputs. 07 G35 Journey is what I will get for sure.
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g35 sport + premium FTW

and its not even close
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Ok
I have driven both and ended up buying a type S here is my logic?

1. Interior of the Tl way better quality, the only items I would take from the G are the Steering wheel for its size and feel and the seats (from the g35 s)

2. the Nav in the infiniti is a staep behind the Tl in ergonomics and appearance

3.Overall interior quality, infiniti have cut corners on thinks like door panels etc, controls and the plastic you tend not to think about

4 Design obsolescence, infiniti seem to come out with more radical designs that age quicker and thus for resale can become less appealing, I like the design of the G but it is a little radical.

5 The G has a unbelievable total package feel but I (having driven the Type S for two weeks now) feel that performance wise it will be a close call with the G getting it by possibly 2/10ths...that really was not that important to me. I think the type S is going to suprise a few people when the figures come out!!

6 the G was smaller in width inside that was important to me

7 Finally it came down to the fact that I have totally enjoyed my 05 tl and really have been impressed with the car so why change, the type S is a blast to drive and feel so different to my 05 that it is amazing.

Finally let me add that this is a debate that will not be won, I made my choice and each will make their own based on their own circumstances and requirements, enjoy what ever you choose !!
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That wasn't their "best" time. They clocked 5.5 seconds on a 280hp one before.... Besides, look at the 07'. Edmunds, (which isn't exactly known for performance oriented testers), managed a 5.6 second 0-60 with an automatic equipped 07' G35. Car and driver got 5.2 with the 6MT. And both of these cars had something like < 200 miles on the odometer.
Yea, once the G35 breaks in I bet it will be able to do 4.9sec 0-60 and 13.7 in the 1/4th mile. That car is fast. I am going to a dealer tomorrow to take some picture and test drive the G35. Can't wait.
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Hate to ruin all your fun, but Im tired of G35 comparison threads.

Go to Off Topic......Car Talk and do it there. It makes no difference to me now that they're 07's.

Its the same taste great, less filling debate.
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You know what? screw it, Ill make this the official 07 G35 comparison thread.

Knock yourself out...
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Originally Posted by trancemission
You know what? screw it, Ill make this the official 07 G35 comparison thread.

Knock yourself out...

Yup they can go buy what they, want this could go on for eternity
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So how many pages do you think this will get up too?
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So how many pages do you think this will get up too?
probably as many pages as the '09 TL thread.
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'07 G35 sedan > '07 TL-S
'09 TL (probably) > '09 G35 sedan

Unless you buy a new car every few years, the car you purchase now will be outdated/outmatched by the competition within a few years.

If I had to buy either right now, I'd definately go for the '07 G35 sedan (6MT of course!). Two years ago, it was a no brainer: TL 6MT.
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Originally Posted by simont53
Ok
I have driven both and ended up buying a type S here is my logic?

1. Interior of the Tl way better quality, the only items I would take from the G are the Steering wheel for its size and feel and the seats (from the g35 s)

2. the Nav in the infiniti is a staep behind the Tl in ergonomics and appearance

3.Overall interior quality, infiniti have cut corners on thinks like door panels etc, controls and the plastic you tend not to think about

4 Design obsolescence, infiniti seem to come out with more radical designs that age quicker and thus for resale can become less appealing, I like the design of the G but it is a little radical.

5 The G has a unbelievable total package feel but I (having driven the Type S for two weeks now) feel that performance wise it will be a close call with the G getting it by possibly 2/10ths...that really was not that important to me. I think the type S is going to suprise a few people when the figures come out!!

6 the G was smaller in width inside that was important to me

7 Finally it came down to the fact that I have totally enjoyed my 05 tl and really have been impressed with the car so why change, the type S is a blast to drive and feel so different to my 05 that it is amazing.

Finally let me add that this is a debate that will not be won, I made my choice and each will make their own based on their own circumstances and requirements, enjoy what ever you choose !!
The trunk-mounted CD-changer on the '07 G35 could make it difficult/impossible to load some items because the housing is kinda big/elaborate.

edit - It's only a problem if you get the navi.
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I agree with SimonT, I too had the chance for extensive test drives of both the new G35 Sport and the TL-S, ended up buying the TL-S. I think that the G35 is a going to be a great car for some people. It's great to have so many good choices (335i, IS350, G35, TL) in the price range.

For me, the TL-S was more of the package that I was looking for. Larger car than my ex-330i, comfortable enough for daily driving, loads of technological toys, quality interior, some sport elements.

While the G35 is a great improvement over the previous gen G35 in terms of refinement and the interior. However, I think the interior was still not quite up to par with the TL and others. Lots of hard, thin plastics are still used throughout the interior. Dampfnudel, I also noticed the trunk opening and how the CD changer cuts into it.

Competition keeps people on their toes, TL-S got my money this time. Who knows next?
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Warren Brown reviewed the 07 G35 a few weeks ago in his weekly column. Here's the link for his "Nuts and Bolts" part of the article.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...100600502.html

Go to washingtionpost.com and search for his name if you want to read all of it however I'll warn you that it contains a lot of irrelevant information that has nothing to do with the car.

I considered the G35 as well but the deal breaker was the looks of the sedan. I need the four doors. The sedan is just plain, no style, nothing compared to the TL. The coupe on the other hand is downright sexy looking. I'm amazed at the difference between the G35 coupe and sedan side by side. They don't look like the same car at all.
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Does the 07 G's have Nav traffic too? I know 07 G's have a way better interior than the old models... But I would wait for the 07 G Coupe before i decide on which one to get...just my


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