Client Relations Fail
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Client Relations Fail
I have been trying to report all of the bugs since the 1.0.7 update to Client Relations. I have lost functionality of the infotainment system to the point that the iPhone interface doesn't work correctly. I can no longer LEGALLY use my iPhone in my car according to the California Vehicle Code. I have a trouble ticket number and have been trying to talk to the Client Relations case worker. After being promised 4 times that I was going to receive a return call, I have yet to talk to "Amier". Client Relations has failed to contact me. I'm sorry to report to all the fanboys out there that Honda America is NOT interested in fixing our cars. This is such a sad state of affairs. I love the way the car drives. However, it is obvious the don't give a sh*t about customer loyalty or getting our cars fixed.
#3
This lack of concern by Acura is what made me finally get rid of my 2014 RDX (transmission shudder) and buy a 2018 BMW X3. One year later and it has been flawless! This was after buying 5 Hondas over a 30 year period. Honda/Acura simply don't make them like they use to. This is really sad. I feel for all of you folks. The car is attractive what Acura is doing is not acceptable.
Sorry,
Mike
Sorry,
Mike
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Havasubum (01-07-2019)
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I have been trying to report all of the bugs since the 1.0.7 update to Client Relations. I have lost functionality of the infotainment system to the point that the iPhone interface doesn't work correctly. I can no longer LEGALLY use my iPhone in my car according to the California Vehicle Code. I have a trouble ticket number and have been trying to talk to the Client Relations case worker. After being promised 4 times that I was going to receive a return call, I have yet to talk to "Amier". Client Relations has failed to contact me. I'm sorry to report to all the fanboys out there that Honda America is NOT interested in fixing our cars. This is such a sad state of affairs. I love the way the car drives. However, it is obvious the don't give a sh*t about customer loyalty or getting our cars fixed.
#6
Thank you for the information. However, I don't think it's the owner's responsibility to make repairs.
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Your comment is debatable but it you are offered a solution which would potentially fix your problem - why wouldn't you try it? Whether you fix it or the dealer does - so long as it alleviated your issue - what difference does it make? Especially is a scenario where everything is in your own hands (meaning you can do it on your own time) vs. having to deal with client relations and / or a dealer? It's your vehicle so you can do as you see fit but for me I would definitely try it - my $0.02
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Havasubum -
As I said above - it's your vehicle and you can do as you see fit. Rereading you earlier posts, it seems you are more interested in having someone fix your car for you vs. getting it fixed. Yes - I understand it's under the new car warranty - I get that.
That aside what you had done to your vehicle is not the same as what Catman70 suggested and while you might think doing one is the same as doing the other - with all the electronics in the newer cars differing procedures may very well result in different outcomes. The 3G RDX is as you know, new, so the "playbook" is at best new and is still being written based what shows up in the service departments and reported and documented to American Honda / Acura. Level of expertise or skill level of the tech(s) that have worked on your vehicle will vary from dealer to dealer and even day to day based on availability at the same dealer.
I personally have the mechanical ability and willingness to try and fix my vehicles on my own first - so long as it's not going to cost me $$ out of pocket - i.e. parts. After that it's off to the dealer or off to my mechanic - who is a Sr. Tech at a local Honda dealer.
Again - it's your vehicle and you can do as you see fit.
As I said above - it's your vehicle and you can do as you see fit. Rereading you earlier posts, it seems you are more interested in having someone fix your car for you vs. getting it fixed. Yes - I understand it's under the new car warranty - I get that.
That aside what you had done to your vehicle is not the same as what Catman70 suggested and while you might think doing one is the same as doing the other - with all the electronics in the newer cars differing procedures may very well result in different outcomes. The 3G RDX is as you know, new, so the "playbook" is at best new and is still being written based what shows up in the service departments and reported and documented to American Honda / Acura. Level of expertise or skill level of the tech(s) that have worked on your vehicle will vary from dealer to dealer and even day to day based on availability at the same dealer.
I personally have the mechanical ability and willingness to try and fix my vehicles on my own first - so long as it's not going to cost me $$ out of pocket - i.e. parts. After that it's off to the dealer or off to my mechanic - who is a Sr. Tech at a local Honda dealer.
Again - it's your vehicle and you can do as you see fit.
#11
I am also ready to try the lemon law. Continuing problems with the infotainment system now becoming nearly unusable to play my USB music files, the dash “blacking” out and now nearly 20 trips to the dealer to try to fix misc problems has me at my limit. The Acura regionals refuse to meet with customers but I am assured that they will attend a lemon law hearing to defend Honda, great customer service huh?? The customer service line is also pretty useless, hard to get a call back if ever. I’m interested to know anyone’s actual experience when filing a lemon law case.
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Just saw this - https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-rdx-...solved-976258/
You may want to subscribe to see if the OP gives any further explanation.
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#13
customer service acura/release/beware
I had previously posted about my new 2019 RDX being in the shop 32 days after the infotainment system was turning on and off.....after replacing the infotainment screen itself and re loading software, it seems to be working at this point, although the car has only been driven about 200 miles since coming out of the shop. I had previously filed a lemon law complaint with acura and the state of maryland in order to protect the time limitations, and establish a paper trail if in fact my car could not be fixed..... and as a result was transferred from customer service to mediation. I received a call from a "mediator" confirming the car was now working properly....which I confirmed.....at least at this time it is working properly. He then advised me that I would hear from their customer service to discuss previously talked about reparations for my car being in the shop, a week after I bought it...for a month. I spoke to the customer service rep...and she advised me we could agree on me being reimbursed a month of car payment...489.00....but that I would have to sign a release. She assured me the release was harmless, and only dealt with the infotainment system. I am an attorney, and after receiving a general release via fed ex from american honda,, I called her back and advised I would not sign it....and never have heard back since....not a word.
The release states that I would agree to release american honda from "any and all claims rising out of the following conditions alleged to exist or have existed regarding my 2019 rdx.....INFOTAINMENT DISPLAY REBOOTING..... paragraph 3 then says in relevant part; "consumer and american honda expressly acknowledge that this agreement is intended to include in its effect, without limitation, all claims which consumer and ahm do not know or suspect to exist in their favor at the time of execution hereof, and that this agreement contemplates the extinguishment of such claim or claims."
So for 489.00, they want me to release them from any further known or unknown issues with my infotainment system, even if it crashes again.....and then they want a general release for claims I may know about or do not know about..... although they state the original warranty stays intact......?
It would seem to me as a customer of Acura for over 20 years, that you send me the $489.00 in good faith, after everything I went through for over a month.....when their car clearly had a defect.....and call it a day. I should not have to sign a release, which as far as I am concerned as a trained attorney contradicts itself in its stated purpose, and which was in my opinion, not presented in good faith, for a problem both they and I do not know at this point, is truly fixed, or could not occur again. Although one could argue the release may not be a general release in the true sense of the word, who would take a chance for $489.00 dollars that should I have future issues, I would be barred from making a claim against american honda, or at least arguably barred?
I am more than disappointed with american honda/acura and plan on taking my business elsewhere in the future. Not a way to deal with loyal customers!!!!!!!
The release states that I would agree to release american honda from "any and all claims rising out of the following conditions alleged to exist or have existed regarding my 2019 rdx.....INFOTAINMENT DISPLAY REBOOTING..... paragraph 3 then says in relevant part; "consumer and american honda expressly acknowledge that this agreement is intended to include in its effect, without limitation, all claims which consumer and ahm do not know or suspect to exist in their favor at the time of execution hereof, and that this agreement contemplates the extinguishment of such claim or claims."
So for 489.00, they want me to release them from any further known or unknown issues with my infotainment system, even if it crashes again.....and then they want a general release for claims I may know about or do not know about..... although they state the original warranty stays intact......?
It would seem to me as a customer of Acura for over 20 years, that you send me the $489.00 in good faith, after everything I went through for over a month.....when their car clearly had a defect.....and call it a day. I should not have to sign a release, which as far as I am concerned as a trained attorney contradicts itself in its stated purpose, and which was in my opinion, not presented in good faith, for a problem both they and I do not know at this point, is truly fixed, or could not occur again. Although one could argue the release may not be a general release in the true sense of the word, who would take a chance for $489.00 dollars that should I have future issues, I would be barred from making a claim against american honda, or at least arguably barred?
I am more than disappointed with american honda/acura and plan on taking my business elsewhere in the future. Not a way to deal with loyal customers!!!!!!!
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I had previously posted about my new 2019 RDX being in the shop 32 days after the infotainment system was turning on and off.....after replacing the infotainment screen itself and re loading software, it seems to be working at this point, although the car has only been driven about 200 miles since coming out of the shop. I had previously filed a lemon law complaint with acura and the state of maryland in order to protect the time limitations, and establish a paper trail if in fact my car could not be fixed..... and as a result was transferred from customer service to mediation. I received a call from a "mediator" confirming the car was now working properly....which I confirmed.....at least at this time it is working properly. He then advised me that I would hear from their customer service to discuss previously talked about reparations for my car being in the shop, a week after I bought it...for a month. I spoke to the customer service rep...and she advised me we could agree on me being reimbursed a month of car payment...489.00....but that I would have to sign a release. She assured me the release was harmless, and only dealt with the infotainment system. I am an attorney, and after receiving a general release via fed ex from american honda,, I called her back and advised I would not sign it....and never have heard back since....not a word.
The release states that I would agree to release american honda from "any and all claims rising out of the following conditions alleged to exist or have existed regarding my 2019 rdx.....INFOTAINMENT DISPLAY REBOOTING..... paragraph 3 then says in relevant part; "consumer and american honda expressly acknowledge that this agreement is intended to include in its effect, without limitation, all claims which consumer and ahm do not know or suspect to exist in their favor at the time of execution hereof, and that this agreement contemplates the extinguishment of such claim or claims."
So for 489.00, they want me to release them from any further known or unknown issues with my infotainment system, even if it crashes again.....and then they want a general release for claims I may know about or do not know about..... although they state the original warranty stays intact......?
It would seem to me as a customer of Acura for over 20 years, that you send me the $489.00 in good faith, after everything I went through for over a month.....when their car clearly had a defect.....and call it a day. I should not have to sign a release, which as far as I am concerned as a trained attorney contradicts itself in its stated purpose, and which was in my opinion, not presented in good faith, for a problem both they and I do not know at this point, is truly fixed, or could not occur again. Although one could argue the release may not be a general release in the true sense of the word, who would take a chance for $489.00 dollars that should I have future issues, I would be barred from making a claim against american honda, or at least arguably barred?
I am more than disappointed with american honda/acura and plan on taking my business elsewhere in the future. Not a way to deal with loyal customers!!!!!!!
The release states that I would agree to release american honda from "any and all claims rising out of the following conditions alleged to exist or have existed regarding my 2019 rdx.....INFOTAINMENT DISPLAY REBOOTING..... paragraph 3 then says in relevant part; "consumer and american honda expressly acknowledge that this agreement is intended to include in its effect, without limitation, all claims which consumer and ahm do not know or suspect to exist in their favor at the time of execution hereof, and that this agreement contemplates the extinguishment of such claim or claims."
So for 489.00, they want me to release them from any further known or unknown issues with my infotainment system, even if it crashes again.....and then they want a general release for claims I may know about or do not know about..... although they state the original warranty stays intact......?
It would seem to me as a customer of Acura for over 20 years, that you send me the $489.00 in good faith, after everything I went through for over a month.....when their car clearly had a defect.....and call it a day. I should not have to sign a release, which as far as I am concerned as a trained attorney contradicts itself in its stated purpose, and which was in my opinion, not presented in good faith, for a problem both they and I do not know at this point, is truly fixed, or could not occur again. Although one could argue the release may not be a general release in the true sense of the word, who would take a chance for $489.00 dollars that should I have future issues, I would be barred from making a claim against american honda, or at least arguably barred?
I am more than disappointed with american honda/acura and plan on taking my business elsewhere in the future. Not a way to deal with loyal customers!!!!!!!
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Havasubum (01-14-2019)
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I had previously posted about my new 2019 RDX being in the shop 32 days after the infotainment system was turning on and off.....after replacing the infotainment screen itself and re loading software, it seems to be working at this point, although the car has only been driven about 200 miles since coming out of the shop. I had previously filed a lemon law complaint with acura and the state of maryland in order to protect the time limitations, and establish a paper trail if in fact my car could not be fixed..... and as a result was transferred from customer service to mediation. I received a call from a "mediator" confirming the car was now working properly....which I confirmed.....at least at this time it is working properly. He then advised me that I would hear from their customer service to discuss previously talked about reparations for my car being in the shop, a week after I bought it...for a month. I spoke to the customer service rep...and she advised me we could agree on me being reimbursed a month of car payment...489.00....but that I would have to sign a release. She assured me the release was harmless, and only dealt with the infotainment system. I am an attorney, and after receiving a general release via fed ex from american honda,, I called her back and advised I would not sign it....and never have heard back since....not a word.
The release states that I would agree to release american honda from "any and all claims rising out of the following conditions alleged to exist or have existed regarding my 2019 rdx.....INFOTAINMENT DISPLAY REBOOTING..... paragraph 3 then says in relevant part; "consumer and american honda expressly acknowledge that this agreement is intended to include in its effect, without limitation, all claims which consumer and ahm do not know or suspect to exist in their favor at the time of execution hereof, and that this agreement contemplates the extinguishment of such claim or claims."
So for 489.00, they want me to release them from any further known or unknown issues with my infotainment system, even if it crashes again.....and then they want a general release for claims I may know about or do not know about..... although they state the original warranty stays intact......?
It would seem to me as a customer of Acura for over 20 years, that you send me the $489.00 in good faith, after everything I went through for over a month.....when their car clearly had a defect.....and call it a day. I should not have to sign a release, which as far as I am concerned as a trained attorney contradicts itself in its stated purpose, and which was in my opinion, not presented in good faith, for a problem both they and I do not know at this point, is truly fixed, or could not occur again. Although one could argue the release may not be a general release in the true sense of the word, who would take a chance for $489.00 dollars that should I have future issues, I would be barred from making a claim against american honda, or at least arguably barred?
I am more than disappointed with american honda/acura and plan on taking my business elsewhere in the future. Not a way to deal with loyal customers!!!!!!!
The release states that I would agree to release american honda from "any and all claims rising out of the following conditions alleged to exist or have existed regarding my 2019 rdx.....INFOTAINMENT DISPLAY REBOOTING..... paragraph 3 then says in relevant part; "consumer and american honda expressly acknowledge that this agreement is intended to include in its effect, without limitation, all claims which consumer and ahm do not know or suspect to exist in their favor at the time of execution hereof, and that this agreement contemplates the extinguishment of such claim or claims."
So for 489.00, they want me to release them from any further known or unknown issues with my infotainment system, even if it crashes again.....and then they want a general release for claims I may know about or do not know about..... although they state the original warranty stays intact......?
It would seem to me as a customer of Acura for over 20 years, that you send me the $489.00 in good faith, after everything I went through for over a month.....when their car clearly had a defect.....and call it a day. I should not have to sign a release, which as far as I am concerned as a trained attorney contradicts itself in its stated purpose, and which was in my opinion, not presented in good faith, for a problem both they and I do not know at this point, is truly fixed, or could not occur again. Although one could argue the release may not be a general release in the true sense of the word, who would take a chance for $489.00 dollars that should I have future issues, I would be barred from making a claim against american honda, or at least arguably barred?
I am more than disappointed with american honda/acura and plan on taking my business elsewhere in the future. Not a way to deal with loyal customers!!!!!!!
#17
When in doubt, reboot. That's the motto in IT but should not be when my life and safety is dependent upon it
#18
Drifting
There is an option in the user settings: Factory Data Reset. Per the on-screen description: "This will restore all system settings to their default values and erase all personal data."
Owner's Manual, page 354
There is also an option in the diagnostic menus to reboot the system and restore parameters to factory defaults.
The former is intended as an end-user option, and should be benign. If not, it's on Acura for providing the option.
The latter is NOT intended as an end-user option, but that doesn't mean I didn't do it anyway...
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I had previously posted about my new 2019 RDX being in the shop 32 days after the infotainment system was turning on and off.....after replacing the infotainment screen itself and re loading software, it seems to be working at this point, although the car has only been driven about 200 miles since coming out of the shop. I had previously filed a lemon law complaint with acura and the state of maryland in order to protect the time limitations, and establish a paper trail if in fact my car could not be fixed..... and as a result was transferred from customer service to mediation. I received a call from a "mediator" confirming the car was now working properly....which I confirmed.....at least at this time it is working properly. He then advised me that I would hear from their customer service to discuss previously talked about reparations for my car being in the shop, a week after I bought it...for a month. I spoke to the customer service rep...and she advised me we could agree on me being reimbursed a month of car payment...489.00....but that I would have to sign a release. She assured me the release was harmless, and only dealt with the infotainment system. I am an attorney, and after receiving a general release via fed ex from american honda,, I called her back and advised I would not sign it....and never have heard back since....not a word.
The release states that I would agree to release american honda from "any and all claims rising out of the following conditions alleged to exist or have existed regarding my 2019 rdx.....INFOTAINMENT DISPLAY REBOOTING..... paragraph 3 then says in relevant part; "consumer and american honda expressly acknowledge that this agreement is intended to include in its effect, without limitation, all claims which consumer and ahm do not know or suspect to exist in their favor at the time of execution hereof, and that this agreement contemplates the extinguishment of such claim or claims."
So for 489.00, they want me to release them from any further known or unknown issues with my infotainment system, even if it crashes again.....and then they want a general release for claims I may know about or do not know about..... although they state the original warranty stays intact......?
It would seem to me as a customer of Acura for over 20 years, that you send me the $489.00 in good faith, after everything I went through for over a month.....when their car clearly had a defect.....and call it a day. I should not have to sign a release, which as far as I am concerned as a trained attorney contradicts itself in its stated purpose, and which was in my opinion, not presented in good faith, for a problem both they and I do not know at this point, is truly fixed, or could not occur again. Although one could argue the release may not be a general release in the true sense of the word, who would take a chance for $489.00 dollars that should I have future issues, I would be barred from making a claim against american honda, or at least arguably barred?
I am more than disappointed with american honda/acura and plan on taking my business elsewhere in the future. Not a way to deal with loyal customers!!!!!!!
The release states that I would agree to release american honda from "any and all claims rising out of the following conditions alleged to exist or have existed regarding my 2019 rdx.....INFOTAINMENT DISPLAY REBOOTING..... paragraph 3 then says in relevant part; "consumer and american honda expressly acknowledge that this agreement is intended to include in its effect, without limitation, all claims which consumer and ahm do not know or suspect to exist in their favor at the time of execution hereof, and that this agreement contemplates the extinguishment of such claim or claims."
So for 489.00, they want me to release them from any further known or unknown issues with my infotainment system, even if it crashes again.....and then they want a general release for claims I may know about or do not know about..... although they state the original warranty stays intact......?
It would seem to me as a customer of Acura for over 20 years, that you send me the $489.00 in good faith, after everything I went through for over a month.....when their car clearly had a defect.....and call it a day. I should not have to sign a release, which as far as I am concerned as a trained attorney contradicts itself in its stated purpose, and which was in my opinion, not presented in good faith, for a problem both they and I do not know at this point, is truly fixed, or could not occur again. Although one could argue the release may not be a general release in the true sense of the word, who would take a chance for $489.00 dollars that should I have future issues, I would be barred from making a claim against american honda, or at least arguably barred?
I am more than disappointed with american honda/acura and plan on taking my business elsewhere in the future. Not a way to deal with loyal customers!!!!!!!
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