The term 'turbo lag' exists for a reason. That and the statement about the B58, it's not even worth the time getting into it.

 

A number of us have taken the gen3 to drag strips. Mine managed 15.3 @ 93 mph which is almost identical to the C&D panel above. Where the gen 3 loses badly is the first 60 feet because of the aforementioned torque management. Off the line there is a pronounced lag for an instant while the ecm allows just a drizzle of power. Then it kicks in with a vengeance.....but its too late. A 60' time of 2.6 seconds is what one would expect from a '70s station wagon with base engine and carburetor. Quite simply this is "patient zero" for anyone not happy with acceleration numbers of the gen 3.

 

Here is a list of items which do nothing to improve 0-60 or quarter mile times on stock gen 3. FWIW.

Use of paddle shifters instead of just letting the ecm pick shift points.
Holding the brake and (trying to) build boost before launch.
Use of any drive mode other than the default "Sport".
Use of "S" mode on the transmission instead of "D".

 

Tell that to my NA V6 Passport. It is a dog out of the hole. A decent turbo has very little noticeable spool up time. NA engines in main stream vehicles are headed the way of the dinosaur.

 

Oh,oh...the King has spoken. Say no more.

 

Your Passport has the shit ZF9 transmission. It’s not the engine.

 

You paint with words so very well and are quite the verbal artist.

 

I think you mean literary since verbal is spoken.

 

I don’t question that your Passport is slow off the line. But based on published road tests, I have to wonder if your Passport has problems. In this C&D test, the V6 Passport needed only 2.1s to reach 30. The RDX needed 2.4s. The Passport launched MUCH harder off the line than the RDX. And the Passport’s rolling 5-60 time was 6.1s versus 7.0s for the RDX. The entire point of the 5-60 time is to reflect low-rpm power. Both your Passport’s 9AT and the RDX’s 10AT have super-short 1st gears. What you observe about your Passport does not seem right.

 

Whatever, you got the point. Tone yourself down a bit.

 

Thanks for the info. The number don't lie. The RDX just feels quicker off the line than does my 2021 Passport. I don't believe there is anything wrong with it. It accelerates the same as my other 2021 Passport I sold before buying the RDX.

 

May I ask you a question? Based on the "Colo" in your name ColoRDX, are you located in Colorado? If yes, are you at higher elevation? I'm suspect you know where I am going with this thought.

 

For all of you looking for a true 0-60 beast, I present my 2006 LR3:

V6 SE All-wheel Drive
216 Hp, 269 Lb-Ft., 5787lbs Weight 0-60 10.7 sec.

I believe merging on to a freeway, passing someone, etc., flooring the accelerator accomplished pretty much nothing....a fair amount of engine noise, but you didn't really go much faster. You had to really plan well when passing on a 2 lane road because you needed a whole lot of clear lane space ahead.

 

Yep. 31 years in Colorado and I understand the elevation/performance factor. Spent a week with each of my Passports at basically sea level in Washington state and I can't say I could really feel any acceleration performance difference. I'm sure there was but, not really noticeable. What I did notice at sea level was the drop in gas mileage by 3-4 mpg's. When I returned to 4,000' or higher, the mpg's increased. A turbo on the Honda V6 would be nice but, I think Honda is going to dump the V6 before too long. Even (stuck in the technology past) Toyota is starting to move away from NA engines.

 

You must be new to the Internet . Well, in that case I apologize for offending your very sensitive ears (or your eyes, as the case may be). Perhaps you would like me to send you some flowers or chocolates?

 

I don't hear the description" LR3" tossed around much I had to look it up.
How/why did you come to own one?

 

Not really new. Been around for a little while and a member of multiple forums. All of which would have banned your foul mouth by now. Where is a moderator when you need one?
Or.......maybe you are the moderator and your mouth is immune. Instead of the flowers and chocolates, how about you just trying to be a nice polite young man from here on out. You can do it

 

Lol banned for a “foul mouth?” Somehow I doubt that. And look, I never insulted you. I just said the ZF9 is shit, which most people would agree with. Actually that’s probably being a little too kind to it.

 

We lived in Vegas (which we again do) and had a death in the family. Needed to drive into Utah in the middle of winter and only had rear wheel drive cars....so went AWD-SUV shopping.The LR3 was a demo, great price (39K), one of about 3 the LR dealer had, and the only one with a V6. This was when Ford owned LR, and that V6 was right out of the Explorers. Probably a fine engine in the Explorer, but as you can see in that 0-60 stat, the LR3's were substantially heavier. I did not adequately test drive it, and was not quite 'tuned in' to how gutless the thing was. Outside of that, had terrible, ponderous handling and poor gas mileage (even for a V6) it turned out to be an anti-Land Rover, in that it was very reliable. We drove it for about 15 years (105,000 miles)... just recently selling it....right before the price of used vehicles exploded, of course. Man, was that thing gutless though...

 

As far as internal combustion engines are concerned, positive displacement supercharged V8's have instant throttle response. Everything else pales in comparison.