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Old Oct 14, 2019 | 05:55 PM
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I'm at 10,500 miles and the oil life is showing 40% and a code of B 6. Does this mean that there will be no tire rotation at this service since 1 should have also shown up?

My first service was an A 1.


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Old Oct 14, 2019 | 07:46 PM
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Thats what it is. Doesn’t mean you have to agree. Get a tread depth gauge. If you rotated at the first service, and the miles are about equal, you might have only equalized the wear. If all the tires have the same tread depth, there is little to be gained.

You can pick up a gauge at an auto parts store for less than $5, or use a quarter.
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Old Oct 14, 2019 | 08:43 PM
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Normally all the "maintenance sub items" will only appear on the MID next to one of the "main items" such as A (oil change) or B (oil and filter change).

This is to prevent someone from coming in for an oil change and then the next day they get a reminder to replace the transmission fluid.

These codes should NOT appear on the mid until the oil life is 15% or lower.

So if you have the B6 warning with 40% oil life still remaining, I think you may have a problem with your RDX.

If you really want a tire rotation, you can always ask for one since you are paying for this service if you returning to the dealer to get it done.

Perhaps you think that it is mandatory to return to the dealer for these recommended service items. This is my second RDX and I always get my oil changes at a quicky lube place. I only return to the dealer for items listed as "replace", except for the air filters which I do myself. Anything listed as "inspect" I do myself.

Up here in the north part of North America, many of us perform tire rotations twice a year when we do the change-over from summer to winter tires and then back again.
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Old Oct 14, 2019 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RDX-Rick
These codes should NOT appear on the mid until the oil life is 15% or lower.

So if you have the B6 warning with 40% oil life still remaining, I think you may have a problem with your RDX.
It's not really a warning, just seems to be informing what's coming up.

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Old Oct 14, 2019 | 10:51 PM
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This MM seems to work a little differently than past Honda/Acura MMs I have seen. It seems to showing pending service intervals that it expects to be due at the next oil change, long before the service is actually due. For instance, the "6" rear differential fluid change that should be performed at about 15k miles. Past MMs only showed codes for pending "services due" when the remaining oil life got to 15% and it started pestering for service.

So the "1" tire rotation may still pop up before the next service is due.

I hope the quick lube places north of the border are less fraudulent than the ones south of the border. Many Honda dealers have "express" drive-in oil change service that is price competitive with any of the quick lube places and they are far less likely to take the unsuspecting vehicle owner for "a ride", in my experience. If it's too darn cold in my garage to DIY, that's where I go. Or the Acura dealer if I just want to say "Hi" and grab some free coffee and cookies.

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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 07:46 AM
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I never take it to a quick lube place, here, they are expensive and sloppy. I either use the dealer, or an owner operated garage.
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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by anoop
It's not really a warning, just seems to be informing what's coming up.
Thanks for posting the image. I may have just glanced right over it, but I don't recall seeing that on my 2020 RDX until I reached the 15% alerting point. I know for sure that nothing was there on my 2016 RDX prior to the 15% warning.

I just had my first oil change last week (A1 service), so my mid is currently showing 100% life, but I never noticed the "0" below the oil life before. I will be sure to to watch this more closely now that I have seen your photo. I think it would be helpful to know what work is required in the near future so that you can purchase the material if you are a DIY'er, or to budget for more expensive services.

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Old Nov 18, 2019 | 07:56 PM
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OK, as I got closer, like 30% oil life, the "1" showed up, so now it says "B 1 6". I'm now at 20% life and I'm taking it in tomorrow morning.

How much did you folks pay for your second service?
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Old Nov 18, 2019 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by anoop
OK, as I got closer, like 30% oil life, the "1" showed up, so now it says "B 1 6". I'm now at 20% life and I'm taking it in tomorrow morning.

How much did you folks pay for your second service?
B16 showed up for me exactly the same way. I am also at 30%. There is an existing thread for B16 service with some prices.
https://acurazine.com/forums/third-g...st-fyi-978297/
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Old Nov 19, 2019 | 10:56 AM
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B16 showed up for me exactly the same way. I am also at 30%. There is an existing thread for B16 service with some prices.
https://acurazine.com/forums/third-g...st-fyi-978297/
I also posted a tutorial for how to change the rear differential fluid - part of the B16 service. It's a costly service that is very cheap and easy to DIY. Took me 15-20 minutes.
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Old Nov 19, 2019 | 01:12 PM
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I was quoted $182 without any discounts for the B 1 6.

How often does the air cleaner element and dust and pollen filter get replaced under normal use? It looks like in dusty conditions they recommend it be done every 15,000 miles. Is it worth replacing sooner rather than later (esp the dust and pollen filter)?
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Old Nov 19, 2019 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by anoop
I was quoted $182 without any discounts for the B 1 6.

How often does the air cleaner element and dust and pollen filter get replaced under normal use? It looks like in dusty conditions they recommend it be done every 15,000 miles. Is it worth replacing sooner rather than later (esp the dust and pollen filter)?
I was also quoted the same rate.
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Old Nov 19, 2019 | 04:16 PM
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Just had the B16 service done 11/11/19. The MM came on during a 1,700 mile trip to Myrtle Beach from Connecticut. The dealer charge me $163 for the differential fluid change, oil and filter change and tire rotation. I think its a fair price and my days of laying under a car to drain and refill fluids are over. I routinely check the oil level on the RDX and its been at the full line since the day I took delivery. A week after the B16 service I checked the oil level and it was barely at the minimum line on the dipstick. I was "pissed" and called the service department. They sent a tech to my house with the missing oil. I told the service manager I lost a lot of trust in his operation and would be hesitant to have future service performed there. He is new and assured me he was hired to clean house and restore the department to a customer focused and trustworthy organization. Time will tell. Oh, and on the 1,700 mile round trip to Myrtle Beach the RDX averaged 28.6 MPG with about 70% of the drive on cruise control at 74 miles per hour. Not bad in my opinion for the performance.
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Old Nov 19, 2019 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mrblase
A week after the B16 service I checked the oil level and it was barely at the minimum line on the dipstick.
I have never checked the oil level...perhaps I should start doing so. If it gets too low, is there a warning light? Hopefully it's not too late by then.
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Old Nov 19, 2019 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by mrblase
I routinely check the oil level on the RDX and its been at the full line since the day I took delivery. A week after the B16 service I checked the oil level and it was barely at the minimum line on the dipstick.
If it was me, now I would be wondering if they filled the differential properly.
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Old Nov 19, 2019 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by anoop
OK, as I got closer, like 30% oil life, the "1" showed up, so now it says "B 1 6". I'm now at 20% life and I'm taking it in tomorrow morning.

How much did you folks pay for your second service?
I went with a maintenance plan on mine so I wouldn't have to worry about this until I exceed 60k miles...
Not exactly sure if I saved any money, but I bought peace of mind, and that has a lot of value to me.
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Old Nov 19, 2019 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuzz
I went with a maintenance plan on mine so I wouldn't have to worry about this until I exceed 60k miles...
Not exactly sure if I saved any money, but I bought peace of mind, and that has a lot of value to me.
How much did you pay for it? My guess is that it will probably be a wash. BMW's maintenance was awesome when it covered brakes.
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Old Nov 19, 2019 | 08:13 PM
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How much did you pay for it? My guess is that it will probably be a wash. BMW's maintenance was awesome when it covered brakes.
I paid $855 for a 4 year, 60k mile maintenance plan. I detailed my purchase in the 2020 RDX prices paid thread.
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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 06:04 PM
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I paid $855 for a 4 year, 60k mile maintenance plan. I detailed my purchase in the 2020 RDX prices paid thread.
That actually looks like a pretty good deal for dealer service.
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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 06:30 PM
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Does 60k include transmission fluid change? it will be 2 rear diff changes and 2 brake fluids.
oil, filter and tire rotations is all DIY for me.
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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by russianDude
Does 60k include transmission fluid change? it will be 2 rear diff changes and 2 brake fluids.
oil, filter and tire rotations is all DIY for me.
The rear diff was changed at 12.5K miles (but I did the service early) -- in 60K I will probably see 4 of them. How did you get 2?
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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by anoop
The rear diff was changed at 12.5K miles (but I did the service early) -- in 60K I will probably see 4 of them. How did you get 2?
Rear differential is changed first at around ~15K miles, and then its changed every ~30K miles or so. So your typical schedule is 15K, 45K, 75K, and etc. Meaning that you will get one more at around 45K.
If you lucky, transmission and transfer fluid will come up before 60K, but might come up later.
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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 07:17 PM
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Rear differential is changed first at around ~15K miles, and then its changed every ~30K miles or so. So your typical schedule is 15K, 45K, 75K, and etc. Meaning that you will get one more at around 45K.
If you lucky, transmission and transfer fluid will come up before 60K, but might come up later.
OK, thanks. Is there a detail schedule of services available somewhere?
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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by anoop
The rear diff was changed at 12.5K miles (but I did the service early) -- in 60K I will probably see 4 of them. How did you get 2?
wow. you are at 10K miles with 40% life left and still on original oil? thats very strange, I drive mostly highway and already at 80% with 2K miles
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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by russianDude
wow. you are at 10K miles with 40% life left and still on original oil? thats very strange, I drive mostly highway and already at 80% with 2K miles
I'm totally confused. I did my second service at 12.5K with 20% oil life.

Edit: I see the confusion. I was at 40% at 10.5K miles after my first service. I had the first service (A 1) at around 6K miles.

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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by anoop
OK, thanks. Is there a detail schedule of services available somewhere?

Have not seen it based on miles, its mostly based on MID, but with my 1st gen RDX I've seen transmission fluid come up every 60-70K miles, not sure if the frequency if different for 3rd gen.
And rear differential is every 30K miles (after initial 15K).
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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 07:50 PM
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Did my first service around 7,500 miles, (don't remember what the MM said the oil life remaining was, but I think it was about 10%) I'm now at 14,000 and MM reads 40%...so, unless my math is wrong, (which is extremely likely!) I'm looking at another ~3,000 miles on this oil, which would be an odometer reading of ~17,000 for my second oil change. (at 0% left)

Please feel free to correct my math, my teachers always did!
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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 07:58 PM
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Keep in mind that a reading of 40% can actually be only 31%.
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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Madd Dog
Keep in mind that a reading of 40% can actually be only 31%.
OHHH! Right!!!

Thanks
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does anyone know what the actual service requirements are and the mileage when they are to be done? I never ever ever get my service at the dealer (unless warranty) and use my mechanic of 10 years. I want to make sure that I don't get screwed in 4 years when I return off lease so would like to see what I need to do. From my experience, much of what the dealer does at these scheduled maintenance visits is visual inspections and wayyyyyyyy overpriced..
I found this but it doesn't show at what mileage to get the service done:

https://www.acura.ca/owners/maintenance-calculator


Live in Canada.

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Sorry to hijack the thread, but I’m looking at the a and b services. Does anyone really ever change the oil without changing the filter (a code)?
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Old Nov 24, 2019 | 07:38 PM
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Sorry to hijack the thread, but I’m looking at the a and b services. Does anyone really ever change the oil without changing the filter (a code)?
I did with 1st gen RDX, plan same for 3rd. I use Mobil1 filter that is rated for 20k miles. It’s not about saving money, save time and perfectly fine as per owners manual.
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Originally Posted by konyo1
does anyone know what the actual service requirements are and the mileage when they are to be done? I never ever ever get my service at the dealer (unless warranty) and use my mechanic of 10 years. I want to make sure that I don't get screwed in 4 years when I return off lease so would like to see what I need to do. From my experience, much of what the dealer does at these scheduled maintenance visits is visual inspections and wayyyyyyyy overpriced..
I found this but it doesn't show at what mileage to get the service done:

https://www.acura.ca/owners/maintenance-calculator


Live in Canada.

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This is a mileage based maintenance schedule for 2005 MDX, one of the last years Acura published mileage based schedules. I believe current RDX is similar. You could learn more in the DIY section of the forum.

Pretty much, differential fluid change(s), ATF change, and air filter, cabin filter changes are what you're probably looking at over a 4 year lease.



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