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Old Feb 11, 2023 | 12:02 AM
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Good luck, I wouldn't be surprised if they ask way over MSRP for one of those! I would imagine the resale/trade in values on EV's are pretty crappy at this point after seeing what happened to Tesla and Ford vehicles and with the tax credit as well. I still kept my Cadillac Lyriq and Chevy Blazer EV SS preorder on still, just in case.
Just curious, Cadillac started sending out order link on 2/9, did you get it? Some said there is a $5k credit for MY23 order that is converted to MY24.
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Old Feb 13, 2023 | 05:33 AM
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Just curious, Cadillac started sending out order link on 2/9, did you get it? Some said there is a $5k credit for MY23 order that is converted to MY24.
Hmm I haven’t gotten the link yet. I ordered pretty late last year around October.
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Old Feb 25, 2023 | 09:46 AM
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Well, I'm enjoying the GT, range/efficiency are better than I expected (My average is 2.6mi/kw), and the chassis is superb, as is the steering feedback, and everything else, really. Ran this with 75% battery on a cold night with the battery not 100% up to conditioned performance temp. Was about 5-10% from it. Still respectable.



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Old Feb 25, 2023 | 10:19 AM
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Wow, 3.3s with rollout and 11.6@118mph is right in line with what C&D got. I just noticed it actually traps higher than the Model 3 Performance, which is seriously impressive.
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Old Feb 25, 2023 | 11:06 AM
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Wow, 3.3s with rollout and 11.6@118mph is right in line with what C&D got. I just noticed it actually traps higher than the Model 3 Performance, which is seriously impressive.
Yes, and this was on 32*f night with the battery "2 dots" off from "max output" mode (about 5-10% of the "gauge"), and only 75% charge. I am sure if I gamed it with 95% charge, optimal battery temps, better pavement temps, it would be a low 11 second car at 120+. What impresses the hell outta me is I am hitting "rated" numbers on a less than ideal day, with 75% charge, non-optimally conditioned battery, etc. Just a real "Well, let's run it, eh?" situation vs the clinical BS required for some cars to perform "as advertised". Oh, and I just matted it. Zero technique. Just held the brake with left foot, gas with right, and as soon as I let off the brake, I floored it. (I did not try to "Brake tq" it, I just nailed it as soon as I let off the brake, and didn't want auto-hold slowing me up if the pads didn't release instantly.)

When you see most races with EV6 GT vs. M3P, the Kia pulls away after 70mph or so. M3P just isn't powerful enough.
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 03:58 AM
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So some updates:
I've put a reservation for a Model X in Ultra Red to take advantage of the tax credit. I'm also asking brokers for a lease deal on the BMW iX, as I've seen can be leased as low as $750 a month for 3 years in case I don't get the Tesla in time. I will probably not be picking up the Lyriq or Chevy Blazer EV and cancelling my reservation as I've heard lots of issues with those vehicles right now.

Overall, still happy with the Jeep and the MDX, but am looking forward to the Tesla Model X vs BMW iX. The Jeep GC 4xe does have weird transitioning between gas and electric mode, which sometimes can be felt, but my lease for that vehicle is over in a about a year.

I've test driven the Model X several times, and really enjoyed the drive and the tech it has. The sound system in the Model X is actually better than the ELS system in the Acura MDX/RDX I've owned.

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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 04:38 AM
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I'm still enjoying the hell out of my EV6 GT. It just flat-out SLAPS! Real world range on a 100% charge is turning out to be 240mi, and now that it's warmed up, I average 3.3-3.6mi/kwh, although my lifetime average is lagging at 2.9mi/kwh, likely due to shenanigans.

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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Unobtanium
They're selling it to me for MSRP. The only question is how bad they plan to assault me over my trade, lol! As to resale, EV's are doing fine. About like gas cars. Everything is dropping, but they're still commanding a premium. Especially as gas prices rise.

The Blazer SS looks neat. I am curious how it does for real world range and actual performance.
Glad to hear you are enjoying your new EV6 GT. The smart money may be on leasing a EV (use the tax credit toward your EV monthly payments), as new EV prices keep falling (regardless of MFG) as demand slows drastically and used values are getting hammered.
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 08:24 AM
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Glad to hear you are enjoying your new EV6 GT. The smart money may be on leasing a EV (use the tax credit toward your EV monthly payments), as new EV prices keep falling (regardless of MFG) as demand slows drastically and used values are getting hammered.
Yeah, I was looking into it. Tesla isn't giving that tax credit on a lease, which makes the lease not much different than financing. This is why I'm cross shopping with BMW iX or Mercedes EQE/EQS SUV to take advantage of the leasing tax credit.
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by mathnerd88
Yeah, I was looking into it. Tesla isn't giving that tax credit on a lease, which makes the lease not much different than financing. This is why I'm cross shopping with BMW iX or Mercedes EQE/EQS SUV to take advantage of the leasing tax credit.
The iX is a statement piece and that's about it. There are much better cars out there for way less money.
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Texasrdx21
Glad to hear you are enjoying your new EV6 GT. The smart money may be on leasing a EV (use the tax credit toward your EV monthly payments), as new EV prices keep falling (regardless of MFG) as demand slows drastically and used values are getting hammered.
Absolutely, except I plan to just keep it until the wheels fall off. I drive way too much for a lease, regardless, which is why I have an EV instead of an AMG or Comp M or something. The gas eats me alive.
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 09:53 AM
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Absolutely, except I plan to just keep it until the wheels fall off.....
I have a hard time believing that, but I'm impressed you're still enjoying it as long as you have. Did you put CC2's on this one, too? I loved them on our CX-5 Sig, but I'm not sure how well they would work on our Model Y.

OP, to get the tax credit on an X, it has to be a base model. Can't you locate one that's already built?
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 09:59 AM
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I have a hard time believing that, but I'm impressed you're still enjoying it as long as you have. Did you put CC2's on this one, too? I loved them on our CX-5 Sig, but I'm not sure how well they would work on our Model Y.

OP, to get the tax credit on an X, it has to be a base model. Can't you locate one that's already built?
I seem to recall seeing folks reporting a drop in mpg with CC2. If so then I would avoid putting it on an EV.
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JustMe...
I have a hard time believing that, but I'm impressed you're still enjoying it as long as you have. Did you put CC2's on this one, too? I loved them on our CX-5 Sig, but I'm not sure how well they would work on our Model Y.

OP, to get the tax credit on an X, it has to be a base model. Can't you locate one that's already built?
I put PSAS4's on it, then tried Hankook ION AS SUV. The PSAS4's are better in every way except noise, and equal in efficiency. I went back to the PSAS4's when a huge chunk got taken out of one of the Hankooks. I have about 15k miles on the car at present. AS stated, values of EV's and all cars in general is dropping, and soon will absolutely plummet, so I bought one that does 100% of everything I want. If it got totaled I'd just buy another one tomorrow (or wait for the '24's because we are so close). I've been looking for something that checks all the boxes, and this is that thing. It's quick, it handles well, it is AWD, it has plenty of room, the built quality is excellent, it has all the features I want, really no desire or reason to trade it, horrible value not withstanding.
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 02:50 PM
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My neighbor has your exact same car. Man is that thing FAST!
Has the car really depreciated that much ? I am pretty sure he paid well over 60K for it and had to wait like 8 months for it to be built.
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverJ
My neighbor has your exact same car. Man is that thing FAST!
Has the car really depreciated that much ? I am pretty sure he paid well over 60K for it and had to wait like 8 months for it to be built.
Well, July 1, I plugged my numbers into VROOM and listed it at 9K miles. They offered me $40k. Before you dog on the Kia, Also consider I plugged in my 2023 Volvo C40 P8 Ultimate ($63K MSRP), and put in the same miles. They offered me...$18K. We are currently:

-Seeing EV tech advance very rapidly.
-Seeing some of the highest interest rates on auto loans this century.
-Seeing rapid inflation while wages are lagging.

A $60K car is a luxury item, I don't care who makes it or what anyone things. YOU.DO.NOT.NEED.ONE. So they are going to take a pretty severe hit. All EV's aside the commuter stuff like a base model 3 or Bolt are $40k+. They're getting destroyed by the above factors. I knew this going in, and am fine with it. It will save me far more money than it costs me, and it's fun as well. Literally the same 0-130 times as a Urus Performante. It's just nuts! Handling is very BMW, as well.
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Old Sep 15, 2023 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by JustMe...
I have a hard time believing that, but I'm impressed you're still enjoying it as long as you have. Did you put CC2's on this one, too? I loved them on our CX-5 Sig, but I'm not sure how well they would work on our Model Y.

OP, to get the tax credit on an X, it has to be a base model. Can't you locate one that's already built?
I haven't been able to locate a Model X base anywhere for pickup. I want to get the Model X as late as possible into 2023 so I can get the 2024 model and/or possible further price drops and more features given Tesla's reputation.
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Old Oct 10, 2023 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mathnerd88
I haven't been able to locate a Model X base anywhere for pickup. I want to get the Model X as late as possible into 2023 so I can get the 2024 model and/or possible further price drops and more features given Tesla's reputation.
If you don't need the capacity, the rumored M3 Plaid looks like a sweet spot for dollar/performance.
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Old Oct 11, 2023 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mathnerd88
I haven't been able to locate a Model X base anywhere for pickup. I want to get the Model X as late as possible into 2023 so I can get the 2024 model and/or possible further price drops and more features given Tesla's reputation.
Plenty of Model X's available. Look at "waiting for Tesla . com" to see the inventory (243 vehicles as of today).

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Old Oct 27, 2023 | 05:09 PM
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Plenty of Model X's available. Look at "waiting for Tesla . com" to see the inventory (243 vehicles as of today).
Yeah, I've been checking. No Base Model X available. You need to have the MSRP <$80k to get the $7500 tax credit.
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Old Oct 27, 2023 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mathnerd88
Yeah, I've been checking. No Base Model X available. You need to have the MSRP <$80k to get the $7500 tax credit.
Just looked. A plethora of base model X’s for under $80k.
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Old Oct 27, 2023 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Texasrdx21
Just looked. A plethora of base model X’s for under $80k.
I just looked. Only 1 available in GA in all of USA and that just popped up. Where are you seeing a plethora?

Remember, it has to be MSRP <$80k and has to be brand new, not demos and not discounted ones from those over $80k.

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Old Nov 1, 2023 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mathnerd88
I just looked. Only 1 available in GA in all of USA and that just popped up. Where are you seeing a plethora?

Remember, it has to be MSRP <$80k and has to be brand new, not demos and not discounted ones from those over $80k.
https://waitingfortesla.com/inventory/us/mx. Fluid demo and new inventory on Tesla dealer lots.
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Old Nov 1, 2023 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Texasrdx21
https://waitingfortesla.com/inventory/us/mx. Fluid demo and new inventory on Tesla dealer lots.
Those are demos.
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Old Nov 2, 2023 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by JustMe...
Those are demos.
Demo's still qualify for the EV federal rebate. Inventory changes constantly on that site, with a mixture of demo's and new units (especially at the end of their QTR).
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Originally Posted by Texasrdx21
Demo's still qualify for the EV federal rebate. Inventory changes constantly on that site, with a mixture of demo's and new units (especially at the end of their QTR).
It's based on original MSRP, so those do not qualify.
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Originally Posted by JustMe...
It's based on original MSRP, so those do not qualify.
Correct. Base model X with no options just slides in under the $80k. Some of the demo prices will be similar to a the price with the federal rebate. The second month of Q4 is known for a lot of inventory to hit the dealers. Believe the federal rebate in 2024 comes off the purchase price, rather than at the time you do your taxes (but you still need to meet all the income requirements).

The best deal is a Model Y Performance, similar room and you can get it now.
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Hopping on this thread, instead of starting another. This is goodbye for me, I trade in my 2019 (bought July 2018) RDX Advance SH-AWD on Saturday. It was a sweet ride and fun to drive (even with the headache TSBs), but has grown long in the tooth as I waited for Acura to give it a proper update beyond the cosmetic touchups. Well wishes to you all, it has been a fun ride!
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Hopping on this thread, instead of starting another. This is goodbye for me, I trade in my 2019 (bought July 2018) RDX Advance SH-AWD on Saturday. It was a sweet ride and fun to drive (even with the headache TSBs), but has grown long in the tooth as I waited for Acura to give it a proper update beyond the cosmetic touchups. Well wishes to you all, it has been a fun ride!
what did you get?
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Originally Posted by anoop
what did you get?
Went with an Audi A6 Allroad. Surprisingly, it has the same cu-ft of storage in the back which was hard to find in any other similar vehicle, they were all less, and I use every inch when I travel.
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Old May 14, 2025 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by markm929
Hopping on this thread, instead of starting another. This is goodbye for me, I trade in my 2019 (bought July 2018) RDX Advance SH-AWD on Saturday. It was a sweet ride and fun to drive (even with the headache TSBs), but has grown long in the tooth as I waited for Acura to give it a proper update beyond the cosmetic touchups. Well wishes to you all, it has been a fun ride!
I did the same. Traded in my 2019 RDX Tech a few weeks ago. I liked it, but too many minor issues and rattles. I looked at several options, but after test driving the new 2025 RDX Aspec Advance, I was sold.
I am surprised (after 2 weeks) how much better the 2025 is from the 2019. Just a much better, refined, quality product. And so much quieter.
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A local dealer by me is offering 0.99% financing on either a TLX or RDX. That's almost a free loan, LOL!
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Originally Posted by markm929
Went with an Audi A6 Allroad. Surprisingly, it has the same cu-ft of storage in the back which was hard to find in any other similar vehicle, they were all less, and I use every inch when I travel.
Nicely done. You have good taste!
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Old May 15, 2025 | 08:15 AM
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A local dealer by me is offering 0.99% financing on either a TLX or RDX. That's almost a free loan, LOL!
Free loan - but on an expensive 7 year old model (RDX) costing north of $50k+. Taxes and fees is $4k in most states or more. Smart money is on a gently used one 1-3 years old, that already took the big depreciation hit. The auto market is soft after the free money of the pandemic era. I'll keep driving my 2021 till the wheels fall off.

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Originally Posted by Texasrdx21
Free loan - but on an expensive 7 year old model (RDX) costing north of $50k+. Taxes and fees is $4k in most states or more. Smart money is on a gently used one 1-3 years old, that already took the big depreciation hit. The auto market is soft after the free money of the pandemic era. I'll keep driving my 2021 till the wheels fall off.
Acura is doing what it needs to do to move unpopular cars.

Speaking of unpopular, the redesigned X3 (G45) took a nearly 32% drop in Q1 2025 compared to the same timeframe last year! I expect incentives to get much better and perhaps an earlier than normal LCI to stop the bleeding!
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Acura is doing what it needs to do to move unpopular cars.

Speaking of unpopular, the redesigned X3 (G45) took a nearly 32% drop in Q1 2025 compared to the same timeframe last year! I expect incentives to get much better and perhaps an earlier than normal LCI to stop the bleeding!
Too expensive for what it is - the X3. Lots of mfg's will be in negative sales decline compared to the years 2022 to early 2024. Markup will not be rebates and haggling for the best deal.

With all mag's having big recalls - I'll stick with my super reliable 2021 RDX. For me, new tires and brakes are a fraction of the cost of the taxes on a new vehicle. However, most want a new vehicle every few years, and there will be a ton of deals to be made.
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Originally Posted by Texasrdx21
Too expensive for what it is - the X3. Lots of mfg's will be in negative sales decline compared to the years 2022 to early 2024. Markup will not be rebates and haggling for the best deal.

With all mag's having big recalls - I'll stick with my super reliable 2021 RDX. For me, new tires and brakes are a fraction of the cost of the taxes on a new vehicle. However, most want a new vehicle every few years, and there will be a ton of deals to be made.
IMO your RDX is the best one yet. I am a much bigger fan of the pre-lift exterior and your 2021 being the final year of the new model pre-lift is likely the most reliable. Yes it isn't the fastest or the sharpest...etc but IMO it STILL looks FAR better than any of the modern compact class and the SH-AWD is elite. I say drive it till the wheels fall off which is likely another 10+ years.
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Too expensive for what it is - the X3. Lots of mfg's will be in negative sales decline compared to the years 2022 to early 2024. Markup will not be rebates and haggling for the best deal.

With all mag's having big recalls - I'll stick with my super reliable 2021 RDX. For me, new tires and brakes are a fraction of the cost of the taxes on a new vehicle. However, most want a new vehicle every few years, and there will be a ton of deals to be made.
Did you get an extended warranty?

Yes, the older car will definitely be more cost effective (depreciation, sales tax, annual VLF/taxes), but if something malfunctions with electronics and there's no extended warranty then it becomes a problem. That's why I upgraded from my 2019. My 2023 has a few better things like wireless CarPlay, slightly quieter cabin, cleaner display, better implementation of driving aids.
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Originally Posted by anoop
Did you get an extended warranty?

Yes, the older car will definitely be more cost effective (depreciation, sales tax, annual VLF/taxes), but if something malfunctions with electronics and there's no extended warranty then it becomes a problem. That's why I upgraded from my 2019. My 2023 has a few better things like wireless CarPlay, slightly quieter cabin, cleaner display, better implementation of driving aids.
It's been 7 years since the new model came out right? How often are we really seeing these major issues?

FWIW I inquired about extended warranty from my finance friend who sells extended warranties on cars, and he told me that on a 2019 RDX it would be about $1800 for 5 years 100k, an F-Pace was 8k for the same coverage. I am inclined to believe that major issues are extremely rare on these from that alone.
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It's been 7 years since the new model came out right? How often are we really seeing these major issues?

FWIW I inquired about extended warranty from my finance friend who sells extended warranties on cars, and he told me that on a 2019 RDX it would be about $1800 for 5 years 100k, an F-Pace was 8k for the same coverage. I am inclined to believe that major issues are extremely rare on these from that alone.
They are rare, but you're rolling the dice. So even if it's 1 in 10 or 1 in 20, you have to bet that it won't be your car. Electronics has a bath tub curve for failure, so things will get worse, just a matter of when. Many folks that buy these used may just live with glitchy electronics. There were many intermittent glitches with my 2019 like parking sensors getting triggered for no reason and crackling speakers that the dealer was never able to fix.

Because of the pandemic and crazy prices, I owned my car for a few months with the extended warranty and made a claim because of a leaking shock. IIRC, it would have cost $600+ out of pocket for that but was covered by the extended warranty. I was reimbursed for the unused part of the warranty when I traded the car in.
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