Rmsanger

I have 7 dedicated Hyundai dealers in my metro areas with 3 combo Genesis/Hyundai dealers. Of the 3 combo dealers 2 are in the process of building standalone genesis dealerships that should be done by summer of 2021. Another benefit of buying a Genesis is the complimentary service valet in which they come to you pickup your vehicle and leave a loaner with you while it's serviced. You never even go to the dealership and rub shoulders with plebs.

fiatlux

The service valet is only good for 3 years, right?

Madd Dog

Only proles keep cars for more than three years.

I generally operate on 10.

catalytic_ca

Lol... Sometimes the guys with lots of cash dress down. Can't always go by first impressions.

Was thinking about getting the Sorrento before I got the RDX. Kia dealer offered me what worked out to be around $1,000 off MSRP for a demonstrator model like he was doing me a favour. Religiously avoided giving me the price of the car... always answered with how many dollars it would be bi-weekly, as if that ploy would work. Such juvenille sales tactics

catalytic_ca

While the X3 M40i is technically not an M car, it is ridiculously fast with neck snapping acceleration and immediate responses to inputs. In a different league compared to the RDX, and I would bet even with the 3.0 T, the RDX would not compare to the immediate responses of the Bimmer.

There is simply too much lag / hesitation with Honda/Acura products (we have an Odyssey too) to compete with the likes of an X3 M40i. I would be surprised if an RDX Type S exorcised the hesitation / lag issues, especially after braking, let alone bridge the power defecit compared to the M40i engine (rated at 382 hp, but likely stronger than that).

Madd Dog

The Bimmer straight six is a honey. Honda, an engine company, just does not make a 3.0 liter six that is that good other than the NSX.

russianDude

Acura type S MDX/RDX has to be offered for less money than similarly spec/equipped BMW.
Otherwise no one will buy it. I would not.

DJA123

I have to agree.

As I'm becoming more familiar with the RDX, this is rising to the top of the few things I don't like. During highway lane shift situations, I notice it everytime now. It's a little unnerving, and I consider it before merging or swapping lanes. I'd rather not have that concern. But, I think many would agree that it's not solely the engine to blame for the hesitation.

This will definitely be something I more carefully investigate during future test drives, especially if looking at a straight ICE vehicle.

Wander

An electric motor or two could fill in that torque gap quite nicely, IMO. Seems like a missed opportunity to be ahead of the curve, instead of watching the taillights of the competition disappear from view around the curve.

But like everything else in this delightful republic of ours, electrification of automobiles has become politicized. And Acura plays to the American consumer, so they dare not offend anyone's delicate sensibilities.

fiatlux

I'm pretty sure those customers aren't exactly Acura's target clientele. How many of them do you think would ever buy an import (ignoring for a second that Acura is American and the cars are wholly designed and built in the US, for better or for worse).

Madd Dog

Back when I was driving lower horsepower sticks, I would have to downshift and get in the right rev range when I knew I would need power.

I would not expect to have to do that with this car, but a couple of downshifts on the paddle in advance of the move oughta do it. Lane shifts with power are foreseeable events.

supafamous

I'd be pretty keen for a variant of the MDX's hybrid system to be put into the RDX. As the RDX is the biggest volume seller it's the place to sell a hybrid.

As I drive mostly in the city my fuel economy is pretty trash and an electric motor not only addresses that deficit but does a while bunch of nice performance minded things - things that are inline with the brand message Acura is trying for.

DJA123

Sure, this is usually true. But we all drive, and we know there are times when a hole opens quickly, or we suddenly realize we need to be in a different spot. Or, we just don't want to have to compensate for an inherent shortcoming. The car should be a partner and do our bidding.

I also have a lower horsepower car with a stick, and I'm fully involved with power delivery in that car. When driving a fairly powerful modern automatic, I want the car to do what I would do, only faster and without me doing part of the work.

It's not a terrible condition, but I just don't like it. Beyond that, it's potentially a safety issue if I misjudge a gap and the car doesn’t bail me out because it can't react fast enough.

Apologies for taking this off-topic.

JB in AZ

A few weeks ago I needed to make a quick lane change to avoid a vehicle that was abruptly stopping in front of me without warning. I could have braked, but the next lane was open. I was on a slight uphill grade, going about 40 mph, in a 45 mph zone, in Comfort mode. I punched it, got a very quick chirp from the front tires (FWD) and had no hesitation what so ever. My wife wasn't pleased, but ...uhm...I was quite surprised at my end velocity, on a city street! I have no idea what gear it went to, but man, did this thing fly!

I totally understand the need for power, and even more specifically, hesitation-less power. And I understand that the hesitation most often mentioned here is at a lower speed. Having owned many Hybrid vehicles, I agree that the instant torque of the electric motor(s) would go a long way to end the hesitation some owners experience, but at what initial cost? It may be a driving style, I don't know... but I am rarely in as much of a need for instant acceleration as I was this day, and the RDX did not fail me.

fiatlux

Looks like you were correct .

For clarification, you mentioned that they wanted to put in the 2.0T but didn't...would you be able to share why they didn't? Was it a technical reason, or a product/marketing decision?

Ludepower

video mentions its a 3.5 liter with 10 speed. This looks like a plus size RDX. Very clean looking.

Acura is nailing the design language lately.

sonyfever

I am a bit disappointed there is no info about the hybrid powertrain. I haven't read the press release but sounds to me J35+10AT is the "base" engine, could tech+ package have mild-hybrid thrown in?