What does a v6 gain from SRI??

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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 06:30 PM
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What does a v6 gain from SRI??

ive searched this site, searched youtube for any honda engine with a 3.5 v6 running only a SRI and i cant find much.
the only thing i could find was a 3.2 tl with takeda sri only and it had 229 whp and 200wht, anyone know what stock whp for the 3.2 tl is? it would give me an idea..
anyone know if what i could gain from a SRI on my tsx v6? i ran an aem cai on my 08 tl and could def feel gains especially running royal purple with it and TB coolant bypass, that thing hauled a$$ haha
i know i know cai is better but for one there is none for this car and two, i really am done with taking my bumper off and ripping stock intake out, ive done it enough times..
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i said i wouldnt mod this car...but the modding bug bit me haha, i want to hear that VTEC!!
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 06:45 PM
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I'm no expert but if you get a SRI, it will not have an affect that you will FEEL, but instead HEAR. Most of us with CAI's or SRI's have it because of the sound. It has been proven that the gains are VERY minimal. I personally got it because it sounds sweet!

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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 07:58 PM
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u should PM the guy with the v6 tsx and K&N typhoon sri!
gain will be small with both, mostly sounds
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 08:03 PM
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answer to the title....HOT AIR.
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 08:25 PM
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answer to the title....HOT AIR.

This

+ the chance to hear your engine go BWAAAAAAAH
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 08:33 PM
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to expand, colder or denser air has more mass, which when fed to your engine; produces moar power.


Now the Short Ram Intake does provide the engine with cooler air while MOVING, at idle you'll be sucking up all the hot air from the engine.
The 2 things that affect the TL's(can apply to 2nd gen TSX) performance is weight and heat soak.

Remove weight and make sure the engine is letting the hot air out efficiently

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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 08:42 PM
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I read your OP, and the stock automatic 3.2 TL puts down 210hp to the front wheels.
I think your engine is closer to the TL-S, which the Automatic put down 230 to the front wheels.

you said you were done with modding, but look at you!
with that being said, you can take off the front bumper and install the CAI.
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
answer to the title....HOT AIR.
lmfao i like this reply
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 08:59 PM
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ok ok ok i read all the replies and thanks for the quickness. so basically from the replies it's "an sri for my engine as for hp+ sake is a waste of money". however, if what justintimberspace said a stock 3.2 tl puts down 210whp and this youtube 3.2tl i saw put down 229 with sri only, shouldnt a 3.5 v6 be similar?
just want some solid evidence of gains.
i know about heat soak, etc..ive been in this game for a while.
just dont want to spend a chunk of cash on a short tube with a filter on the end unless its gonna free up at least 10hp thats all...
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ed_423
u should PM the guy with the v6 tsx and K&N typhoon sri!
gain will be small with both, mostly sounds
good idea! i did reply to his old post like ??? and he never replied, i never see him on here either so
will pm him though
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by russel082581
o however, if what justintimberspace said a stock 3.2 tl puts down 210whp and this youtube 3.2tl i saw put down 229 with sri only, shouldnt a 3.5 v6 be similar?

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I read your OP, and the stock automatic 3.2 TL puts down 210hp to the front wheels.
I think your engine is closer to the TL-S, which the Automatic put down 230 to the front wheels.
your engine is the 3.5 variant.
the TL-S has the 3.5l engine.

Assuming that you guys have IDENTICAL auto trans drivetrain loss; that will put you at 230WHP.

The one thing great about the manual transmission is that the drive train loss is LESS.
I am putting down 230WHP STOCK! If the TL on youtube is the 6MT variant then 230WHP is true.
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by russel082581
ok ok ok i read all the replies and thanks for the quickness. so basically from the replies it's "an sri for my engine as for hp+ sake is a waste of money". however, if what justintimberspace said a stock 3.2 tl puts down 210whp and this youtube 3.2tl i saw put down 229 with sri only, shouldnt a 3.5 v6 be similar?
just want some solid evidence of gains.
i know about heat soak, etc..ive been in this game for a while.
just dont want to spend a chunk of cash on a short tube with a filter on the end unless its gonna free up at least 10hp thats all...
I've never heard of either a SRI or CAI freeing up at least 10 HP. I'm telling you, you get a CAI or SRI for a nicer and more aggressive sound ONLY. The HP gains are so little that you will not notice the difference (expect in MPG because you'll tend to step on the gas a little harder to hear that sweet sound ).
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 08:00 AM
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I have the Takeda SRI on my V6. Performance wise, nothing(that I can tell). Strickly sound. Have had cold air on cars in the past. Still nothing(that I could tell), again mainly sound. So this time I went with the SRI strickly to hear sound more. That is all.
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by renedcruz
I've never heard of either a SRI or CAI freeing up at least 10 HP. I'm telling you, you get a CAI or SRI for a nicer and more aggressive sound ONLY. The HP gains are so little that you will not notice the difference (expect in MPG because you'll tend to step on the gas a little harder to hear that sweet sound ).
truuuuuuuuueee very true i just remembered something vital. back when i had just installed the aem cai on my 08 tl i raced a buddy of mine who also had an 08 base tl and i remember i barely pulled on him, it could have been that my tires were newer, i ran synthetic and he didnt, he weighs a little more than me..who knows.
so i guess if i really start to miss that vtec sound ill remove the resonator.
thanks for all the replies and saving me a couple hundred
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 12:50 AM
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I'm new to this - Which mod do you think makes a bigger difference to the sound, removing the resonator or adding an SRI (or does everyone do both)? Also, what are the best SRIs to look into?

Thanks
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 09:43 AM
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I have the Takeda, I believe there is a K & N SRI as well. I think the SRI gives you the best "sound". My two cents.
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mghobrial
I'm new to this - Which mod do you think makes a bigger difference to the sound, removing the resonator or adding an SRI (or does everyone do both)? Also, what are the best SRIs to look into?

Thanks
use the search function first.
when you remove the resonator which is a part of the stock intake system the sound is a little louder during vtec.
sri is much louder.
in order to install a sri you have to remove the piece of stock intake before the resonator, thus you can leave the resonator on with a sri but it will just be attached but not used, make sense?
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by saucy
I have the Takeda SRI on my V6. Performance wise, nothing(that I can tell). Strickly sound. Have had cold air on cars in the past. Still nothing(that I could tell), again mainly sound. So this time I went with the SRI strickly to hear sound more. That is all.


What are you waiting for... post some pics already.
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 07:09 AM
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What are you waiting for... post some pics already.

Ahhh yes, well you see...what had happened was....I took some pics, and we are having out kitchen redone...so my house is a wreck. Camera is in the wreck somewhere. I have another camera, I will hunt it, snap pics and post.

And the custom mod is done, installed, looks amazing will get that posted up too. Thanks 2888Si for helping with this custom mod. More details to follow, soon.
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 03:20 PM
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Ahhh yes, well you see...what had happened was....I took some pics, and we are having out kitchen redone...so my house is a wreck. Camera is in the wreck somewhere. I have another camera, I will hunt it, snap pics and post.

And the custom mod is done, installed, looks amazing will get that posted up too. Thanks 2888Si for helping with this custom mod. More details to follow, soon.
did u just say custom mod?? dont hold out on us man!
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by saucy
I have the Takeda, I believe there is a K & N SRI as well. I think the SRI gives you the best "sound". My two cents.
Yup, completely agree. Every time I step on the gas hard, I hear that thing screaming in my face. It's great!
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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 08:10 AM
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did u just say custom mod?? dont hold out on us man!
I did say custom. "The Great Reveal" will be this weekend, supposed to have nice weather. Hope to get her washed up and snap all the pics Ive been promising.
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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by renedcruz
I've never heard of either a SRI or CAI freeing up at least 10 HP. I'm telling you, you get a CAI or SRI for a nicer and more aggressive sound ONLY. The HP gains are so little that you will not notice the difference (expect in MPG because you'll tend to step on the gas a little harder to hear that sweet sound ).
I put an Injen SR on my 06 Si and gained 5 HP. I have always owned a SR an nothing else. I live in Hotlanta and heatsoak is not that bad as people expect. The SR location on the TSX is a perfect location and not by anything hot. Once you start moving the soak is gone. Doesn't matter anyway unless you are racing.
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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 2888Si
I put an Injen SR on my 06 Si and gained 5 HP. I have always owned a SR an nothing else. I live in Hotlanta and heatsoak is not that bad as people expect. The SR location on the TSX is a perfect location and not by anything hot. Once you start moving the soak is gone. Doesn't matter anyway unless you are racing.
I know. I have a SRI in my TSX and I love. But I just don't see how 5hp makes a difference, that any human can tell that is. I probably got a few horses from my SRI but I honestly cannot tell the difference. The only way to tell is if you get your car dynoed. But who gets there car dynoed after putting a SRI or CAI? Just so you can tell your friends "hey, I have 206hp now instead of 201hp before".

As I said before, most of us get an intake because it sounds sweet.
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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 04:44 PM
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You wont be able to tell unless you add other mods. It sucks now that Honda no longer makes a head that is not integrated with the exhaust. So no header any more. If you could do a header and exhaust it will open up the engine more.
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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by renedcruz
I know. I have a SRI in my TSX and I love. But I just don't see how 5hp makes a difference, that any human can tell that is. I probably got a few horses from my SRI but I honestly cannot tell the difference. The only way to tell is if you get your car dynoed. But who gets there car dynoed after putting a SRI or CAI? Just so you can tell your friends "hey, I have 206hp now instead of 201hp before".

As I said before, most of us get an intake because it sounds sweet.

yes, it makes 5 hp on paper, but dont forget about the 10 hp of placebo effect!
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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 2888Si
You wont be able to tell unless you add other mods. It sucks now that Honda no longer makes a head that is not integrated with the exhaust. So no header any more. If you could do a header and exhaust it will open up the engine more.
I hear ya. Intakes are really useful, when you have other mods with it. For example, I had the SRI alone and I didn't notice any performance gains. But when I added my exhaust, I did feel a difference. And when I add my CT header, I know it's going to make a huge difference with all three of those things combined.
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Originally Posted by ed_423
yes, it makes 5 hp on paper, but dont forget about the 10 hp of placebo effect!
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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 08:44 PM
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so if i remove the resonator not only is it free but the sound is sweet and i gain maybe 2hp? and if i run royal purple ill gain another 2-3hp so theres my sri right there, +5hp! hahaha
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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 2888Si
You wont be able to tell unless you add other mods. It sucks now that Honda no longer makes a head that is not integrated with the exhaust. So no header any more. If you could do a header and exhaust it will open up the engine more.
I've been saying this since the 6 cylinder came out....I bet you guys could implement most of our mods.

Pre-cat deletes, Jpipe, and catback exhaust.

a good 30-60hp.

AND then, J&R is about to release a piggy back ECU for the 3rd gen TL.
with this available,traditional "hot rod" mods could be done.

Cams, internals, turbos, superchargers, nitrous, ect.
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 10:19 AM
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Here are some pics of the Takeda SRI. Custom mod pics to follow in a new thread.


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^was that heat shield included? looks kinda...small?
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 11:08 AM
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Yeah, it was included. I thought the same thing, but wont know until shiz hits the fan I guess. As for now....all good.
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The SRI looks good saucy.
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