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Old 12-18-2015, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ssjoeboe9
What I really don't like is the fact that if we want ANY other input to feed to the flashpro unit/oem ECU, Hondata only gives 1 option (ELD pin).

Sooo we can't have Wideband and traction control?? It's stupid!
Isn't the wide band only there for data logging while tuning? After you're tuned, you no longer need it hooked up the th ELD.
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Originally Posted by iselfdevi
Isn't the wide band only there for data logging while tuning? After you're tuned, you no longer need it hooked up the th ELD.
Yeah you are right, but if you added traction control and you are datalogging you wouldn't want to see your secondary wideband also just to keep an eye out?

I know I would.
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Also.. I need to get myself another pin, cause I stripped the ELD pin to use for my wideband haha
Old 12-18-2015, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ssjoeboe9
Yeah you are right, but if you added traction control and you are datalogging you wouldn't want to see your secondary wideband also just to keep an eye out?

I know I would.
You could always hook up a two way switch to go back and forth from either one. It does suck that you cant have both at the same time.

I wonder if you can just go by the stock primary o2 senser input. For example, replace your stock primary o2 sensor with your aftermarket wideband and wire it up to the primary o2 pin on the ecu. Then you can hook up the traction control to your ELD input. Question is, can you datalog the primary o2 signal this way. If you can, then you can use both at the same time with this method.
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Doesn't really matter because your primary sensor is already a wideband sensor. The only reason you get another secondary wideband is to have a fail safe, if your primary craps out on you, you can recognize it early before you do damage.

But if you wire up traction control to ELD pin then you are foregoing your fail safe, and trusting that your primary will be alright..

In the end, hondata should give us another 5 pins so we can use them for whatever we want.
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Hey... what's the hold up with uploading a video to show the "Overrun Throttle" disabled?
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Originally Posted by ssjoeboe9
Hey... what's the hold up with uploading a video to show the "Overrun Throttle" disabled?
Almost on my last calibration with vit up to 3.5 but every time he sends me a new one I fix that and change the values to 40 and it's like butter

Maybe I'll make one when I'm done and all the snow goes away because I have footage of my rpms before the flashpro
Old 02-23-2016, 09:07 AM
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Hey guys! so update: I got a flashpro and am going to flash the car next time Im at the storage location. I was wondering if you guys had any recommendations for changing the hontata base tune. My car is stock so I was just gonna base tune and call it a day. Should I do this valves to 40 thing you guys are doing? any other stubble cheats to make my car run better? Thanks guys, thanks for the patience I know this is a newb post
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I wouldn't mess w/ the base tune. After you get more parts like your PCD and exhaust you can have VIT fine tune it for you. is what I did
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... Soon I will be doing a rrc swap....
Did this ever eventuate?

From my nooby low level research, the RRC is not a bolt on to the K24Z3 without some/lots of portmatching or other head/manifold work?
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I am getting rid of my Winbook. anyone want it for cheap?
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What model winbook? I contacted Vit today! Starting the process soon!

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Old 03-05-2016, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by swany0095
What model winbook? I contacted Vit today! Starting the process soon!
It's in the thread but it's a small tablet sized windows pc with touch screen that's perfect to use just for uploading and flashing tunes
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Originally Posted by swany0095
What model winbook? I contacted Vit today! Starting the process soon!
your gonna enjoy that difference with his tunes, amazing work on his end
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O I'm sure. I'm very excited!
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Hey quick question for you hondata people, i just picked up a ktuner for my 09 tsx and it only had one base map. what did you guys get for preloaded base maps? im stock right now so its really doesnt matter, but i have aspirations of doing headers soonish or maybe a CAI/ ice box.
Old 03-16-2016, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam Ehrenborg
Hey quick question for you hondata people, i just picked up a ktuner for my 09 tsx and it only had one base map. what did you guys get for preloaded base maps? im stock right now so its really doesnt matter, but i have aspirations of doing headers soonish or maybe a CAI/ ice box.
Shoot me an email (Info@KTuner) with your ECU part number and I'll send you one over.
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Originally Posted by Cu2Suspect
My question is....how is the stock equivalent tune that Hondata made feel on the 6 speed manual... Not up to dyno tuning since I don't have many performance mods but would like to have the increased drive ability and eliminate rev hang
I just flashed my car on saturday with the "stock equivalent high speed/ density" cal, something like that I cant remember exactly what its called theres only two options if I remember besides the injector cals. I unchecked the "over run throttle opening enabled" box and changed "over run fuel cut delay" boxes to 40. Thats all I changed.
The car runs very well. The only thing I really noticed was the rev hang was definitely improved. The shifts are more like I want them to be, clean and quick. At a red light I mashed the throttle and did a redline in first, chirped second and banged into third and I have to say, A LOT better than how the car used to perform. Before the cal, it was so hard to get second gear above 5500 rpm and that higher redline is great.
The only thing that is concerning me is in second or 3rd around 1k to 2k rpm the engine dosnt seem to be getting fuel or air or something. It kind of cuts out and a few times it got very jerky and It only happens under load and dosnt happen every time. Obviously this is a product of me being to lazy to downshift but it never happed on the stock ecu. NOW, it does seem to be getting better and hasnt happened in the last few trips. It could be my ecu is still "learning" the cal or something? Could be a hole in the fuel map? If that's a thing?
Another thing that I was wondering about is the vtec window on this cal says 5k to 5k.........confused here, I left it the same but was wondering if I could just lower that to like 4k and raise it to redline? Something im missing here I think.
Old 03-28-2016, 02:02 PM
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There is a VTEC open/close. I believe when the value is set to the same then it opens and stays open until redline.

And open I mean VTEC engaged.
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Old 04-03-2016, 07:22 PM
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ssjoe will post your final calibration I need to see what your high cam tables look like, I've been doing some tuning my self and want to see the difference in our cam tables I'm thinking cam timing played a role in melted my pistons
Old 04-04-2016, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by UTAH TSX
ssjoe will post your final calibration I need to see what your high cam tables look like, I've been doing some tuning my self and want to see the difference in our cam tables I'm thinking cam timing played a role in melted my pistons
Actually, I have uploaded it to the Hondata Vault. Do you know how to use it?

Basically just search for TSX, and there are a handful of calibrations. You will see my name. I believe my calibration is pretty modest... He knew I wanted to keep it on the safe end ( I hear that 1G TSX, and Si are getting close to 350whp on virtually the same setup I have...not sure the validity though)

You think VIT did not dial back the cam timing enough?? Or maybe overestimated the efficiency of your spray?
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I just cant seem to get the knock at 4-5000 RPM under control even at only 12 PSI tried taking timing out nothing tried giving it more fuel nothing ?

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Originally Posted by UTAH TSX
I just cant seem to get the knock at 4-5000 RPM under control even at only 12 PSI tried taking timing out nothing tried giving it more fuel nothing ?
What happens if you don't engage VTEC at all?

Your Valve to piston clearance is ok? I know you changed them.. Im sure you have checked all of this already. You're the master tech. I know enough about tuning to be dangerous, but not enough to diagnose/fix problems :/
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Hey Utah, did you figure out the cam phasing issue? How did my calibration compare to yours! Post some updates!
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Originally Posted by ssjoeboe9
Hey Utah, did you figure out the cam phasing issue? How did my calibration compare to yours! Post some updates!
I couldn't get logged in to find it I tried for two hours to change my password ETC. got so pissed off I don't think I will ever go back to the Hondata forums they never seem to help me anyway.
Cam timing made zero difference went from 0-45 Deg.
it seems to be the knock sensitivity no matter what I do to fuel or timing it makes no difference at 3800-4500 RPM, still working on it
Old 04-12-2016, 06:34 AM
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ok, pm me your email, and Ill just email the calibration to you.

(Although, you don't have to be logged in to search for uploaded calibrations. See Below)


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Where yours says search to the right of tsx mine says update ?? could never get past that?
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Originally Posted by UTAH TSX
Where yours says search to the right of tsx mine says update ?? could never get past that?
Interesting.. I just downloaded Hondata on my work computer, never logged in, and had no problems. I would say just download straight from hondata website and try again.

OR just send me your email and I will forward the cal to you
Old 05-22-2016, 10:21 AM
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Hi guys i have question i just get my hondata flashpro 3 days ago and i used de basemap for now and i only change the rpm and the vtec to open 4800 but my question is i gonna get rdx injectors today and i wnt to know how to go right with this,what i have to do for make wwork right? I see where i can change the size od the injectors but i dont know if that all, its any other modifications i can do? Thanks
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Originally Posted by icymichael
Hi guys i have question i just get my hondata flashpro 3 days ago and i used de basemap for now and i only change the rpm and the vtec to open 4800 but my question is i gonna get rdx injectors today and i wnt to know how to go right with this,what i have to do for make wwork right? I see where i can change the size od the injectors but i dont know if that all, its any other modifications i can do? Thanks
That is all you have to do but to really get it wright it needs to be tuned or at least WOT fuel adjusted you can do that yourself it's not to hard
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Originally Posted by UTAH TSX
That is all you have to do but to really get it wright it needs to be tuned or at least WOT fuel adjusted you can do that yourself it's not to hard
Ok another question! And sorry what i gain if i installed the injectors? Thit i really need for gain extra power or i can make better the stock one i have? I mean i onlu have the skunk2 header and soon the intake manifold from tsx 08
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Originally Posted by UTAH TSX
That is all you have to do but to really get it wright it needs to be tuned or at least WOT fuel adjusted you can do that yourself it's not to hard
here my datalog
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Old 05-23-2016, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by icymichael
here my datalog
Your duty cycle is fine bigger injectors will do nothing for you
Try dimfings final tune, it is on post 661 on this thread, and post a datalog
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Old 05-23-2016, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by UTAH TSX
Your duty cycle is fine bigger injectors will do nothing for you
Try dimfings final tune, it is on post 661 on this thread, and post a datalog
lol I told you the same Michael, no need for bigger injectors
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Also, Utah.. did you ever install sensors to measure individual cylinder temps?

I was also diggin around in FP manager and they have an option to adjust individual cylinder fuel trim if you have lamda probes setup. Pretty cool
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Originally Posted by ssjoeboe9
lol I told you the same Michael, no need for bigger injectors
Yea i just wnt to know how to make work better the stock one you guys are amazing
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Originally Posted by ssjoeboe9
Also, Utah.. did you ever install sensors to measure individual cylinder temps?

I was also diggin around in FP manager and they have an option to adjust individual cylinder fuel trim if you have lamda probes setup. Pretty cool
No just a single one, we can't do individual port on our head because of the water-jacket in the built in manifold design
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Originally Posted by UTAH TSX
Your duty cycle is fine bigger injectors will do nothing for you
Try dimfings final tune, it is on post 661 on this thread, and post a datalog
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your duty cycle is only at 86% at 7800 RPM you're fine..

But I don't suggest you redline your car to 120mph like that.

You had some knock in cyclinders 2 &3. Dime Fengs calibration should work well for you though.
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Originally Posted by ssjoeboe9
your duty cycle is only at 86% at 7800 RPM you're fine..

But I don't suggest you redline your car to 120mph like that.

You had some knock in cyclinders 2 &3. Dime Fengs calibration should work well for you though.
i change the redline to 7800 but driving normaly i do not touch 7800 i only go 7500, how can i fix the knock in the cyclinders 2 & 3


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